Boy Scouts of America has filed Chapter 11

I loved being a Boy Scout, but now I have two daughters and no sons.

My wife became the local Girl Scout Troop Leader. I got background checked, and have done several certification trainings with the girl scouts.

Since I enjoyed being a Medic in the military I have taken the Girl Scout classes to be the troop medic. I go on campouts with my wife, my daughters, and about 30 other girls.

I make it a point to teach the girls to do "guy stuff" like building campfires, pitching tents, chopping firewood, etc. My wife likes teaching the girls to cook, clean up, etc.

We had a girl scout meeting tonight. This was the 4th meeting in a row where I brought my own wood working tools and have been teaching the girls to use a miter box, screw driver, hammer, etc. and tonight the 4 oldest girls built bird houses to earn their wood working badge.

Girl scouts is no where near as cool as boy scouts was, but I know that I'm making a difference and helping these girls learn life skills.

Im seriously thinking about showing them how to change a tire next month...


You are making Girl Scouts way cooler than the average troop. Good on ya!
 
It is truly sad, though. It's hard enough to figure out how to be a man, even when you have parents who truly care or who aren't off the rails.

All other bullshit aside, we've basically lost a huge resource. The pussification of the American male continues unabated & an organization that once helped mold good boys into great men & troubled boys into good men has gone the way of the dodo over PC/touchy-feely BS.
 
I had a neighbor who raised money for the boy scouts as an income. He got 30% of every dollar I believe. One year he raised 4 million of which 90 percent came from 6 donors. That is one heck of a salary. Really he never worked except to visit those 6 donors. During late 2008 as the economy crashed a lot of that took a hit. But it really took a hit hard when Boy Scouts caved to demands to let girls in. His wonderful salary was crushed.

I have been in scouts up to age 14. It was great. Loved it. Did lots of stuff. Took my son and became a Tiger leader. Was told to stick strickly to the lame book each day. Don’t let the boys play football because they were crying and getting hurt. Don’t ever be alone with a single kid. Don’t ever yell at a kid because they are sensitive. Jeez. A woman came in and took over the local scouts in the church. It went to zero fun.

That popcorn BS was a joke. Too expensive. Low profit. Almost all the profit went to the region people. BSA would not change and never will.
 
No surprise given the expense of law suits and settlements. I didn’t think about the loss of large donations but again it makes complete sense. BSA swept this stuff under the rug like they were the Catholic Church and then refused to take a strong stance on anything and soon became a target of the left.

Since I have my 1mo old son sleeping on me right now, and BSA is now only “scouts of America”, maybe by the time he is old enough to join such a group, someone with some cojones will create a new group that focuses on the core of what BSA used to. Otherwise, I’ll just do it myself, no big deal.
I don't know if anyone else mentioned it but there is an alternative group. Started by people fed up with the BSA policies and kowtowing to the whining groups complaining about the religious aspects, the patriotic aspects, etc without ever intending to join anyway. Trail Life USA https://www.traillifeusa.com/
 
...We had a girl scout meeting tonight. This was the 4th meeting in a row where I brought my own wood working tools and have been teaching the girls to use a miter box, screw driver, hammer, etc. and tonight the 4 oldest girls built bird houses to earn their wood working badge.

Girl scouts is no where near as cool as boy scouts was, but I know that I'm making a difference and helping these girls learn life skills.

Im seriously thinking about showing them how to change a tire next month...

My wife barely knows which end of a screwdriver to hold.
You're doing great stuff.
Just make sure you also teach them how to politely deal with guys that can't do half the stuff they know. changing a tire will be a big one in this uber/lyft world.
 
I don't know if anyone else mentioned it but there is an alternative group. Started by people fed up with the BSA policies and kowtowing to the whining groups complaining about the religious aspects, the patriotic aspects, etc without ever intending to join anyway. Trail Life USA https://www.traillifeusa.com/

Yup. There are many valid alternatives out there.

Civil Air Patrol member for over thirty years.

Civil Air Patrol, teaching young people cool stuff since 1941. :D
https://www.govcivilairpatrol.com

Yes, I was a Boy Scout too in the 1970s. My mother worked for the local council office (Tuscarora) in Goldsboro, NC for many years. Been there done Scouts, got many patches to show for it. In fact, I did the Halifax Pilgrimage in 1976, still have the medal.
 
If they decide to divest of Camp Barnhardt on Badin Lake, we should all do a crowdfunding and buy it and turn it into the CFF Resort. It's perfect and comes with it's own shooting range already. Low Low StanCo taxes. And nasty ol Badin lake is full of big catfish (not you @Catfish ) that will dispose of any uninvited guests easily.
 
Unfortunately, the local councils own the camps and they are not considered assests under National's portfolio. Now if we get all shooters to buy Philmont with its 140,000 acres in New Mexico that would make for a super shooter's world. Imagine 2000 yard ranges ...
 
Unfortunately, the local councils own the camps and they are not considered assests under National's portfolio. Now if we get all shooters to buy Philmont with its 140,000 acres in New Mexico that would make for a super shooter's world. Imagine 2000 yard ranges ...
Then we could call ourselves the CFF Militia!
 
As modern scouting seems to have cram as much woke garbage and pedo into kids as possible as it's primary mission, this probably is the best thing.
 
Unfortunately, the local councils own the camps and they are not considered assests under National's portfolio. Now if we get all shooters to buy Philmont with its 140,000 acres in New Mexico that would make for a super shooter's world. Imagine 2000 yard ranges ...
Unfortunately, the local councils own the camps and they are not considered assests under National's portfolio. Now if we get all shooters to buy Philmont with its 140,000 acres in New Mexico that would make for a super shooter's world. Imagine 2000 yard ranges ...

'N several square miles that have received almost zero hunting pressure for the last several decades.
 
Funny story my old man told me about his scouting days...back when it was about boys being turned into men and doing awesome stuff. My dad grew up in Lakewood which at the time was on the far outskirts of Atlanta. He was fortunate and his dad and uncles would take him out hunting and doing outdoors stuff. But to many of his friends, the boyscouts was their "vacation". They otherwise would never get to go camping, leave town, or basically do anything similar.

On one trip (I believe it was Philmont) they had one kid who was a rich brat who would tattle on everyone for every little thing. Pop and his buddies came from working class families, not poor, but certainly not wealthy. Well, this kid was always getting them in trouble, being a jerk, and acting as high and mighty as he could. He had brought an expensive camera on their trip (which he showed off extensively) to document it for his dear mommy. Well, one night when the others got fed up with him they snuck in, took his camera, and proceeded to take pictures of each other doing things like peeing, taking a poop, and other unsavory things. So while they weren't there to see the fruition of their offense...we can only revel in knowing that this brat went home, gave his fancy expensive camera to his dear mommy who ran down to get the film processed only to be met with images of weenies, poop, and pee. The thought reminds me of "A Christmas Story" when Ralphie rats out his friend for teaching him the F-word, and all you hear is his friend getting beaten through the phone.
 
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You need to reread my post. I did not say anything close to the left we’re pedophiles ... I was speaking of lawsuits by the left on organizations that they don’t like as a whole causing economic problems for them and how the BSA was hit with discrimination lawsuits that put them in a hole and these sexual assaults cases are burying them.

That sure was what it sound like to me. If you dont discriminate you do not get sued. Its against the law to discriminate. Then true to their form the administration turned their backs on the sexual predators. Nobody went after the Bot Scouts because of political motivation. That is just ridiculous. The boy scouts administration did it to themselves by allowing chapters to violate law and by allowing leaders to sexually abuse the kids. Boy scouts WAS a great organization. Even with the troubles many Scouts have enjoyed and benefited from their participation.
BUT, if management is allowed to continue to violate the law and to allow abuse as well as try and keep it Hush Hush, They bring on the troubles to themselves. Its the Boy scouts management that caused this situation. Trying to blame someone else is simply wrong. Like I said: The left has many issues we all can blame them for-Boy scouts bankruptcy is not one of them.

What I hate is that they will be allowed to file bankruptcy to avoid paying restitution to the hundreds of kids who suffered abuse, PTSD and developmental and sexual mental health issues for the rest of their lives. I just hope the kids that were damaged pursue civil charges against the individuals that participated in the crimes perpetrated by the management.
 
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What I hate is that they will be allowed to file bankruptcy to avoid paying restitution to the hundreds of kids who suffered abuse, PTSD and developmental and sexual mental health issues for the rest of their lives. I just hope the kids that were damaged pursue civil charges against the individuals that participated in the crimes perpetrated by the management.
Actually the point of the Chapter 11 was so the lawsuits could stop and they are setting up a fund for restitution:
“The BSA cares deeply about all victims of abuse and sincerely apologizes to anyone who was harmed during their time in Scouting,” Roger Mosby, the president and chief executive of the Boy Scouts of America, said in a statement released at about 1 a.m. Tuesday, shortly after the filing. “While we know nothing can undo the tragic abuse that victims suffered, we believe the Chapter 11 process — with the proposed Trust structure — will provide equitable compensation to all victims while maintaining the BSA’s important mission.”

One thing their policy of appeasement in opening up to gay leaders, transgender scouts, and females as Boy Scouts has done is they have chased off the Latter Day Saints kids. That's a 18% drop in numbers and a large chuck of money
 
If there is you won’t remember.
How do you know I'm not Dread Pirate Roberts? Maybe I've been building up a tolerance my whole life, waiting for somebody like you....

You think I'm unconscious, but really im enjoying it!
 
Some great memories of scouting and some not so great like some pretty severe hazing with Scout Master looking the other way. Had some really weak scout masters and some really good ones. We moved around a lot with my dad chasing jobs. Had a volunteer at one troop that looking back I am pretty sure was a pedo but they ran his ass off pretty quick. A TV blurb on all this said BS had an estimated $10Billion in assets (real estate) and $1Billion in liabilities.
 
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