Well....that was crazy

Maybe it's me but I have no problem with someone asking me to see a receipt. These people are just doing their job so why make their job harder. I'm sure that they would rather be doing something else. I rarely shop at Walmart but when I do I usually make it my business to walk towards them and hold my receipt out. And it's happened on numerous occasions they just wave me by. I guess they figure if I'm so anxious to get checked I didn't steal anything.
 
What is wrong with you people that somebody doing their job at the door is such an invasion of your privacy that you're ready to start a war over?

Do you think that they aren't trying to do the job they were tasked to do... that they're overstepping their authority?

If this is such a big deal you should probably shop elsewhere.
Well, frankly, I dont like the insinuation that I'm a thief... which is exactly what it is when the greeter asks to see your receipt on the way out.

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Like several others I don’t see the big deal. I get checked occasionally and while it annoys me a bit I realize the person is just doing their job.
I do see a bias at the local Wal-Mart. They will often stop Hispanic families and allow others to roll on by.
Also at Wal-Mart I usually check out through the garden center. There’s not a receipt checker there and I usually roll on out.
 
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Since the checkers are in the vestibules and not within sight of the registers I'll have to call BS on that play.

Guess you've never been to a WM where they sit their fat asses on the bench at the store-side edge of the vestibule, next to the empty newspaper stand, ~ 20' from the nearest register & can see the entire length of the row of cashiers.

Bet yer a hell of an investigator, what with your all-knowing, all-seeing knowledge of a scene you've never seen. But you keep on hall monitoring & tell us all how it really is.
 
Like several others I don’t see the big deal. I get checked occasionally and while it annoys me a bit I realize the person is just doing their job.
Not trying to single you out, and I say this to all who have expressed this notion: while I am not the type to show my ass by default when dealing with the public, I agree that it's treating me like I thief and I am offended by this act. I know it's a theatrical display made in the hopes of discouraging the real thieves, which it won't. Coupled with the fact that the stores won't do anything about the real theft problem, it doubly compounds my annoyance with being treated this way. To put the topper on it, I end up paying higher prices for the inaction of dealing with real thieves.

So, I get treated like a thief and pay the consequences because the store is too chicken dung to actually stop the thieves.
 
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Are we really getting shitty with each over a fricken Wal-Mart door greeter topic?

Watch this...I'll solve all of this so you guys can go bicker about something at least half-way productive:
1. If you don't like being sequestered at the door, smile and respectfully tell the person "no thank you." If they escalate it from there, then it's on them for being a fool. No need to waive your "screw everyone, I'm a free man" and spread general assholery all over someone who has an already crappy job and likely has nowhere near the same expertise on the subject of freedom as you.
2. If they're dumb enough to touch you, use some of those judy-chop skills that are apparently prevalent here in this thread. If you need a refresher:


In other words: lightEN up, fellas.
 
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Since the checkers are in the vestibules and not within sight of the registers I'll have to call BS on that play.

You should look into getting a job as one of the receipt checkers,..... you could get off standing there all day stopping people saying, "papers please". ----LOL

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Guess you've never been to a WM where they sit their fat asses on the bench at the store-side edge of the vestibule, next to the empty newspaper stand, ~ 20' from the nearest register & can see the entire length of the row of cashiers.

yeah, a lot of them appear extremely out of shape and/or frail,... the last place they're gonna stand is in an unconditioned vestibule all day.
 
Welcome to CFF, where we will create lifelong enemies over the most trivial thing you can imagine.

Nah, they have to command at least some modicum of respect to rise from beneath my contempt, in order to earn that distinction. Knee-benders & those who demand I respect their authoritah will never rise to that level.

Are we really getting shitty with each over a fricken Wal-Mart door greeter topic?

Watch this...I'll solve all of this so you guys can go bicker about something at least half-way productive:
1. If you don't like being sequestered at the door, smile and respectfully tell the person "no thank you." If they escalate it from there, then it's on them for being a fool. No need to waive your "screw everyone, I'm a free man" and spread general assholery all over someone who has an already crappy job and likely has nowhere near the same expertise on the subject of freedom as you.
2. If they're dumb enough to touch you, use some of those judy-chop skills that are apparently prevalent here in this thread. If you need a refresher:


In other words: lightEN up, fellas.


How is it assholery to politely ask for LE credentials & statement of probable cause? Is it because most of them struggle with the comprehension of polysyllabic words & any concept of integrity & courtesy?

You generally seem like an okay guy, so your 2nd point surprises me. It's as if you can't refute the salient points of refusing to be treated like a 2nd class citizen or being accosted in a manner that would constitute assault, battery &/or unlawful detention/kidnapping should we do the same to another person, so you instead decide to denigrate & obfuscate by casting aspersions on the character of those who are sick of that shit. If you can't convince a door-greeter or 'loss prevention agent' of the error of their ways when they put their hands on you under the color of their illegitimate authority, God help you when a real live bad guy comes for your possessions or your life. Since the USSC has ruled that the po-po have no duty to protect you, if you have failed to train & prepare for such, you have failed yourself & your loved ones & may as well go ahead & bend the knee now.
 
I knew that, Billy ;) I've had to deal with the double standard at first hand my entire life & it infuriates me when some on here (not you) seem to think we should continue to meekly accept that.

Putting hands on someone is a no brainer, regardless of the circumstances, but the notion that I should shut up & accept my status as a 2nd class citizen gets my back up with a quickness. I treat everyone with the same level of courtesy & respect that they show towards me & it's their call which way that goes.
 
Nah, they have to command at least some modicum of respect to rise from beneath my contempt, in order to earn that distinction. Knee-benders & those who demand I respect their authoritah will never rise to that level.



How is it assholery to politely ask for LE credentials & statement of probable cause? Is it because most of them struggle with the comprehension of polysyllabic words & any concept of integrity & courtesy?

You generally seem like an okay guy, so your 2nd point surprises me. It's as if you can't refute the salient points of refusing to be treated like a 2nd class citizen or being accosted in a manner that would constitute assault, battery &/or unlawful detention/kidnapping should we do the same to another person, so you instead decide to denigrate & obfuscate by casting aspersions on the character of those who are sick of that shit. If you can't convince a door-greeter or 'loss prevention agent' of the error of their ways when they put their hands on you under the color of their illegitimate authority, God help you when a real live bad guy comes for your possessions or your life. Since the USSC has ruled that the po-po have no duty to protect you, if you have failed to train & prepare for such, you have failed yourself & your loved ones & may as well go ahead & bend the knee now.
I'm right there with most everyone else's sentiment in this thread that these door stop-and-nearly-frisks are royally annoying. Where I depart the thought train tracks is in trying to be (what seems like) overly sarcastic and slightly combative toward people who did not mean to project combativeness or rights infringement upon you. I'm all for the funny little joke of giving the cashier a birth date of 7-4-76 when I buy bullets or spray paint--no one was made to feel like a fool for some asshat store manager's dumb directive.

Of course, all of my contrary commentary here is based upon my overwhelmingly positive interactions with "door greeters." Never have I had one make me feel like a shoplifting punk.

Regardless of all of this, my post was intended as a splash of cold water in everyone's face to back away from the screen and realize some are getting at others' throats over this silly topic.

...and to be clear: while my #2 was meant to be a poke at some folks who *come across* as tactical hand combat ninjas, I do support the notion of bending one's joints in an inappropriate direction if they lay hands on me.
 
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They’ve tried to stop me a handful of times at WM. I just keep walking, smile, and say “no thanks”.

If they ever want to press the issue, they can follow me to my car, get my plate, call the police, and go from there. I realize it’s their job but it’s incredibly useless. If I stop and openly show you my goods, I’m not your concern. But they can’t forcefully stop anyone if they don’t have proof of theft and using any force is always risky. So they’re in a catch 22.

Love the Ron Swanson permit idea!:D
 
I don't see anybody in here getting terribly bent out of shape, just folks not conceding to a useless display of authority that isn't even legit in any context. Of course, there are always those that will fall before any boots, or in this case even black orthotic velcro strap Reeboks.

If it doesn't bother you to be treated like a thief while an actual shoplifter walks by you while the greeter is checking your bag, good on you. I'm happy that you are willing to saddle yet another yoke lowered onto the overburdened working class citizen just trying to do the right thing, while, yet again, the criminal scum of this earth get by with even more in the name of whatever dumb@ss liberal, bleeding heart idea excuses their poor behavior.
 
Mayfield's Ice Cream is at Publix and some Ingle's stores too.

...also...

Whenever I've been stopped by a greeter I just start screaming about "my diarrhea" and they let me go.
 
I too prefer the automotive or sporting goods to checkout for quick stuff, very close to tire entrance where I park.
 
Not trying to single you out, and I say this to all who have expressed this notion: while I am not the type to show my ass by default when dealing with the public, I agree that it's treating me like I thief and I am offended by this act. I know it's a theatrical display made in the hopes of discouraging the real thieves, which it won't. Coupled with the fact that the stores won't do anything about the real theft problem, it doubly compounds my annoyance with being treated this way. To put the topper on it, I end up paying higher prices for the inaction of dealing with real thieves.

So, I get treated like a thief and pay the consequences because the store is too chicken dung to actually stop the thieves.
Exactly
 
I don't see anybody in here getting terribly bent out of shape, just folks not conceding to a useless display of authority that isn't even legit in any context. Of course, there are always those that will fall before any boots, or in this case even black orthotic velcro strap Reeboks.

If it doesn't bother you to be treated like a thief while an actual shoplifter walks by you while the greeter is checking your bag, good on you. I'm happy that you are willing to saddle yet another yoke lowered onto the overburdened working class citizen just trying to do the right thing, while, yet again, the criminal scum of this earth get by with even more in the name of whatever dumb@ss liberal, bleeding heart idea excuses their poor behavior.
Exactly
 
Here's a modest suggestion for those who get their dander up at the receipt checkers:
  • Refuse to hand over your receipt;
  • Demand to talk to the store manager - now;
  • Tell the store manager in no uncertain terms that you will not hand over your receipt;
  • Invite the store manager to summon the police and even offer to make the call;
  • Call the police yourself if the store manager gives any indication that you are not free to leave the store;
  • Leave the store.
All of the above steps are absolutely consistent with not submitting to -and actively challenging- bogus authority. What's more, your anger and frustration will not be wasted on somebody just trying to get through their workday and who could not change anything if they wanted to do so. Instead, you will at least be voicing your concerns to someone -the store manager- who might possibly be able to act on your concerns.
 
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I have to shop. Now I have to scan. Next I gotta bag my shit. Now I have to the GD door police check me for thief. And I have watchers at the check out center looking at my moves. Well it was easier when they just trusted the cashier they don’t want to pay a check anymore. All the while people walk out with stuff tucked in their panties and go on by.
 
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Meh...I don't have a problem with the greeters checking receipts. Whatever.

HOWEVER...I do admit to occasionally trying to upset the cart with respect to "no merchandise in the restrooms" by stopping in the restroom on the way out with bags in my hands.

Anybody who would point out the "no merchandise" policy to me would be reminded that no "merchandise" actually entered their restroom..."private property", yes, but no "merchandise".
 
BY THE WAY...

Odds are the greeters are there just for the following:

- "Greeters" put a face on the company, which is, overall, a good thing for business.

- "Greeters" provide a nominal, though token, front with respect to theft prevention. They won't stop everybody, but undoubtedly it does deter a few.

- "Greeters" used in such a fashion MAY provide something of an insurance break in the same fashion that unarmed security is hired on at factories and such with respect to offsetting their insurance costs.

If the greeters are polite, then I'm polite.

If the greeters are backing up a line of people exiting, I'll go around...and I'll KEEP going around in such an instance if called to stop. That's because I don't consider it polite, or good business, to hold up a line of people exiting.
 
I haven't had a Walmart door greeter try to check my receipt in 10 years. Am I really that scary?
 
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I hear a lot of bitching about how yall are being violated by them checking your receipt. JUST DON'T GO TO STORES THAT DO IT!!

It's their store and as long as you go there you play by their rules.

I see it a lot on here " I will never shop at XYZ store because they are posted for guns! FREEDOM!!" Well you can do the same with Walmart. But most will not because you know that they have the cheapest prices, most convenient one stop shopping, closest location, it's where my wife/ husband wants to shop... whatever the justification.

I have store I will not go to. Normally because I felt they gave bad service or knowing did me wrong. And because of that I have to drive further and/ or spend more money. But that is the cost of me protesting the store. I don't just bitch about it and then turn around and go back just so I can bitch about it more. Some folks say " I only go 1-2 times a year." and yet you know how it was the last time you went, so why should it be different now?

I am all for standing up to protest a business. Call the manager, call the corp. headquarters, post on FB.... whatever. But to keep using a store that you feel is treating you badly and then just whine about it???
 
I hear a lot of bitching about how yall are being violated by them checking your receipt. JUST DON'T GO TO STORES THAT DO IT!!

It's their store and as long as you go there you play by their rules.

I see it a lot on here " I will never shop at XYZ store because they are posted for guns! FREEDOM!!" Well you can do the same with Walmart. But most will not because you know that they have the cheapest prices, most convenient one stop shopping, closest location, it's where my wife/ husband wants to shop... whatever the justification.

I have store I will not go to. Normally because I felt they gave bad service or knowing did me wrong. And because of that I have to drive further and/ or spend more money. But that is the cost of me protesting the store. I don't just bitch about it and then turn around and go back just so I can bitch about it more. Some folks say " I only go 1-2 times a year." and yet you know how it was the last time you went, so why should it be different now?

I am all for standing up to protest a business. Call the manager, call the corp. headquarters, post on FB.... whatever. But to keep using a store that you feel is treating you badly and then just whine about it???

It isn't a rule; it's just some half-assed loss prevention measure that they don't actually enforce. Hell, mine only has a checker 20% of the time, and they've never once stopped me. Once Walmart post rules on the window about everybody going through the checker (and not just the normal folks that look safe enough to hassle instead of actual thieves) I might would consent. If at any point, I was told I had to go through a checker after the fact, I would happily return every last item right then and there.
 
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It isn't a rule; it's just some half-assed loss prevention measure that they don't actually enforce. Hell, mine only has a checker 20% of the time, and they've never once stopped me. Once Walmart post rules on the window about everybody going through the checker (and not just the normal folks that look safe enough to hassle instead of actual thieves) I might would consent. If at any point, I was told I had to go through a checker after the fact, I would happily return every last item right then and there.

So now that you know that you might be ask to stop and show your receipt, does that mean you will not be going back to Walmart, Lowes, Sam's....
 
So now that you know that you might be ask to stop and show your receipt, does that mean you will not be going back to Walmart, Lowes, Sam's....

Well, since there are no "rules" posted and I apparently fall into one of the "do not screw with" profiles (because profiling is how they decide who to ask), it's apparently against the rules to check my receipt, so sure, I'll go to Walmart. Never seen one at Lowes, never been in a Sam's.

See how asinine that all was? When it's not a specified rule, has no enforcement, isn't reinforced by actual LEO or even paid security, is based on profiling (so as to only harass normal looking folks), is only present sometimes, and isn't even applied to actual thieves who can decline said search, it really isn't anything but the window dressing of loss prevention.

Imagine if you bought a shotgun from my wife inside my house while I watched, but before you stepped out of the door, I asked for verification that you actually paid her, and instead, you told me to "piss up a rope", and I smiled and said, "have a good day, sir" as you flipped me off and walked out the door to absolutely no consequence. This is receipt checking. It's a Mobius strip of asinine and arbitrary to the nth degree of Kafka-esque surrealism.
 
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Well, since there are no "rules" posted and I apparently fall into one of the "do not screw with" profiles (because profiling is how they decide who to ask), it's apparently against the rules to check my receipt, so sure, I'll go to Walmart. Never seen one at Lowes, never been in a Sam's.

See how asinine that all was? When it's not a specified rule, has no enforcement, isn't reinforced by actual LEO or even paid security, is based on profiling (so as to only harass normal looking folks), is only present sometimes, and isn't even applied to actual thieves who can decline said search, it really isn't anything but the window dressing of loss prevention.

Imagine if you bought a shotgun from my wife inside my house while I watched, but before you stepped out of the door, I asked for verification that you actually paid her, and instead, you told me to "piss up a rope", and I smiled and said, "have a good day, sir" as you flipped me off and walked out the door to absolutely no consequence. This is receipt checking. It's a Mobius strip of asinine and arbitrary to the nth degree of Kafka-esque surrealism.

It's just a greeter...and it's just a receipt.

Out of all the things in life to get hyped up about, this ranks pretty low when you think about it.
 
It's just a greeter...and it's just a receipt.

Out of all the things in life to get hyped up about, this ranks pretty low when you think about it.

Happy for you. I've been happy to ignore them until this thread, where it seems more folks are worked up by the fact that some of us simply walk out the doors of a retail establishment after purchasing our items.
 
I am amazed at what many people here feel is a threat to their pursuit of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Think about a few facts before getting bent out of shape.
1) The "greeter" is usually a senior citizen. Think about it, if they wanted to stop thieves, they would have young, burly guys "patrolling" the exits.
2) They are not there to catch thieves. It is well known that employees (esp senior citizens) are not supposed to confront thieves for insurance reasons.
Yes, they have specific LP people who watch out for "organized" theft. They aren't the retired "greeters".
3) The reason they check receipts is to not accuse you of stealing, it is to make sure the cashier did not miss anything, usually on the bottom of the cart.
Cashiers are taught "Think BOB". Think Bottom of the Basket (BOB). If we are busy and/or distracted, we may forget to put up that case of beer, litter, bleach, bag of dog food, etc.
If the cashier is busy (long lines, too long for a break, etc) she may forget to check the BOB. We may forget. Some may purposely "forget" and hope the cashier misses it.
The greeters aren't there to stop thieves (they aren't trained for that). They are there to catch mistakes.
4) They are just doing a job they hate to supplement their Social Security income. Do you think they'd be there if they didn't need the money?

So, to sum it up; the "greeter" is there to watch the cashier, not you. Your feeling of being persecuted is way out of line.
If you feel that because the cashier missed that TV and you forgot to put it on the belt that you are entitled to it, then you are a thief.
Yeah, if you have unbagged stuff, especially in the bottom of your basket, or a flat screen TV, expect to be checked. Otherwise, order it online.
Some people just need to get over themselves.
 
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