Possible national lock down coming soon

Why would you ever want to call the police for anything to begin with?
Where’d you get the idea that I did? Didn’t you see the part where I said, “I saw on Nextdoor”?

Still, I said many times that society would be well served by having vetted people in their community that they can turn to when when they need help, like constables. I’ve also said on numerous occasions that I do believe most cops are good people who want to help their community and the problem is the institution starting with the politicians.
 
Bunch of Us were told to begin to telework starting tmmr..

cannot wait to see the bandwidth in Fayetteville tank with every staying at home, and ppl tele working
Wouldnt it be about the same if the people were working in the area already?

Crazy about Charlotte.

And tomorrow is Wednesday, so a few more posters that knew it would be statewide by mid-week might be 'eating crow'
People getting people worked up doesnt help the situation
 
Bunch of Us were told to begin to telework starting tmmr..

cannot wait to see the bandwidth in Fayetteville tank with every staying at home, and ppl tele working

Well, traffic on Ramsey was sure nice today. ~1915 darn near a ghost town. I've ever seen it this dead on a Sunday morning.
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And yea, "lockdown tomorrow" is starting to look like that "Free beer tomorrow" sign in Hooters.
 
None of this has impacted my daily routine, with the exception of shortening my drive to work, since I'm kind of a hermit anyway. Not saying I'm okay with this panic BS, it just doesn't change much for us.

I do hate that tattoo shops got put on the shut down list. Had a session coming up to finish my left sleeve & we were gonna start planning my back piece.
 
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Apparently you and I are close...that's Ramsey near Heather Ridge going to 295, isn't it? My stompin' grounds.



Well, traffic on Ramsey was sure nice today. ~1915 darn near a ghost town. I've ever seen it this dead on a Sunday morning.
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And yea, "lockdown tomorrow" is starting to look like that "Free beer tomorrow" sign in Hooters.
 
On 18 Mar FEMA activated all ten regional headquarters and manned them at 100%; NORTHCOM has since stood up all ten of its affiliated Defense Coordinating Officers ICW the FEMA HQS...this has never been done, not all of them, not like this. We only experience regional disasters, not national and global events. FEMA has a very long arm, and even longer since it was rolled under DHS.

You can scare yourself boogaloo stupid if you start reading the list of executive orders, going back to Kennedy, that they have access to under the "right" conditions.
Can you imagine how fast this bug would roll through a FEMA camp? I’d be like a nazi concentration camp in the end.
 
Well, so far vet hospital are essential business. From state board:

• “Stay at home” and “Shelter in place” Mandates
• Is Veterinary Medicine an essential Business?
• Essential vs. Non-essential Procedures and Services
Wake County is expected to announce on Thursday March 26th, 2020 a “shelter in place” mandate. This mandate is expected to mirror mandates currently in effect for both Mecklenberg and Pitt counties. These mandates both included the following statement in regards to essential businesses/services “Healthcare and Public Health Operations also includes veterinary care and all urgent healthcare services provided to animals”. The Governor has not yet issued a statewide mandate.
Veterinarians are reminded that under recommended COVID-19 “shelter in place” protocols, visits should be limited only to those patients requiring frequent follow-up care, and sick or emergency patients. It is up to the DVM in charge of the case to determine if treatment and services are essential for that animal.
Non-essential visits (those that can be reasonably postponed given the health of the patient) and elective procedures should be delayed.

We have one hospital near us that is closing on Friday for all business.

Also got a request of supplies:

PPEs: Urgent Request from Senator Bill Rabon DVM
If you or your business has any of the following items that you are willing to donate, please contact my office:
• N95 masks
• Face masks
• Disposable gloves
• Disposable gowns
• Nasal swabs for medical use
• Disinfectant
• Eye protection, including safety goggles/glasses
• Hand sanitizer, greater than 60% alcohol
• Hand soap
• Disposable shoe covers
My office will be glad to arrange pickup and ensure these supplies get to the facilities where they are needed most.
If you know of a supplier who currently has any of these items for sale, please share that information too.
You can reach us at [email protected].
Sen. Rabon also instructed that shipments can be sent to his attention at the address below:
4955 Southport Supply Road SE Southport, NC 28461


So far our county (Harnett) has not done a "Stay in Place" order.

I am trying to play the waiting game- I would like to see if they pass the bill that let's me keep employees, pay them normal 40 hours, and then .gov gives it back to me. That way they don't go on unemployment at 2/3 normal pay. We could also stay open and serve some pets.
 
STAY-AT-HOME ORDER -- EFFECTIVE TODAY AT 8:00 AM

https://www.mecknc.gov/news/Pages/County-Issues-'Stay-at-Home'-Order-for-Next-21-Days.aspx


As the number of COVID-19 cases continue to rise in Mecklenburg County, the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Emergency Management Office has announced a Stay-at-Home order for County residents. The order will go into effect on Thursday, March 26 at 8:00 a.m. and will remain in effect until April 16, 2020. The order was announced Tuesday afternoon by Mecklenburg County Manager Dena Diorio during the Board of County Commissioners Budget and Public Policy meeting.

The order will require County residents to remain in their homes for the next 21 days in an attempt to reduce the number of new COVID-19 infections within the County. Exceptions will be allowed for those seeking medical treatment, buying food or exercising outdoors.

Essential workers, including hospital and medical staff, pharmacy employees, law enforcement, firefighters, EMS Agency (MEDIC), some government employees and food service and grocery store employees will be allowed to travel to work. There are also many other essential business operations that can continue to operate.

“As we said from the beginning, we must act based on what we are seeing on the ground in our community,” said Harris. “Mecklenburg County has far more cases than any other County in North Carolina, and this extra step will keep more people away from each other and begin to flatten the rate of new cases before the hospital system becomes overwhelmed.”

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Well, we still don't have any national lockdown as of today, just local ones.
 
I suspect, this being an election year, the current federal administration isn't super keen on issuing a lockdown on the federal level. I would imagine that they're pressuring state administration to initiate lockdowns at the state level - who also doesn't want to do that. The state administration is then pressuring individual cites/counties to issue shelter-in-place mandates. Shit rolls downhill.
 
I suspect, this being an election year, the current federal administration isn't super keen on issuing a lockdown on the federal level. I would imagine that they're pressuring state administration to initiate lockdowns at the state level - who also doesn't want to do that. The state administration is then pressuring individual cites/counties to issue shelter-in-place mandates. Shit rolls downhill.

Los Federales are going to issue guidelines based on risk; the more risk a county/jurisdiction has, the tighter the social distancing/quarantining. The less risk, the less restrictive guidelines.
 
Happening in High Point too apparently. I saw on Nextdoor a thread about some guys going house to house and seeing if they can pilfer from cars and sheds. They were spotted, description, car description, license plate, everything capture. Resident called the police, they basically said thank you and hung up. Only after they were in a shed and another resident with poor marksmanship shot at them did the cops even come and take a report.

hopefully getting shot at spooked that POS. Good thing he had pot marksmanship though, because unless there was a human in that shed other than perp, does not sound like he would have justified use of deadly force.
 
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Told my kids one evening that I was going for a ride. They asked where ... I said just around the block. Got home an hour+ later and they said they thought I was "just going around the block". I told them I went the long way through the country :D Yamaha FZ1

this is and should remain allowed. It’s a peaceful stress free and more importantly isolated activity. It’s now getting warm into spring and people need sun to create victim D which plays important role in immune system health.

we (people who want to drive and explore the state) should absolutely co to use to do so. With no traffic it’s very enjoyable indeed.
 
Asheville just implemented an 8 pm until 6AM curfew. With big fines for violators. I have been at home for nearly three weeks except for grocery store before 8am for us adults. I needed a part to fix my washing machine so I visited the appliance parts store on Wednesday. ( washing is considered a necessary activity). The counter guy eyes bugged out when I came in with a face shield , mask and scrubbin down with sanitizer, paid cash and told him to keep the change. There were NY tags everywhere. The streets were like normal, drive thru doing booming business pizza stores had waiting lines. It was so busy that the city cops were handing out speeding tickets on a major city inroad. Children behind the wheel everywhere. Dumb arse NYorkers flippin me off because they wanted me to yield for them - They were in the GD yield lane! Asheville has been beggin for tourist for years. Now its time for these people to stay home. The bars are closed, the brewery's are closed "some have curb side service" all restaurants are closed except drive thrus. But they still keep coming! The cases in WNC have all come from folks travlin from elsewhere and bringin that crap here! I hope the state decides to close the interstates to all but truck traffic. County law block all in roads at the bridges! I am in my 60s and I care for my live in 95 year old uncle. If I get sick - he dies! So I say lock it all down until this virus shite is over! STAY THE HELL HOME FOLKS!
 
2:20 p.m.: To protect officers from the new coronavirus, various law enforcement agencies, including the Orange County Sheriff's Office and police departments in Durham, Chapel Hill and Hillsborough, aren't dispatching officers to non-violent 911 calls, such as fraud, property damage or larceny cases where the thief has fled. Instead, officers will complete incident reports over the phone, or people can complete the reports themselves online, the departments said.

https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/live-nc-coronavirus-updates/19026241/

And some folks still buy the line that these Selfless Heroes live to serve and protect the public.

I thought they were fighting a war in the streets of America, that any second a ne'er do well could kill them, that's it's never been more dangerous? That the Thin Blue Line bravely stands between the evil we pretend doesn't exist and our families....you know, Sheepdogs protecting the sheep.

Now that there's some risk involved, they won't do the totality of their jobs........so that they may protect themselves, regardless of the effects on the people they claim to serve?

Can we cut their budgets commiserate with the reduction in services?

But I guess the important thing is they get to go home safe at the end of their shift. The People they claim to serve though? You're on your own.
 
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Oh yeah, me too, I got info from a reliable source who I cant name...
The question is how far can he go without the consent of the NC Council of State ... and he’s outnumbered 6 to 4 but with RINO’s who knows ...
Governor - Dem
Lt Governor - Rep
Secretary of State - Dem
Treasurer -Rep
Attorney General - Dem
State Auditor - Dem
Commissioner of Insurance - Rep
Commissioner of Labor - Rep
Commissioner of Agriculture - Rep
Superintendent of Public Instruction - Rep
 
Los Federales are going to issue guidelines based on risk; the more risk a county/jurisdiction has, the tighter the social distancing/quarantining. The less risk, the less restrictive guidelines.
The politicians will loose their minds. Flexible guidance means they will have to make decisions and take responsibility for those decisions. It is one thing to default to the most draconian measures that somebody upstream has suggested, but doing things on their own dime ... This will be interesting to watch.
 
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The question is how far can he go without the consent of the NC Council of State ... and he’s outnumbered 6 to 4 but with RINO’s who knows ...
Governor - Dem
Lt Governor - Rep
Secretary of State - Dem
Treasurer -Rep
Attorney General - Dem
State Auditor - Dem
Commissioner of Insurance - Rep
Commissioner of Labor - Rep
Commissioner of Agriculture - Rep
Superintendent of Public Instruction - Rep


He has already bucked them once.
 
hopefully getting shot at spooked that POS. Good thing he had pot marksmanship though, because unless there was a human in that shed other than perp, does not sound like he would have justified use of deadly force.
The shed would likely (I haven’t seen it) be considered curtilage and hence covered under castle doctrine to where if he forcibly entered he would automatically be considered a lethal threat.
 
The shed would likely (I haven’t seen it) be considered curtilage and hence covered under castle doctrine to where if he forcibly entered he would automatically be considered a lethal threat.

i just took my CHP class last week and this specific question came up. You would need to demonstrate that you had reasonable concern that someone was inside the shed because castle doctrine applies to life not property.

a good example that highlights this is “you pull up to your house and know there is no one else home and can see intruder/burglar inside”...it is your duty to retreat is that situation as your property is only thing being threatened blah blah.

another interesting caveat, is that by engaging then with lethal force, you put THEIR life in imminent danger and they have right to use lethal force lol (though the latter I believe applies outside of castle doc...more of a street thing). Overall though the class was as dreadful as I had anticipated but glad i finally checked it off list.
 
I don't think any of that is correct.

man I don’t doubt half the poop in these classes is false. Just tell ya what I heard within a week from a retired sheriff instructor.

I’m not a lawyer, and neither was he. The only way to truly know where such issues stand would be to look through the case law where there’s court precedent, or hire Goldberg and Goldberg Associates to do the homework for ya.

dobt shoot the messenger lol.
 
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