Carry as in a rifle case "going to the range". Perfect fit for the folded S2K, I can carry a sling, several Glock fun stick mags and a ballistic plate and have a good deal of addition room.
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Would be cool if the bag could unzip in to a plate carrier
"Concealable weapon" means a firearm having a length of less than twelve inches measured along its greatest dimension that must be carried in a manner that is hidden from public view in normal wear of clothing except when needed for self-defense, defense of others, and the protection of real or personal property.
English, do you speak it? That's my problem with a bag to hold a pistol/SBR. The NC law is not going to let you conceal it and swag it around ready to deploy.Just remember the way NC's CHP and SC's CWP are written to were concealing a Sub 2K would be questionable on your person but unloaded in say your trunk sure. NC states "handgun" specifically and SC while it states "concealable weapon" it goes on to defined it as
Just remember the way NC's CHP and SC's CWP are written to were concealing a Sub 2K would be questionable on your person but unloaded in say your trunk sure. NC states "handgun" specifically and SC while it states "concealable weapon" it goes on to defined it as
In SC, that's a cased rifle. No need to worry. I just wouldn't have a round chambered in the passenger compartment
Or if it turned into a robot!
My only concern with it is that it's clearly a "tactical" case and therefore like a first stop for any thief.
English, do you speak it? That's my problem with a bag to hold a pistol/SBR. The NC law is not going to let you conceal it and swag it around ready to deploy.
Curious OP, what's the length of the Sub2K folded?
Yes it is. If it is within reach, and concealed in the vehicle, you are in violation of the law.16.5" . Its not to carry around on my person kind of setup obviously, that is what my handguns are for........this is to ride in the truck, go with me into my office and ride home again. Its no different than going to the range with a case rifle and ammo. This no different than going to the range with an AR in a case with several loaded mags in the case mag pockets, except this looks like a computer case..
Yes it is. If it is within reach, and concealed in the vehicle, you are in violation of the law.
Rest assured small minds like yours have never changed the world.Or if it turned into a robot!
My only concern with it is that it's clearly a "tactical" case and therefore like a first stop for any thief.
Would be cool if the bag could unzip in to a plate carrier
You're right, this thread isn't about the law, but we also need to make sure we don't spread or perpetuation misinformation and make sure fellow forum members understand the law is anything but clear.
Rest assured small minds like yours have never changed the world.
Given this general prohibition of carrying concealed weapons, individuals must be ever vigilant to ensure their particular situation cannot be construed as concealing a weapon, either on or about them, without being properly authorized to do so with a valid North Carolina, or recognized out-of-state concealed handgun permit. Therefore, the permittee's accessibility to the weapon is of prime importance. It is unlawful to transport a weapon ( absent a proper permit) that is BOTH concealed and readily accessible to a person. (1) It is for these reasons, that when transporting a weapon in a vehicle, even greater care must be exercised to ensure that the weapon is not concealed and within the ready access to an occupant of the vehicle. (2) North Carolina law does not specifically address how to transport a weapon in an automobile. Therefore, the central question becomes: when is the weapon concealed and readily accessible to an occupant of an automobile? Obviously, a weapon would be concealed and readily accessible, and therefore in violation of North Carolina law, if it were placed in such areas of a vehicle as under the seat of the automobile; in a bag in the back seat; or in some other manner is covered or hidden within the easy reach of an occupant of the vehicle. (3) It is our recommendation that firearms should not be carried in a glove compartment regardless of whether the compartment is locked or not.
While a weapon carried openly in an automobile would not be concealed, there are other problems specific to this method of carrying a weapon. The principal drawback, of course, is in the event of an individual being stopped by a law enforcement official, the officer may not readily know that individual's purpose and intent for carrying a weapon. As such, it is imperative that an individual immediately notify an officer of the presence of any weapon in the automobile, for the officer's and the vehicle's occupants' safety. Another obvious drawback is that a valuable weapon may be in plain view for potential thieves to see. The prohibition to carrying concealed weapons applies not only to handguns and other weapons commonly thought of as being easily hidden, but also to "long guns" as well. (4) Therefore, shotguns and rifles concealed behind the seat of pickup trucks, and elsewhere in other vehicles, could similarly violate North Carolina law.
As to those vehicles with no easily discernible trunk area (e.g., SUVs, vans, etc.), it becomes a factual determination of when the weapon is within ready and easy access to an occupant of the vehicle. If the weapon is concealed near, in close proximity to, or within the convenient control and access of an occupant, which would allow him/her to use the weapon quickly, then a fair probability exists that the occupant is in violation of the law. Therefore, care must be exercised by any occupant of any vehicle to ensure that weapons are securely locked away in as remote an area as possible, in relation to the passenger compartment of the vehicle. It is important to emphasize that these prohibitions apply to passengers, as well as drivers of any vehicle. (5)
Quoting your post since you've gone back and edited several of them. Notice your picture labeling the case as a bag.
Carry as in a rifle case "going to the range". Perfect fit for the folded S2K, I can carry a sling, several Glock fun stick mags and a ballistic plate and have a good deal of addition room.
I completely agree with this as well. Molle and tan "scream" hey I have a firearm inside or likely something of value. Of course, I had a coworker who had her car broken into and she had 2 tennis rackets in a racket case, and the thieves stole the racket CASE after taking the rackets out. The case apparently was garbage and the rackets very expensive, so maybe they were just stupid.What crawled up your butt mate?
I'm just saying the case screams "steal me", which would have been a concern if it was to live in a vehicle. Since the op is going to be toting it into work it's less important to be discrete.
I promise I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just want everyone to be informed to a point they feel comfortable enough to make their own decision.One of my friends is a corporate lawyer.
If I didn't know better I'd swear he hacked JRH's account.
I promise I'm not trying to be argumentative.
Did you not read my post with the exact wording of the law? There is specifically a line about it being in the back seat which classifies it as readily accessible.If the bag was behind the front seat, I don't call that readily accessible.
Did you not read my post with the exact wording of the law? There is specifically a line about it being in the back seat which classifies it as readily accessible.
@pirate have you tried any of the Korean 33rd mags? I'm thinking of getting a few to keep in the trunk. Thanks
Your attitude and the way you attempt to make your points is poor friend. The OP is about a case option for the S2K that is all, not an legal assessment of what readily accessible means. You have opinions and the way you state them makes you sound to me like a newbie who wants to get some street cred. You are going about it the wrong way. No matter how many times you repeat your opinion with smart ass comments does not make you right. Gray areas of the law will always be open for interpretation. I have 40 years of experience with firearms so I will go with what I know and the feed back I have gotten from LEO's I have discussed this issue with. (2) North Carolina law does not specifically address how to transport a weapon in an automobile. This means its open to interpretation to what "readily accessible" is period. But we all appreciate your opinion anyway, but you need to work on your attitude. As you state above you may not be trying to be argumentative...... but that is exactly how you come across to others. If this thread is a problem for you just move along to the next one.