What is it about the engine @Qball ?
This is because Jeep made a "brand" that went away from what their original buyers wanted. 99% of their buyers today never do squat with them besides buy expensive coffee. No one buying new Jeeps understands torque, gearing , rear ends, etc. They are fashion accessories, and the company is feeding that demand.
Not sure what part of PA you're looking at, but they have a 1000 yard range I've been wanting to go check out.
I had a 1977 Renegade with the Levi package and it had the 304. I'd like to have it today.I wish I still had my '77 CJ-5 with the 304 V8!
I'll do the same as I've done on my other Jeeps and replace the stock wheels and tires first and then do a few other things such as replacing the stock headlights, fog lights, and the radio. If the shocks and steering stabilizer are original, those will be replaced as well. Probably also install some front seat covers and new carpet.
Then I'll check the engine over real good and replace anything necessary such as the accessory drive belt and spark plugs if needed. The owner installed a K&N conical air filter on it with an aftermarket intake crossover pipe. The stock air intake box and crossover will also be reinstalled.
Yeah, sounds like Jeeps are just great. First thing you do is rebuild it.
So nowās a bad time to bring up liking the new Jeep truck...and not denying that thereās a chance Iād buy coffee that costs more than $1 a cup while driving it?
Dave, let me know when you are ready to sell the JK, I have a good friend in Ohio that is looking for a nice JK 2 door with a 6 speed.
Would swapping gears help? A set of 3.73s or 4.11s might help.It's not a bad engine reliability or power wise. It's just that it's a car engine. This new Jeep Renegade pickup that a lot of folks are going bonkers over is going to have, at least for the first year or so, the exact same 3.6L Pentastar engine that's in my 2016 JK. It's a car engine and not a dedicated truck engine like the 4.0L I-6 that is in the TJ.
Jeeps and trucks do not perform well with engines that are tuned for highway use. I can hook up my trailer to my son's TJ, which has 95 less peak horsepower and 30 ft. lbs less peak torque than my JK, load up my 850 lb. Outlander and you cannot tell you are pulling it behind that TJ.
If I do the same with my JK, which I have several times, you can definitely tell you are pulling something and you have to downshift on hills and the fuel mileage drops off much worse than the TJ.
Basically it just sucks when you're trying to do Jeep things and really sucks when you're driving it like a car in the mountains on the highway. The cruise control won't hold and you have to downshift to 5th most of the time on steeper hills. It's not necessary to do so while driving the TJ. They both have the exact same Dana 44s with 4.11 final drive. It's just that the DOHC car engine in my JK doesn't produce good hp and torque until you really rev it. The TJ produces it's peak hp and torque at a much lower RPM which is much more desirable in a vehicle such as a Jeep Wrangler, even on the street.
Would swapping gears help? A set of 3.73s or 4.11s might help.
Our slug got some 5.13 G2's when the rear end grenaded (thankfully in the driveway) while I was in there we added some arb love as well and new G2 axles to finish it off. Helped quite a bit with the 35's but it's still a mini van motor after all. I forsee a hemi or a small diesel swap in its future for the minion who has started driving her.It's got 4.11 gears. I thought about going to 4.56 but I decided against it. I just like the smaller TJ with the 4.0L better.
6 speed in both? The 4.0 might make more lower end tq. The 4.56 would be an improvement. It just hard for me to believe there is that much difference.It's got 4.11 gears. I thought about going to 4.56 but I decided against it. I just like the smaller TJ with the 4.0L better.
Turbo BT4 might be the ticket.Our slug got some 5.13 G2's when the rear end grenaded (thankfully in the driveway) while I was in there we added some arb love as well and new G2 axles to finish it off. Helped quite a bit with the 35's but it's still a mini van motor after all. I forsee a hemi or a small diesel swap in its future for the minion who has started driving her.
6 speed in both? The 4.0 might make more lower end tq. The 4.56 would be an improvement. It just hard for me to believe there is that much difference.
Yes the 4.0 and most all inlines are more reliable.Yep. Both are 6 speed manuals. Driving around town you don't notice much difference. But as soon as you start driving hills or mountains, or pulling a loaded trailer, it's very noticeable.
All you have to do is look at the horsepower and torque curves for each engine.
Besides, that 4.0 liter is a simple time proven OHV pushrod engine. Personally, in my opinion, it's the better engine for a Jeep Wrangler.
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The TJ is just flat out more enjoyable to drive period, from my perspective anyway.
With the 4.0 engine....4.11 ring&pinion is about right for 33"-35" tires......unless its off road only. You can put around town at 50-55 mph while barely touching the gas. At 70 mph or so it turned about 2500 rpms.6 speed in both? The 4.0 might make more lower end tq. The 4.56 would be an improvement. It just hard for me to believe there is that much difference.
The TJ is just flat out more enjoyable to drive period, from my perspective anyway.
It's yo money, you earned it, spend it any way that puts a grin on yo face!And that's all that matters