Sounds like that in order to nip these things in the bud authorities should quickly ID the true believers and stop their life force quickly and dramatically. Then the mob will disperse. Simple.
That would make most tax payers happy.
Sounds like a Tom Cruise movie that I’ve forgotten the name of.
Justice in this country has long been a loophole filled, legal circle jerk onto a loaf of bread that the victims eat while smiling and thanking the legal overlords for the meager justice they could afford. The facade of American justice died in Epstein's jail cell. Freedom is probably a decade away from being toast.
I don't believe eliminating these idiots would have galvanized anything. I'm sure 90% were just opportunistic criminals and degenerates in on the party. In every video of seen of the true believers meeting real resistance, they fold pretty instantly.
I guess you're just more patient and/or positive than me. I think on this side of the aisle, you have 2 types of people. Those that realize these folks need gone now, and those 30 years from now that will wish it had been done. If you had a pen full of dogs and one consistently attacked you, bullied the other dogs out food, attacked the other dogs, and destroyed property, and it responded to zero types of retraining or pacification, the solution would seem pretty obvious.
I sincerely believe that escalating violence in this case would have sparked a nationwide response, you do not. If I take your position on this belief, then I come to your conclusion. Point is, I can see how it would play out as you expect, I just don’t believe that one assumption. We can agree to disagree.
The dog analogy doesn’t work any more than saying that a child that’s disruptive in class should be executed.
I agree. We can not, however, win by letting them kill us. They can not be allowed to benefit from violence. Violence is one tool in their tool box that must be neutralized. We do not have to start violence against them but must respond with overwhelming force to any violence they start. That response may just be something like containing them inside an area or depriving them of some of life's necessities. The response may have to be greater. Their actions will determine how violent our response must be. Whether we have to kill them or not is up to them.
Kinda agree, but remember that they can bring more force than the police can handle. These groups have the ability to form a large mob, do a lot of damage, and disappear in minutes. They can coordinate violence across large areas, overwhelming the ability to respond. Most folks believe that the police, and certainly the national guard, have overwhelming power, and they might if they fully engaged, but we don’t even fully engage in third world shitholes so do you think that order will ever be given at home and do you think it would be executed? I agree that we need to take violence away as a tool, and I agree that we can respond to violence with violence in a very targeted way to prevent the escalation to what we think of as domestic terrorism, but for the majority of the protestors who aren’t true believers I think it best to let them see that the violent approach is ineffective or detrimental to their cause.
We do that occasionally to people who have shown that they are beyond the control of the laws and customs we have put in place to keep order in our country. We use electric chairs, lethal drugs, ropes, and a few other methods.
I don't think that those are done to control the population at large, and it’s getting to be pretty damn rare event.
Have you actually read and watched the mayors comments on the matter? It's absurd. at some point she was brushing this off as just a 'big block party' I kid you fu*&ing not. Youre assuming, for whatever reason, that this incompetent liberal twat had some spike of afghan war genius to root out rebels from a village and the evidence just isn't there. If this were Seattle's strategy, the most important part of it...like THE most important part, would have been cutting electricity, internet, incoming supplies and other services to the occupied area. That would be historically inline w/ prior military and police tactics to 'root out' foes. CHAZ was nothing but one big cluster f*&k of liberal dysentery.
With the government I try not to ascribe malice to any action that could result from incompetence, and the reverse is likely also true. I suspect that someone intentionally selected this strategy a couple weeks ago, but the mayor isn’t that person and probably doesn’t understand why what happened turned out well. Or maybe she gets it and knows that she can’t get re-elected if she had taken a forceful position against the encampment. Survival is a strong trait is all species, including politicians.
The most effective strategy in war is not likely the most effective strategy for a minor uprising at home. Yes it would have been emotionally rewarding to have walled the place in and let them rot until they filed out begging to be allowed back into the United States, I’d have loved to have seen it. But while getting to that point the crime rate inside the wall would have skyrocketed and the public outcry across the country would have been deafening. Still, fun to dream about.
