Can I like thus again!!!!?I don’t have a crystal ball to see what will come. So before I get into the “we are going to war in the Middle East again”, I am going step back and see how it plays out. The man is the same that was responsible for the marine barracks that were bombed in the early 80’s, he is behind the recent embassy attack. I heard the Secretary of State saying that this was to sideline an imminent attack that they had intelligence for that he was planning. I for one am glad he is in front of his maker.
After the USS Cole, or the World Trade Center truck bombings if we would have eliminated Bin Laden a lot of deaths around the world (and New York), could have been prevented. Many always fault leadership for not eliminating a terrorist when we have them in our sights, same ones fault us for doing when we have the chance. We did not just cause Iran to declare war on us, they did that decades ago.
At least we aren’t giving them pallets of money.
Sure thing. But now they have a coin with his head on it.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...n-coin-following-us-embassy-move-to-jerusalem
We're certainly continuing to fight Israel's wars for them pretty effectively.
The military industrial complex ain't gonna fund itself!It means a new generation of jihadists...
Go back to when we overthrew their government.In case no one has been watching, we have been at war with Iran since the 1970s! When they took over our Embassy and Carter did nothing, it emboldened them to continuously try to play chicken with the US. They've had their hand in almost every terrorist activity that's been committed for the last 45 or so years! If we don't quit stomping on the ants as they look for mischief and start killing the head cheeses, this will go on forever! They send their minions out to do the dirty work and when they get smacked, no big deal. Start smacking the planners, the department heads, the heads of state that approve this terrorist activity and they'll eventually get the message!
We definitely 'support' Israel, whether through money, hardware, or in some cases human assets, but would hardly call that fighting their wars. We do this with every ally and Israel is by far one of our most strategic among them.
Just wait til it comes out how wired that new "embassy" is into the Mossad's surveillance network
They'll come up with another way to blackmail globalists if they haven't already.They have to move the pedo island operation somewhere...
Meanwhile... Apparently, we've just had a major escalation with Iran. This is an opinion piece, but explained a lot for me.
The U.S. killing of Qassim Soleimani In Baghdad on Thursday ends an enduring threat. At least in the short term, however, it will unleash Iranian retaliation. The leader of the external action arm of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Soleimani long led that regime's efforts to destroy its enemies and expand its revolution.
From an explosive campaign which killed hundreds of American soldiers in Iraq, to supporting Bashar Assad's regime with legions of Shia fighters and IRGC operatives, to conducting a campaign of bombings and assassinations and intimidation across the globe, Soleimani was a master of his very dark arts. He was a serious and continuing threat to American lives and interests. Indeed, Soleimani masterminded a failed 2011 plot to blow up the then-Saudi Ambassador and dozens of diners in a Washington, D.C. restaurant.
Still, Soleimani's killing, apparently alongside Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the Kata'ib Hezbollah leader responsible for recent rocket attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq, is striking. Trump might call it justice for this week's attack on the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, or the recent killing of a U.S. contractor in Iraq, or an act to disrupt Soleimani's plotting against America. Regardless, it illustrates a major strategic escalation in President Trump's Iran policy. Soleimani's standing in Iran and the IRGC in particular makes President Bush's 2008 killing of top Lebanese Hezbollah leader Imad Mughniyeh seem irrelevant in comparison. This is a very big deal.
Trump's shift here is hard to overestimate. Until now, Trump had been keen to keep avenues of diplomatic intercourse open towards Iran. Trump had avoided direct military retaliation against Iran even after it downed a U.S. drone last summer. But this killing slams the door on diplomacy in a most public way. Soleimani was a hero of the revolution and will now be regarded as an heir to Husayn ibn Ali, the martyr of Shia martyrs. Revenge will now rise to the very top of Iran's agenda. A global terrorist campaign of uncertain duration is likely. In the context of Iranian domestic political instability and deep economic pressures on the regime, Iran might also use this killing as an excuse to destabilize oil flows through the Strait of Hormuz. Each of those developments would require immediate American deterrent response.
This will also cause short term strife for American political interests in Iraq. Soleimani and al-Muhandis represented a powerful bloc of Iranian aligned interests. But a bloc that was under growing pressure. They'll now seek to unify erstwhile competitors such as Muqtada al-Sadr into punishing America for what has occurred.
Ultimately, however, the U.S. holds the cards here.
If it is willing to tolerate some U.S. casualties, the Trump administration can effectively out-escalate Ayatollah Khamenei's regime and force it into backing down. But while lives have likely been saved by Soleimani's departure, the near term future next won't be pretty.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/what-qassim-soleimanis-killing-means
In case no one has been watching, we have been at war with Iran since the 1970s!
It means a new generation of jihadists...
back to war we go...
Was the attack justified....probably....but oh those pesky “unintended consequences”
wait... when did we stop?
I missed that.
When have we ever not been at war with someone?
These countries in the Middle East are never going to be stable nor cease the violence. Time is on their side. If it takes 100 years they are going to continue until they unite into one nation of power. That has always been the goal. Divided they cannot seek ruling the world under Islam.
Those goat humpers have been fighting each other since time begin, they will continue to fight each other when time ends.
The military industrial complex ain't gonna fund itself!
Taxpayer money with a massive debt is more important to politicians as they get massive contributions from defense contractors and oil companies.
OK. That's why they didn't exist until the 1940s. Where did they all come from? How was that country founded and funded? Israel is the #1 why we are at war in the Middle East, period.
Petroleum is a distant second. Neocons, Globalists, Bankers and Zionists are in lockstep, and business is good.
This is not the proper place to elaborate on the intricate history you question, but one does not need to guess the answer. Historians have done the work for us. and I dont think there is a single credible source, historian, security expert, military expert or similar that would arrive at the conclusion that Israel is #1 reason we are at war in the Middle East. Sounds like typical conspiracy fodder. I am in no way saying you are trying to perpetuate conspiratorial uttering, but that you may want to read up a bit more on the matter because the sources you learned from steered ya down a weird path.
I think you may want to read some on the populating of lower Syria, the agreement after the war as to numbers allowed, and the expansion of taking territories since.This is not the proper place to elaborate on the intricate history you question, but one does not need to guess the answer. Historians have done the work for us. and I dont think there is a single credible source, historian, security expert, military expert or similar that would arrive at the conclusion that Israel is #1 reason we are at war in the Middle East. Sounds like typical conspiracy fodder. I am in no way saying you are trying to perpetuate conspiratorial uttering, but that you may want to read up a bit more on the matter because the sources you learned from steered ya down a weird path.
Just curious:In a lengthy Twitter thread, Agnès Callamard said that “outside the context of active hostilities, the use of drones or other means for targeted killing is almost never likely to be legal,”
(1) So what is the largest cause of unrest and (2) subsequent us intervention
BHO could do no wrong in the eyes of the UNJust curious:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/23/us-justification-drone-killing-american-citizen-awlaki
Was she as vocal in her legal interpretation of targeted drone strikes for killing people in other countries back in 2011?
"Lawyers for the Obama administration, arguing for their ability to kill an American citizen without trial in Yemen, contended that the protection of US citizenship was effectively removed by a key congressional act that blessed a global war against al-Qaida."
In the simplest way without further derailing thread...
(1) Intra-social and inter-regional disparity in a part of the world with lowest educational attainment and low variability of natural resources. The Middle East been a pile of useless violent turd since lonnngg before USA existed, much less Israel.
(2) Americas foreign policy on [at least] both strength projection and conflict escalation
And vice versaWhile this is true, anyone who claims the USA is not fulfilling its role as the foreign policy dept of the Knesset is not paying attention.
I really enjoyed this podcast http://www.martyrmade.com/fear-loathing-in-the-new-jerusalem/This is not the proper place to elaborate on the intricate history you question, but one does not need to guess the answer. Historians have done the work for us. and I don't think there is a single credible source, historian, security expert, military expert or similar that would arrive at the conclusion that Israel is #1 reason we are at war in the Middle East. Sounds like typical conspiracy fodder. I am in no way saying you are trying to perpetuate conspiratorial uttering, but that you may want to read up a bit more on the matter because the sources you learned from steered ya down a weird path.
Shia versus Sunni and both against infidels.So what is the largest cause of unrest and subsequent us intervention
worked out so well in Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan (first for the USSR and then for the US). Glad those are resolved quickly and without mercyWell then there is the old saw about why are we fighting wars in shit hole countries? So we dont have to fight wars here. Take the fight to them, quickly and without mercy.
Why is our so-called "best ally" hiding Ghislaine Maxwell who helped pimp out so many young American women? Could it be that Epstein and her were Mossad assets, just like Ghislaine's father?They have to move the pedo island operation somewhere...
Most Americans don't have any idea how powerful AIPAC is. Russia buys $200k of Facebook ads and the Dems go berserk for 3+ years. AIPAC owns Congress for decades and . . . :crickets:.While this is true, anyone who claims the USA is not fulfilling its role as the foreign policy dept of the Knesset is not paying attention.
While this is true, anyone who claims the USA is not fulfilling its role as the foreign policy dept of the Knesset is not paying attention.
Was the attack justified....probably....but oh those pesky “unintended consequences”
Now they are playing the Benghazi game, fact is Trump was at the White House and made the decision, while World Famous JV ex POTUS BHO was in Vegas fundraising and Zero for Two Pant Suit lied about Sid Bluemthal running guns out of Benghazi.
worked out so well in Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan (first for the USSR and then for the US). Glad those are resolved quickly and without mercy
Lawdy! 'magine if he'd give it a half hour!!I can't help but wonder what the "unintended consequences" of no action would have been. I think we've seen the consequences of sanctions.
According the the left, Trump interrupted his golfing for 3 minutes to order the attack.