Georgia shooting of a black man

Now taking a video is subject to a murder charge?

If that was true half the people in NYC would be in jail.
He was part of the group......hence the box in. I'm sure you believe he was just randomly riding down the road minding his business while recoding everything huh?

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Now taking a video is subject to a murder charge?

No, taking video (alone) is not subject to a murder charge. Being involved with a murder is though.
But you just leave out details if it doesnt match your ideals
 
He was part of the group......hence the box in. I'm sure you believe he was just randomly riding down the road minding his business while recoding everything huh?

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I'm not taking up for the guy but I'm sure if they would apply that standard to them all you would charge half the Internet. Just like this guy 90% of these videos are people waiting for the crime.
 
He was part of the group......hence the box in. I'm sure you believe he was just randomly riding down the road minding his business while recoding everything huh?

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Yes he was part of the group, no way he calmly recorded the murder, waited how long to release video, did nothing at the scene of the murder, tries to paint himself as the good guy, concerned citizen. I’m calling bs. Yup charge him along with his partners in crime.
 
Yes he was part of the group, no way he calmly recorded the murder, waited how long to release video, did nothing at the scene of the murder, tries to paint himself as the good guy, concerned citizen. I’m calling bs. Yup charge him along with his partners in crime.
Let us also add the fact that he was recording before the incident. He was recording as he came up on the truck and AA running, he knew something was going down
 
He was part of the group......hence the box in. I'm sure you believe he was just randomly riding down the road minding his business while recoding everything huh?

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Nah, he was just out huntin' and wanted in on the action.

Is that what you believe?
 
Now taking a video is subject to a murder charge?

If that was true half the people in NYC would be in jail.
"Felony murder" can be an odd one, and I've never seen it appplied to this...what it means is if someone dies as a result of you committing certain felony-level crimes, you can be charged with murder. Typically the example used would be: let's say you attempt to rob someone in their home, and the victim suffers a massive heart attack and dies as a result of you scaring the hell out of them while you were in the process of committing robbery...you didn't kill them, but it wouldn't have happened would you not have been robbing them in the first place.

I've also see where a group may attempt to rob someone at their home, then the homeowner kills one of the robbers, the others get away...they get slapped with felony murder for their buddy getting killed.

Here it looks like they're attemping to say "if you didn't box him in he could have gotten away and survived." - pretty shaky, and it ain't gonna stick, imo. Didn't look like his movement was impeded that much if at all by this dude.
 
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That's how you get nice public parks looking like crap and become a place nobody wants to go.

What a decent human being would do is not drive onto a clean public field to tear up the landscape, and stand out there with a winter coat on and no shirt like a weirdo. - Some of you make this way too difficult. Grow up and stop making excuses for people that act like turdbags.
Not going to disagree with the second statement, dude was acting like a douchebag. But if he had done anything actually illegal the cops wouldn’t be fishing for reasons to arrest him like “drugs” or “paraphernalia”. So if you have a problem with people parking on the grass post a sign then have them towed, if there is nothing saying you can’t don’t give people crap when they do. Otherwise your just saying you believe in freedom, unless it is something you find distasteful.
 
"Felony murder" can be an odd one, and I've never seen it appplied to this...what it means is if someone dies as a result of you committing certain felony-level crimes, you can be charged with murder. Typically the example used would be: let's say you attempt to rob someone in their home, and the victim suffers a massive heart attack and dies as a result of you scaring the hell out of them while you were in the process of committing robbery...you didn't kill them, but it wouldn't have happened would you not have been robbing them in the first place.

I've also see where a group may attempt to rob someone at their home, then the homeowner kills one of the robbers, the others get away...they get slapped with felony murder for their buddy getting killed.

Here it looks like they're attemping to say "if you didn't box him in he could have gotten away and survived." - pretty shaky, and it ain't gonna stick, imo. Didn't look like his movement was impeded that much if at all by this dude.

It can also be applied in instances where you are part of a group in which a felony takes place...for example, you drive some friends over to a guys house, they go in and rob him and kill the home owner, and then you drive the getaway car. You werent a part of the actual murder, but you were an accomplice to the crime at large. It's a very controversial law, even in NC, so no telling how/if its translated in GA.
 
FNF? I would like to see that acronym spelled out on here myself. Maybe I'm not seeing something that should be obvious or I'm totally clueless by assuming what I think it means. If I'm correct in my thinking, then my thoughts are that there is no place on our forum for those kind of thoughts about our forum. If I'm wrong, then my apologies are offered to everyone.
 
FNF? I would like to see that acronym spelled out on here myself. Maybe I'm not seeing something that should be obvious or I'm totally clueless by assuming what I think it means. If I'm correct in my thinking, then my thoughts are that there is no place on our forum for those kind of thoughts about our forum. If I'm wrong, then my apologies are offered to everyone.

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If I had to speculate based on that video, they probably confronted him about going in the house/"dwelling" to which he started screaming "I work MFer!!! It's my day off, MFer!!!" about 18 dozen times and things probably went downhill from there. What a mewling little hothead.
 
GA State Prosecutor said today that if the man was a witness he would not have been arrested.
I wonder if they planned this out in advance, given the time between him looking at the house and his jogging routine.
 
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I wonder about the fellow with the hispanic name who was watching the house for the owner. He made the first call to 911, followed the running guy (on foot rather than in a vehicle), and arrived at the scene immediately after the shooting.
 
It can also be applied in instances where you are part of a group in which a felony takes place...for example, you drive some friends over to a guys house, they go in and rob him and kill the home owner, and then you drive the getaway car. You werent a part of the actual murder, but you were an accomplice to the crime at large. It's a very controversial law, even in NC, so no telling how/if its translated in GA.
Yes, basically what I said. - There are specific felony crimes that fall under the umbrella to charge felony murder; "accomplice to" felonies are usually all part of it as well. - I'm not sure about Conspiracy charges though, I think you actually have to be involved in the act directly in some way, I could be wrong though.

I don't typically have a problem with Felony Murder charges.
 
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I don't typically have a problem with Felony Murder charges.
Is there a possibility that those in charge "over charged" knowing they wouldn't get a conviction on those charges?
Depending on how far out the trial is the general public attitude might get a guilty on murder. Other than that I don't think they'll get a guilty on anything other than Voluntary Manslaughter. But really.....not my bailiwick.
 
Is there a possibility that those in charge "over charged" knowing they wouldn't get a conviction on those charges?
Depending on how far out the trial is the general public attitude might get a guilty on murder. Other than that I don't think they'll get a guilty on anything other than Voluntary Manslaughter. But really.....not my bailiwick.
It's very possible, or maybe they have some information we don't, like if prior to this incident the guy filming cut him off while he was running to impede his movement. ??
 
It's very possible, or maybe they have some information we don't, like if prior to this incident the guy filming cut him off while he was running to impede his movement. ??
Cynical as always, I suspect the mob screamed for arrests and charges and the politicians temporarily pacified the mob.
 

The GBI’s Reynolds-

“I can tell you that if we believed he was a witness, we wouldn’t have arrested him,” he said. “So there’s probable cause, and we’re comfortable with that.”

Asked about the nature of Bryan’s charges when he did not pull the trigger, Reynolds replied that in Georgia, the felony murder charge applies if someone commits a felony crime that ends in the death of another person.

“As the warrants indicated, he’s charged with an underlying felony and he’s also charged with felony murder,” Reynolds added. “We believe the evidence would indicate his underlying felony helped cause the death of Ahmaud Arbery.”



According to a police report, Greg McMichael told police that he and his son pursued Arbery after McMichael recognized him from “several recent break-ins in the neighborhood.” He said Bryan tried unsuccessfully to block Arbery’s path and that at that point, he and his son “jumped into the bed of the truck” and continued the chase, the police report said.

 
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George Floyd sort of 'stole' the scene and then a bunch of BS occurred, this man's death was put in the shadows, along with Breonna Taylor.

Anyway, yesterday some updates
"On Wednesday, the office of District Attorney Joyette M. Holmes of Cobb County announced that a grand jury in Glynn County had returned an indictment with nine counts against each of the three defendants: malice murder, four counts of felony murder, two counts of aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment.

The men could face life sentences without parole."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/us/ahmaud-arbery-shooting-murder-indictment.html

Im really curious how they can put 4 counts of murder on each when only one man was killed, I dont understand how that sort of thing works
 
It sounds like they threw the book at them and I agree, this got overshadowed in the media but no doubt these guys are getting heavier counts because of recent events.
 
George Floyd sort of 'stole' the scene and then a bunch of BS occurred, this man's death was put in the shadows, along with Breonna Taylor.

Anyway, yesterday some updates
"On Wednesday, the office of District Attorney Joyette M. Holmes of Cobb County announced that a grand jury in Glynn County had returned an indictment with nine counts against each of the three defendants: malice murder, four counts of felony murder, two counts of aggravated assault, false imprisonment and criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment.

The men could face life sentences without parole."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/us/ahmaud-arbery-shooting-murder-indictment.html

Im really curious how they can put 4 counts of murder on each when only one man was killed, I dont understand how that sort of thing works
The DA will make as many charges as they think they can make stick, knowing that a multiplicity of convictions makes the mandatory sentencing longer. The "justice" system in the US is so hopelessly screwed up that there is really no redeeming it without a wholesale reworking.
 
I saw stuff yesterday or today, I forget
Some are upset only one black man on the jury, I hope that really doesnt make a difference, it shouldnt
 
Sadly it often does make a difference. It really shouldn't but history proves differently.

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Yeah that’s Bull crap. If race matters then they are not doing their job on the jury as FAIR and IMPARTIAL. I think this GA case is going to be a powder keg either way it goes down. The guys have and rightfully deserve their day in court just as The victim in this case did, but well here we are.
 
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