The revolver in defense

My bedside gun is a S&W model 25 in 45 Colt with medium hot loads. I wouldnt want to stand in front of it. The guy pulling the trigger might know what he's doing.
 
BatteryOaksBilly said:
I expect All guns to work. So I'm not talking about a firearm malfunction. The single thing we have No control over is the ignition of our ammo. My fellow shooters say a simple Tap-Rack-Bang will solve the problem. I tell them my solution does away with Tap-Rack and goes straight to Bang..with just a trigger pull.
I had and have correspondence with Evan Marshall. He wrote two books on Stopping Power. I have a letter in the Gun Room from him written on Detroit PD stationary. It is from back in the 1900s...mid 80s I believe. He says in that letter.....If you never learn but One thing from me let it be this...if when you are leaving home, and in the farthest recess of your mind you think "I might need a gun before I come back"......take TWO. I have taken this great man killer's advice. People may scoff at you or say you are paranoid...my answer is always the same....we must all seek our own salvation.
I like Double Action revolvers....I carry as a primary a Sig 365. Right front pocket...left front pocket, usually some sort of a J Frame.
We must all seek our own salvation.
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I have Evan Marshall’s book “Handgun Stopping Power- The definitive study” and consider it a must read. It’s a breakdown of most pistol calibers and the damage they do. It also tells a lot about the effects of drugs and adrenaline on people when shot. Anyone who hasn’t read this book really needs to.

I’ve started carrying the Ruger 38 LCR that my wife thought she wanted, and like it a lot. It’s very lightweight, easy to conceal, and very accurate. I don’t feel at all feel under armed with it. I’m not ready to try the wizard with it— yet.
 
TripleO7 said:
At least the first shot is more likely to be well placed. I hope anyway. At least it works out that way against paper targets.
Not a good idea? Always willing to accept constructive criticism.
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Man, I love shooting revos, especially double action, because I do find it a challenge.
But I can’t criticize as I am no expert. Plenty of ways to skin a cat.

I ask though, because it seems like the hammer cock could be fumbled, and the trigger in SA is so light I’d be afraid to let one go unintentionally under stress. Whereas, while the DA pull is more difficult to become proficient with, it can be quick and reliable.
And I found with a bit of practice, I felt just about as accurate with it.
But again, I am no wheelgun expert!
 
When home my EDC is also a Smith 442 Pro. I keep the cylinder with the rounds in a moon clip. This will aid in positive extraction as you do NOT get full extraction out of a 1 7/8" bbl. I carry speed strips as back ups as they are flat in the pocket. Painted the front sight orange for easier and faster pickup. And to help get those few 5 rds on target added a set of CTC grips.

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My other fighting revolver is a Smith 58 in .41 Mag. You dress around your environment and perceived threats, as of now I have either a G17 or G19 on as I'm in Afghanistan.


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jimmyjames8 said:
I just retired a Ruger Security Six from bedside table duty after 30 years. Was taking a nap one afternoon and thought for sure somebody was in the house that was not invited. Cleared the house with the SS. Shoot 1911's so much, the Six felt alien in my hand. I've also got a SP101 with a Hogue grip that I take on overnight road trips for a bedside table gun. It fits my hand like an old glove. Its a keeper. The SS may have to go.
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I will dispose of that antiquated piece of junk for you, free of charge. You’re welcome...
 
TripleO7 said:
At least the first shot is more likely to be well placed. I hope anyway. At least it works out that way against paper targets.
Not a good idea? Always willing to accept constructive criticism.
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DA shooting is not difficult and won’t leave you in a situation where you might have to decock a revolver under stress. You also won’t have to have a “moving grip” during the course of your draw.
 
Since March 17 and the Lock Down, I have carried revolvers inside the Gates. I have never felt under gunned wearing one. I shoot DA guns DA and I shoot SA guns SA. I am alternating between a Colt 3 1/2 inch SAA and a Taurus Titanium 2 inch 45 Colt. Both do their job if I do mine. Neither is a Wizard killer in My hands. @303hunter!
 
BatteryOaksBilly said:
Since March 17 and the Lock Down, I have carried revolvers inside the Gates. I have never felt under gunned wearing one. I shoot DA guns DA and I shoot SA guns SA. I am alternating between a Colt 3 1/2 inch SAA and a Taurus Titanium 2 inch 45 Colt. Both do their job if I do mine. Neither is a Wizard killer in My hands. @303hunter!
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I can’t imagine trying the last stage of the Wizard with an ultralight .45 Colt or a single action. It’s hard enough to track the sights and keep the trigger stroking with a J-frame airweight and 110K-120K power factor 158 grainers.
 
BatteryOaksBilly said:
Since March 17 and the Lock Down, I have carried revolvers inside the Gates. I have never felt under gunned wearing one. I shoot DA guns DA and I shoot SA guns SA. I am alternating between a Colt 3 1/2 inch SAA and a Taurus Titanium 2 inch 45 Colt. Both do their job if I do mine. Neither is a Wizard killer in My hands. @303hunter!
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Which revolver did you try on the wizard last time we were there? I’ve been working with the LCR and like it. Trigger is extremely good from the factory, but the sights not so much. I’m about to load some lead 158 grain for it, and I’m thinking of dropping the charge a bit to help get back on target faster. What are your thoughts on this @BatteryOaksBilly?
 
Cocked & Locked said:
642 loaded with 158 grain SWC's and riding in an old Wild Bill's pocket holster been known to be in my right front pocket more than often. :)

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what grips are those? i like em
 
Sile imported a close approximation of those Herretts that are still quite plentiful on eBay. They came in a rubber finger-grooved version and a wood version with no grooves.
 
Back in my younger days in the 90s carried very fine defensive combat revolvers. Even shoot ISPC in revolver class with them. All Smith 3" HB, RB K frames. M13 modified to DAO, M64 NY-1 (DAO), and a pair of 65's (one DAO and other DA/SA)


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Combat Diver said:
Back in my younger days in the 90s carried very fine defensive combat revolvers. Even shoot ISPC in revolver class with them. All Smith 3" HB, RB K frames. M13 modified to DAO, M64 NY-1 (DAO), and a pair of 65's (one DAO and other DA/SA)


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Did you keep any of them?
 
Had a strange event here today. A fellow was over shooting and one gun he pulled out was a 642 with a laser. He was hitting the steel from around 14 yards but I noticed the red dot was appearing nowhere near the hits. When he finished the cylinder, I asked whether he was using the laser and he said no. I asked why the laser was so far from “zero” and he said he believed S&W sets the laser for 25 yards.

Why would somebody want a 642 for 25 yards? Anybody? :confused:
 
Jeppo said:
Had a strange event here today. A fellow was over shooting and one gun he pulled out was a 642 with a laser. He was hitting the steel from around 14 yards but I noticed the red dot was appearing nowhere near the hits. When he finished the cylinder, I asked whether he was using the laser and he said no. I asked why the laser was so far from “zero” and he said he believed S&W sets the laser for 25 yards.

Why would somebody want a 642 for 25 yards? Anybody? :confused:
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The lasers I have seen here were not calibrated at all for Any distance.

That is to say out of the box so to speak. I'm sure you knew what I meant...but
 
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BatteryOaksBilly said:
The lasers I have seen here were not calibrated at all for Any distance.

That is to say out of the box so to speak. I'm sure you knew what I meant...but
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I only have limited experience but I have never been able to use a laser on a handgun. Subguns, yes, but not handguns.
 
dbarale said:
I only have limited experience but I have never been able to use a laser on a handgun. Subguns, yes, but not handguns.
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Had a DEA Agent through here with Don Carroway as his "pass". He told of being issued a Sig of some sort with a laser. He was in 3 serious gunfights in extremely close quarters. Only through grace is he still alive. He told the harrowing tale and said after the 3rd encounter he removed the laser. He was, after many hours of training , Looking for that red dot on his target. He said in the middle of rattle battle he did much better not relying on the laser.

Haven't seen him lately.....hope he is safe and well.
 
Jeppo said:
Had a strange event here today. A fellow was over shooting and one gun he pulled out was a 642 with a laser. He was hitting the steel from around 14 yards but I noticed the red dot was appearing nowhere near the hits. When he finished the cylinder, I asked whether he was using the laser and he said no. I asked why the laser was so far from “zero” and he said he believed S&W sets the laser for 25 yards.

Why would somebody want a 642 for 25 yards? Anybody? :confused:
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I believe I zero'd mine for 15 yds.

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dbarale said:
I only have limited experience but I have never been able to use a laser on a handgun. Subguns, yes, but not handguns.
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I have them on a couple of mine. Rarely do I even see the dot. But I got comfortable with the grip (mine are CT laser grips on Glocks) and so I’ve left them there.

What they’re really useful for is showing somebody how much impact a little wiggle at the muzzle has 10-15 yards out. Also shows somebody how not-steady their grip is even if they think they’re holding it still. :D
 
BigWaylon said:
I have them on a couple of mine. Rarely do I even see the dot. But I got comfortable with the grip (mine are CT laser grips on Glocks) and so I’ve left them there.

What they’re really useful for is showing somebody how much impact a little wiggle at the muzzle has 10-15 yards out. Also shows somebody how not-steady their grip is even if they think they’re holding it still. :D
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I’ve got Viridian green laser/lights on two HD M&P pistols and my pump. I was out shooting the pistols the other day and, surprisingly, I could almost hit stuff. :rolleyes:
 
Jeppo said:
Had a strange event here today. A fellow was over shooting and one gun he pulled out was a 642 with a laser. He was hitting the steel from around 14 yards but I noticed the red dot was appearing nowhere near the hits. When he finished the cylinder, I asked whether he was using the laser and he said no. I asked why the laser was so far from “zero” and he said he believed S&W sets the laser for 25 yards.

Why would somebody want a 642 for 25 yards? Anybody? :confused:
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Simple, somebody that can shoot and hit what they aim at:rolleyes:
 
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