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Trespassers. They fall right behind thieves as my most hated people.

Do you know these people? Tell them I hate them. Is this you? Well, I hate you.

We have land that borders a parcel owned by Edwards Timber. The gate is on their property, but the road cuts across our piece. These people decided to cut the lock and, I guess, try to catch their dogs. "But muh dogs can't read posted signs." I'm not sure which season is in that would allow running dogs in Anson County.

Regardless, Dad is now looking into one of those cell links for this camera, in hopes of getting them in real time, if they come back.

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My friend confronted some of them there trespassers and told them next time they or the dogs ignore the no trespassing signs that they will be shot. The aholes told my friend that their dogs don't know how to read so signs don't apply to them. He told them you better teach em!
 
I have hunting property that has a subdivision and walking trail on two borders. It is amazing how many people I see wandering around the property despite all the no trespassing signs. Even had one call the cops on me for “threatening” them when all I said was “that is a good way to wind up with an arrow in you” (was hunting at the time). Cops came out, heard the story and told them it wasn’t a threat, it was a warning and told them to stay off the property
 
Charlie said:
I hate trespassers. They are the skum of the earth along with child molesters, thrives, and politicians.
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I'm not sure what thrives are? Is it one of those words we are supposed to Google to get added on another list? 😉🤣
 
Deer season, other than archery, is not in for Anson Co. yet. Anson is in Central season, black powder starts Nov. 6-19, gun Nov. 20-Jan 1. Hunting with dogs in Anson Co. is only allowed the last 5 weeks of the season, counting back from Jan. 1, and then only allowed east of NC 742.

Get in touch with the game warden, but make sure the property is posted with signage or purple paint. If not, all the game wardens can run them off. Proper posting they can arrest them for trespassing. When I bought my mountain property I met the game warden up there one day and he told me to get it posted ASAP so that they can do something about trespassers.

This will only get worse the longer the season goes on.
 
hp468 said:
Post on Facebook that you suspect that they have been molesting animals on your property. Someone will defend them..
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Those poor squirrels, I would hate to see what they do with the snakes, it must be very traumatic for the animals either way
 
First, it is not the dogs fault it’s the owners so take it out on the right ones.

Second, a few 10’ sections of 1x4 with 10 penny nails driven in them every inch landed just under the grass will “point out” the fact they are trespassing …
 
Sorry. for the guy who equated trespassers to kiddy diddlers.

Was it your lock they cut? I'd be mad about destruction of property.
 
Catfish said:
Sorry. for the guy who equated trespassers to kiddy diddlers.

Was it your lock they cut? I'd be mad about destruction of property.
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Gotcha.

Yes. The gate was the type that has a lock on top (Edwards) and a lock on bottom (ours).

Seeing as they also have a kid with them, that says a little bit, too.
 
I don’t find this an over reaction. Poachers and trespassers are dangerous to themselves and others. I was walking in to my property to hunt turkeys one day in a deep fog. I walked right by a car in the field that should not have been there.

I ended up finding the guy and running him off but there’s a decent chance that someone could get shot hunting somewhere they shouldn’t be. What if one of us was moving decoys or a turkey was between us.

I want to know where other people are nearby for safety even beyond the criminality involved here.
 
kcult said:
Looks like they might be from Troy, NC. Looks like they may have also taken a couple of hogs.

Waiting on pics, since I don't have FB.
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It ain't hog season now is it?
 
As someone that used to coon hunt, I have thoughts on both sides of this issue. For starters, cutting a lock is wrong and destruction of property. I have used and have heard the saying “dogs can’t read posted signs”. This is in fact true, if my dogs could read, they wouldn’t be hunting dogs. A good dog will go where the game they are chasing goes. I have tracked my dogs for miles before. I have hunted on private and game lands. I have always had permission(most of the time it was written permission) from the landowner that I started hunting on. When we turn the dogs out, we never really know where they are going but we TRY to stay on the land we have permission to hunt on. If they do cross over onto someone else’s land we call or knock on the landowners door to get permission. Most of the time they tell us it’s ok. I’ve had lots of landowners want to come with to watch and see how it works. If the landowner doesn’t allow us to go, then we get the law involved and the law lets us go get our dogs. The law is on the hunters/dogs side when it comes to that. As long as property isn’t damaged and you take the correct steps. The landowner can’t not let you get your dogs if law enforcement is present. On the other hand, sometimes if the dogs go on someone else’s land and we feel it’s easier/ better to just get our dogs and get out, we will. No one likes to knock on someone’s door at 2am. And no one likes to be woke up by someone in the middle of the night. This situation usually is ugly and we try to avoid. BUT we do not drive on someone else’s land without their permission and we certainly don’t damage property. I have been shot at before while hunting on property that we had permission. It’s not fun. My dogs have been threatened.

Not all dogs but some are worth a lot of money. My brother still coon hunts and he has been offered 10s of thousands for him. It’s a pricey mistake to shot one.

The guys on your trail cam are not hunters! They are poachers. Hunters don’t cut locks or damage property or kill game on property they don’t have permission.

I’m a landowner and I get the other side also. There are better ways to go about it. Most people that don’t want hunting/fishing on their property put up no trespassing signs with a phone number. I have call many a people to get permission to get my dog before.

I hope this sheds some light on the other side of the fence. Not all hunters are like those people.
 
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Crankbait said:
the law involved and the law lets us go get our dogs
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According to NC hunting regulations NC has no right to retrieve statute.so how does law enforcement make the land owner let you retrieve the dogs just curious.

Here's a pdf of NC dog hunting regulations In case any one interested

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Crankbait said:
As someone that used to coon hunt, I have thoughts on both sides of this issue. For starters, cutting a lock is wrong and destruction of property. I have used and have heard the saying “dogs can’t read posted signs”. This is in fact true, if my dogs could read, they wouldn’t be hunting dogs. A good dog will go where the game they are chasing goes. I have tracked my dogs for miles before. I have hunted on private and game lands. I have always had permission(most of the time it was written permission) from the landowner that I started hunting on. When we turn the dogs out, we never really know where they are going but we TRY to stay on the land we have permission to hunt on. If they do cross over onto someone else’s land we call or knock on the landowners door to get permission. Most of the time they tell us it’s ok. I’ve had lots of landowners want to come with to watch and see how it works. If the landowner doesn’t allow us to go, then we get the law involved and the law lets us go get our dogs. The law is on the hunters/dogs side when it comes to that. As long as property isn’t damaged and you take the correct steps. The landowner can’t not let you get your dogs if law enforcement is present. On the other hand, sometimes if the dogs go on someone else’s land and we feel it’s easier/ better to just get our dogs and get out, we will. No one likes to knock on someone’s door at 2am. And no one likes to be woke up by someone in the middle of the night. This situation usually is ugly and we try to avoid. BUT we do not drive on someone else’s land without their permission and we certainly don’t damage property. I have been shot at before while hunting on property that we had permission. It’s not fun. My dogs have been threatened.

Not all dogs but some are worth a lot of money. My brother still coon hunts and he has been offered 10s of thousands for him. It’s a pricey mistake to shot one.

The guys on your trail cam are not hunters! They are poachers. Hunters don’t cut locks or damage property or kill game on property they don’t have permission.

I’m a landowner and I get the other side also. There are better ways to go about it. Most people that don’t want hunting/fishing on their property put up no trespassing signs with a phone number. I have call many a people to get permission to get my dog before.

I hope this sheds some light on the other side of the fence. Not all hunters are like those people.
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We're not anti-dog. We're anti-tresspasser. We have returned dozens of dogs that we were able to catch. I've also killed deer in front of other's dogs, on our property. The only dogs I've killed were feral.

Without looking it up, I'm going to say that you're 100% wrong about dog retrieval, with the help of LEO. A landowner may have felt either intimidated or nonchalant about it, but I'm pretty certain there is no law or statute that says guys can go on someone else's land and get their dogs, regardless of how much value someone places on the mutt.
 
Catfish said:
Sorry. for the guy who equated trespassers to kiddy diddlers.

Was it your lock they cut? I'd be mad about destruction of property.
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I have had a whole lot more than a lock cut. They have stolen two boats chained to trees, trashed two other boats parked by the barn, torn down gates, driven through planted fields, stolen deer stands, destroyed deer stands, torn up roads, set the woods on fire, torn down posted signs, shot deer in the front yard between the road and the house, stolen building materials, and hunted my land without permission. You are taking your life in your own hands if you confront them. If you get the law involved, the penalty is rather small, and they will come back and set fire to your woods or other property. They will sue you and win if you set any sort of trap in the roads for them. They are a disgusting bunch of subhumans that make child molesters look like Sunday school teachers.

Edit: It was actually three boats stolen rather than two.
 
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People that don't understand hatred for trespassers have never had to remove animal carcass from poachers, repair creek banks and food plots from 4-wheeler damage, clean up trash (including used condoms), put out fires, or had animals shot by various wanderers.

My most recent notable trespasser brought the cops to my house after I dismantled her tree stand and trail cam with a side grinder.
 
Crankbait said:
As someone that used to coon hunt, I have thoughts on both sides of this issue. For starters, cutting a lock is wrong and destruction of property. I have used and have heard the saying “dogs can’t read posted signs”. This is in fact true, if my dogs could read, they wouldn’t be hunting dogs. A good dog will go where the game they are chasing goes. I have tracked my dogs for miles before. I have hunted on private and game lands. I have always had permission(most of the time it was written permission) from the landowner that I started hunting on. When we turn the dogs out, we never really know where they are going but we TRY to stay on the land we have permission to hunt on. If they do cross over onto someone else’s land we call or knock on the landowners door to get permission. Most of the time they tell us it’s ok. I’ve had lots of landowners want to come with to watch and see how it works. If the landowner doesn’t allow us to go, then we get the law involved and the law lets us go get our dogs. The law is on the hunters/dogs side when it comes to that. As long as property isn’t damaged and you take the correct steps. The landowner can’t not let you get your dogs if law enforcement is present. On the other hand, sometimes if the dogs go on someone else’s land and we feel it’s easier/ better to just get our dogs and get out, we will. No one likes to knock on someone’s door at 2am. And no one likes to be woke up by someone in the middle of the night. This situation usually is ugly and we try to avoid. BUT we do not drive on someone else’s land without their permission and we certainly don’t damage property. I have been shot at before while hunting on property that we had permission. It’s not fun. My dogs have been threatened.

Not all dogs but some are worth a lot of money. My brother still coon hunts and he has been offered 10s of thousands for him. It’s a pricey mistake to shot one.

The guys on your trail cam are not hunters! They are poachers. Hunters don’t cut locks or damage property or kill game on property they don’t have permission.

I’m a landowner and I get the other side also. There are better ways to go about it. Most people that don’t want hunting/fishing on their property put up no trespassing signs with a phone number. I have call many a people to get permission to get my dog before.

I hope this sheds some light on the other side of the fence. Not all hunters are like those people.
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In NC?? What law Enforcement? Local Sheriff or Wildlife? Actually any landowner CAN deny you access to retrieve your dogs, there is not a “right to retrieve” law in NC. I’ve personally done it.


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Catfish said:
I get it now. you are not talking about a stroll through the woods or a kid getting his football. vandals and thieves who trespass commit a different level of crime.
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And there is not much of a legal way to stop them from destroying your stuff. They are among the lowest of the low.
 
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