Woman shot in head on zoom call, by toddler

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Florida 911 calls released after woman killed by toddler while on Zoom call: 'There's blood everywhere'

911 calls released by police reveal the harrowing moments after a toddler shot her 21-year-old mother in the head during a Zoom call with her horrified colleagues.
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911 calls released by police reveal the harrowing moments after a toddler shot her 21-year-old mother in the head during a Zoom call with her horrified colleagues.

Shamaya Lynn died Wednesday from the fatal gunshot to the head after her toddler found a loaded handgun left unsecured in the family’s Altamonte Springs, Florida apartment and shot her, police said.

A participant of the Zoom call dialed 911, telling a dispatcher she had seen a toddler in the background and heard a noise before Lynn fell backward and never returned to the call.

"One of the girls just passed out. She’s bleeding. She has her camera on," a coworker tells the dispatcher while trying to get more information from other colleagues.

"She just fell back and her nose was bleeding … I don't know if something hit, she hit the desk, I don't know. All I heard -- we heard a loud kaboom, and she then leaned back and we just saw blood from her face," Lynn’s colleague says. "The baby's back there crying, she's not answering or anything. We're calling her name, she's not talking or responding."

In another 911 call, the woman’s boyfriend – who was not identified – can be heard pleading with the dispatcher to send help.

"I literally just got home. And I come in the room and my girlfriend, she was working on the computer, she's just laid back. There's blood everywhere!" he says. "Come on, come on, come on! Come on now, hurry, please hurry! Please! I don't know what happened, I just went in the house. I just came through the door!"

Responding paramedics attempted to render aid but she was declared dead, police said.

No charges have been filed and the investigation is ongoing. The Altamonte Springs Police Department says it is working closely with the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office.

Police are urging gun owners to exercise basic safety precautions with firearms.

"Our message to the public is gun safety. Locking and securing your firearms," MPO Robert Ruiz Jr, with the Altamonte Springs Police, told Fox News in a statement. "Keeping them out of reach of curious children. Having a safe is ideal but if you don’t have one, gun locks are another way to secure them."

Ruiz said that the Altamonte Springs Police Department offers anyone who stops by the department a free gun lock. He also urged gun owners to keep codes and keys in a hidden area and to keep firearms separate from ammunition.

"There are so many precautions that could be taken to avoid something as tragic as this story," Ruiz said.

Let the theories commence
 
DrScaryGuy said:
“There are so many precautions that could be taken to avoid something as tragic as this story,"
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That’s a quote from the article, not from @DrScaryGuy

Yeah, the first thing is not to be dating and/or making babies with a guy that’s gonna shoot you in the head and blame a toddler. The investigation on this is gonna be interesting.
 
The article I read a few days ago indicated the coworkers on the call saw the toddler running around in the room, heard a noise that they couldn't identify and then the woman fell.
 
One thing's for sure...

We'll never know exactly what happened here if it wasn't the toddler who did this because it won't fit the liberal narrative.
 
If only she had a gun to protect herself from that toddler..... /sarcasm

Actually, with some people I am not so sure anymore. I always thought the pro 2nd amendment sides call for everyone to arm themselves was dangerous and not well thought out. A lot of people simply arent responsible enough to own a firearm.
 
Hit said:
If only she had a gun to protect herself from that toddler..... /sarcasm

Actually, with some people I am not so sure anymore. I always thought the pro 2nd amendment sides call for everyone to arm themselves was dangerous and not well thought out. A lot of people simply arent responsible enough to own a firearm.
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Then let them suffer the consequences.

That's part of freedom... responsibility for one's own actions.
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
Then let them suffer the consequences.

That's part of freedom... responsibility for one's own actions.
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Thats great and all but I dont like being flagged by morons at the shooting range and I dont want to be robbed/killed by a criminal who has a gun because he broke into some soccer moms suv and found it in the glovebox.

I am all for a barrier to entry for firearm ownership.... as well voting (land owning tax payers). But I never get my way.
 
SPST said:
IDK. Why is the boyfriend telling them on the 911 call that he doesn't know what happened?
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this was one of the better comments from the story link...
"I literally just got home. I just went in the house. I just came through the door!"
" I just found her like that so there was no way I could have done it. I just wasn't here at the time so it's impossible that I did it because I just wasn't here. It just wasn't me because I was out. Did I mention I just came home?"
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Hit said:
Thats great and all but I dont like being flagged by morons at the shooting range and I dont want to be robbed/killed by a criminal who has a gun because he broke into some soccer moms suv and found it in the glovebox.

I am all for a barrier to entry for firearm ownership.... as well voting (land owning tax payers). But I never get my way.
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at least you're consistent, even if you don't respect our natural rights.
C+
 
Hit said:
Thats great and all but I dont like being flagged by morons at the shooting range and I dont want to be robbed/killed by a criminal who has a gun because he broke into some soccer moms suv and found it in the glovebox.

I am all for a barrier to entry for firearm ownership.... as well voting (land owning tax payers). But I never get my way.
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Being flagged is over dramatized, slap them the first time and they won’t do it again.

As for the second, criminal have guns, and criminals will always have guns, so why restrict access for soccer moms?

Voting restrictions, amen brother!
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
Then let them suffer the consequences.

That's part of freedom... responsibility for one's own actions.
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Absolutely. Quoted so I can like it again.
Everyone should have access to self defense unless there's a very valid reason for them not to.
We accept responsibility every time we get in a car. We accept responsibility every time we pick up a knife or tool. We accept responsibility when we carry a weapon. The soccer mom accepts responsibility if she leaves her weapon where it can be easily stolen.
Irresponsible people suffer the consequences of their foolishness.
 
I don't remember anybody here writing that everybody should be armed. I do recall people writing that everybody should have the right to be armed unless they have shown by their actions that they can not carry the responsibility of gun ownership. Being armed and having the right to be armed are two very different things. The 2A does not say that all must be armed but rather says that the government can not infringe on the right to bear arms.
 
Charlie said:
Being armed and having the right to be armed are two very different things. The 2A does not say that all must be armed but rather says that the government can not infringe on the right to bear arms.
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I went into the regular morning hole a while back and there were about 10 men in the place having breakfast. When I went in the owner/cook said ....Here's Billy, he'll tell you why you need a gun in your house!......Apparently a local banker and anti gun person had been Discusssssing about guns for home security.......I replied.....Andy, I don't care one whit whether Bob has a gun in his house. It's HIS home and he can decide. My Problem with Bob is, he DOESN'T want ME to have one..........

@Charlie could have helped me explain it much better. 👍 🙋‍♀️
 
Hit said:
If only she had a gun to protect herself from that toddler..... /sarcasm

Actually, with some people I am not so sure anymore. I always thought the pro 2nd amendment sides call for everyone to arm themselves was dangerous and not well thought out. A lot of people simply arent responsible enough to own a firearm.
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Yeah, but who gets to decide who is and isn't responsible enuff?
 
It's my observation that people who want to disarm others or create hurdles to firearm ownership beyond the carveouts of no violent felons and no mentally unstable folks generally seem to think any restrictions they feel are "reasonable" won't touch their own lives.

Of the two carveouts we have, neither would even be all that important if the violent felons remained incarcerated after they broke the civil agreement we have about not harming others in a civil society. If the mentally unstable were kept in care facilities for their own benefit they wouldn't be dangerous either. Once these two groups are dealt with properly all that's left is to train the kids NOT to touch the gun until they're mature enough. From there it's just a matter of deciding if you wish to be a gun owner or not. All the rest will sort itself out without all the accident and crime we deal with now.
 
Timfoilhat said:
the mentally unstable were kept in care facilities for their own benefit
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You old enough to remember those facilities? This is an area where if the government could do it right it might be great, but they just can’t.
 
JimB said:
You old enough to remember those facilities? This is an area where if the government could do it right it might be great, but they just can’t.
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I know people that were in them prior to being put out on the street to commit suicide and self medicate.
 
Hit said:
I am all for a barrier to entry for firearm ownership.... as well voting (land owning tax payers). But I never get my way.
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That, my friend, is a greased slide the Jim Crow Dems embrace.
The founders had phenomenal insight to write the BOR in a way that's timeless.

I believe everyone should have an education on what a firearm is, isn't and how to safely handle them. Setting up gubmint mandates creates other problems.

What would you suggest as a barrier?
 
Timfoilhat said:
I know people that were in them prior to being put out on the street to commit suicide and self medicate.
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Yeah, so two examples of failed approaches.
 
Schattenreiter said:
So only old well behaved folks get to carry huh?
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Only those who have reached a responsible age, whatever that is decided to be, and people who have not demonstrated by past behavior that they are unable to possess firearms without posing a serious threat to others would be a good place to draw the line if we are going to keep firearms out of the hands of anybody.

Perhaps we should place no conditions at all on firearm ownership and just bury people under the jail or under six feet of dirt if they use firearms to harm people. That would probably work better than the maze of limitations and infringements now in place. That would work even better if the legal system would not go so easy on bad people.
 
Charlie said:
Only those who have reached a responsible age, whatever that is decided to be, and people who have not demonstrated by past behavior that they are unable to possess firearms without posing a serious threat to others would be a good place to draw the line if we are going to keep firearms out of the hands of anybody.

Perhaps we should place no conditions at all on firearm ownership and just bury people under the jail or under six feet of dirt if they use firearms to harm people. That would probably work better than the maze of limitations and infringements now in place. That would work even better if the legal system would not go so easy on bad people.
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All that still does not answer the question of who gets to decide what age is appropriate and what behavior is not.
 
JimB said:
...As for the second, criminal have guns, and criminals will always have guns, so why restrict access for soccer moms...
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Yes. I wish people learn the reality that almost all "criminals' guns" are acquired through the exact same channels as street drugs, and that ain't the backdoors of gun shops in Indiana or soccer moms' glove compartments.
 
Schattenreiter said:
All that still does not answer the question of who gets to decide what age is appropriate and what behavior is not.
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What behavior is not acceptable for someone with a knife, bow and arrow, ball bat, chain, large rock, or anything else that can be used to harm people? Why should firearms be different?

The age should be up to the parents. I got my first shotgun at 11 and bought my first handgun at about 14. I had already been shooting for several years. The parents are supposed to be responsible for their children and should be the ones to decide the age question.
 
JimB said:
You old enough to remember those facilities? This is an area where if the government could do it right it might be great, but they just can’t.
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I remember how terrified my mom was when they just started letting people out of the state mental hospital. We lived about a half mile from it, and she had been a nurse there for years.
She didn't even like driving past it after it had been all but closed down. She must have seen some terrible things and learned some interesting stuff about the people she used to care for...

So yeah - there were lots of people that belonged there, and the decrease in funding during reagan era is probably contributed to the awful rise in crime during the late 80s and early 90s. though it was rising even before that and continued rising long after...

Those old hospital buildings were gorgeous and great to look at, but they had a long history associated with them, and the property was valuable for a little while...
 
Hit said:
Thats great and all but I dont like being flagged by morons at the shooting range and I dont want to be robbed/killed by a criminal who has a gun because he broke into some soccer moms suv and found it in the glovebox.

I am all for a barrier to entry for firearm ownership.... as well voting (land owning tax payers). But I never get my way.
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I don't like being flagged, either.

But you know what else I don't like?

Preemptively screwing with other people's rights.

Rights should only be deprived by due process. Period.

And, quite frankly, restoring rights ought not be as difficult as it's made out to be.
 
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