Big pharma... again..... this time Corona.

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With the infection rate running wild and doctors in China who say "the state is lying about the numbers"... and newly constructed hospitals frantically hiding dead bodies they don't have time to cremate, it is understandable that pharmas are engaging in a frenetic rush to discover a vaccine or a cure for this thing.....

Problem is, it already exists. Bigger problem is... THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS SUPPRESSION OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF ITS EXISTENCE. Because bots read these reports and censor them or bury them on obscure web pages when they refer to natural remedies, you need to click here for the identity of the cure. Otherwise an online search would have been unlikely to find this this report, which is an article in LANCET.

Treatment of SARS was found in an astoundingly simple and common compound FOUND IN NATURE. Glycyrrhizin, obtained from the root of the liquorice plant, absolutely IMMUNIZED large sectors of the populace, and was extremely effective in treating those already infected. Turns out that CORONA is affected the same way as the transmission of the two diseases is similar. Initial results are quite impressive.

So, with this the case, why are almost all the links to THIS article https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(03)13615-X/fulltext#fig1 suppressed? Don't believe me? Try googling it yourself, using the topics in the article itself.

There is BIG BIG BIG money at stake here.

I have become convinced that the heart of big pharma (unlike many of the employees, contractors and third party distributors) are completely fixated on convincing government that they are the only "cure" for stuff that is SCARING THE PANTS OFF FOLKS, and wrangling that river of money into state sponsored and mandatory (when possible) vaccinations. It is an orchestrated, deliberate, and at times, diabolical effort to meld the tax revenues of the USA into their business plan.

WHO, CDC and CEPI are business hit squads masquerading as public interest entities. Look at this Lew Rockwell article https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/02/bill-sardi/here-is-the-cure-for-2019-ncor-coronavirus/ for an intro

This is the ugly stepchild of Medicare/Medicaid and socialized medicine. I once asked my cousin by marriage -who is regional sales director for a large pharmaceutical company- what percentage of his sales revenue came from government moneys. He did not hesitate but stated quickly "between 80 to 90 per cent." This is a GOOD guy, too. Sincere, ethical, hard working and honest. I will never look at his very nice home in the same way, though.

Socialism promises grand and glorious results, but delivers the utter corruption of everything it touches.
 
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Governments indeed do purchase large quantities of medical products around the world. There are a few companies looking to cure people rather than keep them on a financial hook for treatment, but the costs are enormous to perform gene therapies. All aspects of healthcare are to generate funding under the guise of doing things for the betterment of people.
 
I think this is the first time I've seen big pharma called socialism.
 
Interesting, I loved chewing on licorice root as a kid. In Paris during the mid ‘70’s it was found in the pharmacies, not the candy or spice sellers.
 
I've not thought of big pharma as socialism either, but from what I know of big pharma there is definitely a deep dark side. Bigger and darker than even Monsanto. Wait, didn't Bayer just buy Monsanto?
 
As best I understand this from the abstract, you would have to basically flood your body with the stuff for it to be effective. It's still cytotoxic.
It's kind of like those people who think drinking bleach will cure something because bleach kills EVERYTHING.

No one's suppressing this information. It's been on Pubmed (which any college student having any sort of class about biology, health, or science knows- I used it myself as a student for all my papers) since 2003, and it's cited by over 700 other studies.

Could be there's an eventual cure using licorice root or understanding how it acts, but it's not as if you can eat 10 pounds of licorice whips and assume you're vaccinated against SARS. If you really believe that, I'll pitch in for a plane ticket so you can head to Wuhan.

MadaCide wipes, which are used in pretty much every medical building also kills SARS, TB, Hepatitis, Flu, and HIV. Technically they cure SARS, if you flood your body with the juice from the bottom of the canister. They'll also kill you.

Lots of metals are oligodyanmic and kill bacteria and viruses. There are studies showing silver kills HIV. Doesn't mean you can just grind it up and eat it. Heavy metal poisoning is a thing.

tanstaafl72555 said:
Glycyrrhizin, obtained from the root of the liquorice plant, absolutely IMMUNIZED large sectors of the populace, and was extremely effective in treating those already infected.
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Immunized? So now it not only destroys SARS, but teaches your cells how to resist it?
Do you have a source for this? Where is this large group of people who are now immune?
 
charliesgrave said:
As best I understand this from the abstract, you would have to basically flood your body with the stuff for it to be effective. It's still cytotoxic.
It's kind of like those people who think drinking bleach will cure something because bleach kills EVERYTHING.

No one's suppressing this information. It's been on Pubmed (which any college student having any sort of class about biology, health, or science knows- I used it myself as a student for all my papers) since 2003, and it's cited by over 700 other studies.

Could be there's an eventual cure using licorice root or understanding how it acts, but it's not as if you can eat 10 pounds of licorice whips and assume you're vaccinated against SARS. If you really believe that, I'll pitch in for a plane ticket so you can head to Wuhan.

MadaCide wipes, which are used in pretty much every medical building also kills SARS, TB, Hepatitis, Flu, and HIV. Technically they cure SARS, if you flood your body with the juice from the bottom of the canister. They'll also kill you.

Lots of metals are oligodyanmic and kill bacteria and viruses. There are studies showing silver kills HIV. Doesn't mean you can just grind it up and eat it. Heavy metal poisoning is a thing.


Immunized? So now it not only destroys SARS, but teaches your cells how to resist it?
Do you have a source for this? Where is this large group of people who are now immune?
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"The EC50 reported by these authors for glycyrrhizin was 316–625 mg/L (added twice during the incubation period of 7 days)"

Doesn't look like flood levels to me. Second line of the study in LANCET
 
tanstaafl72555 said:
"The EC50 reported by these authors for glycyrrhizin was 316–625 mg/L (added twice during the incubation period of 7 days)"

Doesn't look like flood levels to me. Second line of the study in LANCET
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These are results on cell cultures.
Not given to people as injections or orally. Not simply a 625mg tablet. Or 625mg amount of glycyrrhizin suspension you can spoon into your kids mouth like Robutussin.
They did it in a petri dish. Lots of things will kill SARS in this setting. It's not as easy determining how, why, or how to effectively make a medication from it.

On one hand, you say there's this wonder cure being suppressed.

On the other that "BiG PhArMa" is the one suppressing it, because they stand to lose money.

Wouldn't they stand to make money if the cure is so simplistic? Shouldn't they be cranking out expensive bags of Good & Plenty and having Uncle Sam foot the bill?
 
So...basically, big pharma has decided to suppress the cure for a disease so it can kill thousands of people and they can then come out and sell us this cure at a later date at an inflated cost. Rather than releasing it now and selling it across the world as a preventative and making stacks of cash based on the panic that it has already caused...
 
charliesgrave said:
On one hand, you say there's this wonder cure being suppressed.
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Not at all. If you want an argument to be given even handed respect and consideration, don't misrepresent what you are arguing against. I am saying the study indicates extremely positive results using an extract from the root. Better, in fact than the synthesized vax results and with less side effects. This is the norm with drugs/treatments found in nature. Pharmas cannot make money off these because they can't patent them. They have teams of pr people dedicated to "protecting" us from using these natural treatments, by prosecuting people for making "false" claims for their effectiveness. For example, I had a friend (Anita Collins, RIP) who was in the terminal stages of breast cancer. She got a lead on some quack medicine guy and started taking pretty massive doses of ground up apricot seeds. Her cancer immediately went into remission and she lived several more years. The FDA just harrassed the crap out of the guy who was pushing this, even though he stood to make no money from it.

charliesgrave said:
On the other that "BiG PhArMa" is the one suppressing it, because they stand to lose money. Wouldn't they stand to make money if the cure is so simplistic? Shouldn't they be cranking out expensive bags of Good & Plenty and having Uncle Sam foot the bill?
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because they don't own the patent on good n plentys. even if what I was proposing was that ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
 
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B00ger said:
So...basically, big pharma has decided to suppress the cure for a disease so it can kill thousands of people and they can then come out and sell us this cure at a later date at an inflated cost. Rather than releasing it now and selling it across the world as a preventative and making stacks of cash based on the panic that it has already caused...
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No. It is that simple, but not that ridiculous. They cannot patent a plant.
 
charliesgrave said:
These are results on cell cultures.
Not given to people as injections or orally. Not simply a 625mg tablet. Or 625mg amount of glycyrrhizin suspension you can spoon into your kids mouth like Robutussin.
They did it in a petri dish. Lots of things will kill SARS in this setting. It's not as easy determining how, why, or how to effectively make a medication from it.

On one hand, you say there's this wonder cure being suppressed.

On the other that "BiG PhArMa" is the one suppressing it, because they stand to lose money.

Wouldn't they stand to make money if the cure is so simplistic? Shouldn't they be cranking out expensive bags of Good & Plenty and having Uncle Sam foot the bill?
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These are concentrations, not quantities. no one mentions 625 mg. Rather it is 625 mg per liter. If you want to tell me that this concentration (which is 1/2 the effective concentration, btw), had to be dumped into the petri dishes at levels of 320 gallons per minute (hey, you were the one bringing up fantastic scenarios.... i am just jumping on board), then I will say "yes, the water levels themselves are toxic."
 
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Just another study that is out there. This https://aac.asm.org/content/41/3/551.short references treatment of a number of influenza type viruses using Glycyrrhizin using 10 mg per kg of body weight. Hardly toxic concentrations. Vibrant results.

So, why are the companies ignoring those avenues as viable paths to treatment of virally passed diseases? That is a legit question, and all the mocking sneering and "you are a tin foil hat idiot" responses won't address that question.
 
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tanstaafl72555 said:
With the infection rate running wild and doctors in China who say "the state is lying about the numbers"... and newly constructed hospitals frantically hiding dead bodies they don't have time to cremate, it is understandable that pharmas are engaging in a frenetic rush to discover a vaccine or a cure for this thing.....

Problem is, it already exists. Bigger problem is... THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS SUPPRESSION OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF ITS EXISTENCE. Because bots read these reports and censor them or bury them on obscure web pages when they refer to natural remedies, you need to click here for the identity of the cure. Otherwise an online search would have been unlikely to find this this report, which is an article in LANCET.

Treatment of SARS was found in an astoundingly simple and common compound FOUND IN NATURE. Glycyrrhizin, obtained from the root of the liquorice plant, absolutely IMMUNIZED large sectors of the populace, and was extremely effective in treating those already infected. Turns out that CORONA is affected the same way as the transmission of the two diseases is similar. Initial results are quite impressive.

So, with this the case, why are almost all the links to THIS article https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(03)13615-X/fulltext#fig1 suppressed? Don't believe me? Try googling it yourself, using the topics in the article itself.

There is BIG BIG BIG money at stake here.

I have become convinced that the heart of big pharma (unlike many of the employees, contractors and third party distributors) are completely fixated on convincing government that they are the only "cure" for stuff that is SCARING THE PANTS OFF FOLKS, and wrangling that river of money into state sponsored and mandatory (when possible) vaccinations. It is an orchestrated, deliberate, and at times, diabolical effort to meld the tax revenues of the USA into their business plan.

WHO, CDC and CEPI are business hit squads masquerading as public interest entities. Look at this Lew Rockwell article https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/02/bill-sardi/here-is-the-cure-for-2019-ncor-coronavirus/ for an intro

This is the ugly stepchild of Medicare/Medicaid and socialized medicine. I once asked my cousin by marriage -who is regional sales director for a large pharmaceutical company- what percentage of his sales revenue came from government moneys. He did not hesitate but stated quickly "between 80 to 90 per cent." This is a GOOD guy, too. Sincere, ethical, hard working and honest. I will never look at his very nice home in the same way, though.

Socialism promises grand and glorious results, but delivers the utter corruption of everything it touches.
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Do shots of Jaeger count as licorice?
 
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I am chuckling here. I feel like you guys must think I am as cranially vacant as that elevator operator in "Brave New World" with NO idea what tox levels are, and so mentally deficient that I think chewing on a licorice root will give total immunity, and that any attempts to rig the flow of gov funds are so transparent that my 9 year old grand daughter could spot them. I mean, the responses here assume that I am a total blithering idiot who needs my WAZE to find the way back home every day! :)

For the record, I don't think you can attain immunity by eating a bag of licorice.

ROOF!!!! (smiling joyously)
 
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tanstaafl72555 said:
Sure. you knew what you were looking for. I typed in "natural cure for Corona virus using licorice root"

Here is what I got:

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,3&q=natural+cure+for+corona+using+licorice+root&btnG=
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Well, you are stacking the deck *against* finding the article, which does not use "natural"or "cure". You also use the Americanized spelling "licorice" rather than the paper's "liquorice." Here is the first result I got for searching simply "liquorice coronavirus". Conspiracies in science are hard. There are too many counter-incentives. EDIT: the article title does contain "root".

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We don't think you are "cranially vacant"...most of us just question why the man that has figured out the end of the US financially and politically, the need to vaccinate as a complete hoax, and now coronavirus having a cure all being hidden from the people is still hanging around with us knuckle dragging Neanderthals on a 2A page.
 
Don't go raining all over his perfectly good conspiracy theory.

The truth is, while most front line people, doctors, nurses, researchers, have a genuine interest in helping others, the corporations are there to make money. Unfortunately, big pharma, hospitals and the like, make their money off of illness.

Had a friend whose wife was an OB/GYN. We we're talking about money and he said his wife wasn't doing too well. He said she had a good base of patients, but her practice was too healthy. So, she effectively didn't have much actual business at the time.

Big pharma, hospitals and pawn shops for that matter, live off the misery of others.
 
dkmatthews said:
Start pouring the Ouzo!

Opa!!!
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Not to be that guy, but that is Anise.

That said, anethole, the compound responsible for the flavor, is well known for its antimicrobial properties, has been researched for use in antifouling and antifungal properties, as well as some bizarre commercial applications.

(apologies, anethole was a topic of one of my research papers)
 
premise said:
Not to be that guy, but that is Anise.

That said, anethole, the compound responsible for the flavor, is well known for its antimicrobial properties, has been researched for use in antifouling and antifungal properties, as well as some bizarre commercial applications.

(apologies, anethole was a topic of one of my research papers)
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Hey, in this time of self identification, you can be whoever you want. I'll still be raising a glass of Ouzo with @georgel !
 
premise said:
Not to be that guy, but that is Anise.

That said, anethole, the compound responsible for the flavor, is well known for its antimicrobial properties, has been researched for use in antifouling and antifungal properties, as well as some bizarre commercial applications.

(apologies, anethole was a topic of one of my research papers)
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Heh heh heh...he said "anus"....

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What if the real cure is drinking Corona beer with a lime in it, and this is all really just a marketing ploy by a secret conglomerate of micro-breweries who are trying to further push the big names out of the way. Hence...they name it "CORONA VIRUS" to make people attribute Corona beer with a virus...especially with the summer coming up soon...
 
B00ger said:
What if the real cure is drinking Corona beer with a lime in it, and this is all really just a marketing ploy by a secret conglomerate of micro-breweries who are trying to further push the big names out of the way. Hence...they name it "CORONA VIRUS" to make people attribute Corona beer with a virus...especially with the summer coming up soon...
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You started early tonight, didn't you? With the drinking... :D
 
georgel said:
You started early tonight, didn't you? With the drinking... :D
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Believe it or not, I don’t drink...I’m just naturally weird


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CZfool68 said:
Evil banker. Don’t trust this man. He probably boils small children and burns tires for fun just to ruin the environment. :p
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No...I boil tires and burn small children...get it right


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