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just got my copy of Gun Owners of America. In it i read that Senatot Lindsey Graham is pushing this bill.

This bill would allow the cops to break in unannounced and confiscate your guns and ammo by anyone who

complains and says your dangerous. might want to call your senators.


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Red Flag, or "Extreme Risk Protection Orders" (ERPO), will be introduced in NC and SC as well.
we could have a National Red Flag Law along with your state's RFL.
the prosecution could pick the one they like (no double jeopardy, yet).
 
Hopefully that little thing called the 4th amendment will cause him some trouble

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated...

How is the big court going to rule on this? That is going to make or break guns in free peoples hands.
 
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This was only a matter of time. The next question is: How long till the government starts reading your social media, and deems non conforming political thinking the reason to send the police to your house?
How long before they try to execute one of these stupid things and it goes astronomically sideways, for the cops. When the populace becomes sufficiently non compliant and dangerous, they’ll start finding donut shops.
 
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How long before they try to execute one of these stupid things and it goes astronomically sideways, for the cops. When the populace becomes sufficiently non compliant and dangerous, they’ll start finding donut shops.

The police are already doing this in states that have these laws, with no reported deaths yet.
 
The police are already doing this in states that have these laws, with no reported deaths yet.
Which is only going to embolden them and make them get sloppy in their tactics. Eventually they’ll pick the wrong target.

The whole thing also goes to show exactly what the cops are, whose side theyre on, and it sure isn’t defenders of truth, justice, or liberty.
 
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Which is only going to embolden them and make them get sloppy in their tactics. Eventually they’ll pick the wrong target.

The whole thing also goes to show exactly what the cops are, whose side theyre on, and it sure isn’t defenders of truth, justice, or liberty.

And therein lies the rub, up to and including qualified immunity for officers of the State. It is rare when they face any corrective or punitive consequences of their actions and decisions when those actions and decisions are less than moral or correct. It takes cell phone video and public outrage....and then both officers and their apologists cry about being victimized by being saddled with accountability from a public they claim to serve.

People need to wake up and understand your pro-2A “constitutional conservative” cop buddies will take your guns if so ordered, they will not suddenly find a moral compass that their actions insodoing may be wrong, and you’ll be called a thug and a criminal if you resist.

They will kill you over a plant that a bunch of corrupt politicians said you can’t have.

They will kill over guns as well.
 
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Which is only going to embolden them and make them get sloppy in their tactics. Eventually they’ll pick the wrong target.

The whole thing also goes to show exactly what the cops are, whose side theyre on, and it sure isn’t defenders of truth, justice, or liberty.

No matter what the cops on gun forums say, they will come and get your guns when told to.

As for sloppy, it will be like no knock search warrants. For the most part, no cops get hurt. Really one person vs a swat team, the gun owner is going to lose. It's going to go bad, when the government tries to confiscate a groups guns. We already have seen this with Waco and Ruby Ridge.
 
Hopefully that little thing called the 4th amendment will cause him some trouble

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated...

Don’t be silly. That document some people worship hasn’t prevented any other overreach. And it won’t stop this.
 
As for sloppy, it will be like no knock search warrants. For the most part, no cops get hurt. Really one person vs a swat team, the gun owner is going to lose. It's going to go bad, when the government tries to confiscate a groups guns. We already have seen this with Waco and Ruby Ridge.
Of course this will be their tactic. They just won't like the response.
 
I have never been for punishing people before they do something worth punishment.

If the powers that be are going to try to keep people from doing something wrong, are we going to be able to sue them if they fail to protect me against someone who harms me? If not, it becomes more obvious to anyone with at least a partial brain that they do not want to make us safe but rather just want to control us in as many ways as they can. They do not care about us. They do not care about our children. They do not care about women. They do not want to improve the quality of our lives. They do not want to make us safer. They only care about power.
 
The police are already doing this in states that have these laws, with no reported deaths yet.
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This was only a matter of time. The next question is: How long till the government starts reading your social media, and deems non conforming political thinking the reason to send the police to your house?
Hate to sound like a parrot BUT...9 more years MAX....Get ready!!
Killed a guy in Maryland last month to keep him from hurting himself.
 
Hopefully that little thing called the 4th amendment will cause him some trouble

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated...

There are other search and seizure powers under the code (s.117.02 - 117.04 et al, and the general search warrant under S.487), but the "warrantless" searches are for when conditions for a warrant exist, but under exigent circumstances the time or conditions are such that to obtain a warrant is impractical.
 
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Nah, man....they gotta live with each and every one of them for the rest of their lives!

Just like the cops in parkland FL, they were so hurt by the deaths of the students, they could not do a vote of no confidence on the Sherif. Then we have the cops that stood outside the pulse night club for hours while citizens were being murdered in side.
 
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There are other search and seizure powers under the code (s.117.02 - 117.04 et al, and the general search warrant under S.487), but the "warrantless" searches are for when conditions for a warrant exist, but under exigent circumstances the time or conditions are such that to obtain a warrant is impractical.

Huh....my copies of the Bill of Rights don't include an impracticality clause in the 4th Amendment.

It does say "shall not be violated," which by its plain meaning, doesn't give the State a "but we didn't have time" leg to stand on.
 
just got my copy of Gun Owners of America. In it i read that Senatot Lindsey Graham is pushing this bill.

This bill would allow the cops to break in unannounced and confiscate your guns and ammo by anyone who

complains and says your dangerous. might want to call your senators.


jim


Call your senators and your representative and the NRA to tell them that your money went to GOA (mine did)...don't let this crap happen.

I have a list for Lindsey Graham: Red Flag Laws, Grahamnesty, general John McCainnery. In my next letter I am just plain going to tell him if he is going to play ball with the globalists and democrats I will just vote for one of those. Would love to primary that turd out.
 
This was only a matter of time. The next question is: How long till the government starts reading your social media, and deems non conforming political thinking the reason to send the police to your house?

Wouldn’t be surprised if they already are.

They have been since the late 90s for sure. This is part of how they track "militia groups" and "terrorists" among other groups. Many people have received a visit due to their online activities.
 
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This citizen did not live to talk about it.

FERNDALE, Md. -- Two police officers ordered to remove firearms from a house on a "red flag" protective order fatally shot an armed man Monday morning in Ferndale, Maryland, police said. Anne Arundel County Police arrived at the house at 5:17 a.m. to remove guns from the home under a new law that temporarily allows for the seizure of firearms if a person shows "red flags" that they are a danger to themselves or others, CBS Baltimore reports.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maryla...ag-gun-removal-order-fatally-shoot-armed-man/
 
This citizen did not live to talk about it.

FERNDALE, Md. -- Two police officers ordered to remove firearms from a house on a "red flag" protective order fatally shot an armed man Monday morning in Ferndale, Maryland, police said. Anne Arundel County Police arrived at the house at 5:17 a.m. to remove guns from the home under a new law that temporarily allows for the seizure of firearms if a person shows "red flags" that they are a danger to themselves or others, CBS Baltimore reports.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maryla...ag-gun-removal-order-fatally-shoot-armed-man/

He should have gotten out of bed and prostrated himself before muh heroez and thanked them for their service.

Because he dared to exist in a manner in which the king decreed no bueno, his highness' men protected and served the life right out of him.

Musta just been some of them extremely rare bad apples.....cause some in the gun community have assured me that cops won't be coming for people's guns... that's the line in the sand where all virtue and fidelity to the Constitution shows up.

Damn the luck.
 
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#IWillNotComply
 
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