7.4.2020: NFAC Grandmaster Jay NFAC Black Militia

I'll agree with this for the most part, but look at the LEO response difference between this march and the other Bundy standoff that got Fincum murdered.
I would expect a somewhat different law enforcement response to a march (with a government permit) compared to seizing and occupying a government building and property for over a month.
 
I would expect a somewhat different law enforcement response to a march (with a government permit) compared to seizing and occupying a government building and property for over a month.

Over the last month or so we know what that response is. Nothing. Lol
 
Hey I didnt see this posted here, so I thought I'd include it

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Ok - to the original video. I went to said time stamp and didnt see anything truly wrong with it. The 'leader' talking about not pointing a weapon at anyone, not trying to scare etc, but defending if someone draws on them,yes?
Is that wrong?
Second video. Again, went to TS mentioned and heard the words about 'police the police. If they are doing their job then leave them alone. If they are messing up then call them out on it' or something to that effect. Ok.

Now, them saying they want to create their own ethnocentric country inside of ours (as pointed out in the quoted text) - nah bro, cant get behind you there.
And they want to leave to set up their own? Sure, go for it, outside of the pandemic, I dont think many countries are not allowing Americans to come.

Now maybe there was more (obviously, there was) that I didnt hear. The first video is almost an hour long and I did about 5 minutes. But I watched what the OP said to watch and I see NOTHING wrong. I strongly believe that many would (try to) defend themselves if drawn down on, yes? So what's the difference here?
 
Ok - to the original video. I went to said time stamp and didnt see anything truly wrong with it. The 'leader' talking about not pointing a weapon at anyone, not trying to scare etc, but defending if someone draws on them,yes?
Is that wrong?
Second video. Again, went to TS mentioned and heard the words about 'police the police. If they are doing their job then leave them alone. If they are messing up then call them out on it' or something to that effect. Ok.

Now, them saying they want to create their own ethnocentric country inside of ours (as pointed out in the quoted text) - nah bro, cant get behind you there.
And they want to leave to set up their own? Sure, go for it, outside of the pandemic, I dont think many countries are not allowing Americans to come.

Now maybe there was more (obviously, there was) that I didnt hear. The first video is almost an hour long and I did about 5 minutes. But I watched what the OP said to watch and I see NOTHING wrong. I strongly believe that many would (try to) defend themselves if drawn down on, yes? So what's the difference here?

There was some more rhetoric about "their tally has more than ours, let's correct that", taking back from whitey, etc. you're familiar with the BS.

Like all this movement, if it was about protesting police brutality, sure; instead, it's non-stop race baiting. Whether that is base level or top down funded I guess is the question. I know what I have seen in many videos is white people and private property being attacked while police stand idle.
 
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No BB did not start anything over Mr. Floyd.

The cop murdered George Floyd and the cop was not a G-Man.

I thought the autopsy showed Floyd died of a Fentanyl overdose. Or meth. Or Covid. So let’s not call it murder just yet. There’s the whole trial thing to go through still.
 
I thought the autopsy showed Floyd died of a Fentanyl overdose. Or meth. Or Covid. So let’s not call it murder just yet. There’s the whole trial thing to go through still.

Yes, agreed there is a trial to go through and the following info will be included,

Independent autopsy and Minnesota officials say George Floyd's death was homicide

Experts hired by George Floyd's family and the Hennepin County Medical Examiner have concluded his death was a homicide, but they differ on what caused it.
The independent autopsy says Floyd died of "asphyxiation from sustained pressure" when his neck and back were compressed by Minneapolis police officers during his arrest last week. The pressure cut off blood flow to his brain, that autopsy determined.
But the medical examiner's office, in its report also released Monday, said that the cause of death is "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." Cardiopulmonary arrest means Floyd's heart failed.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/us/george-floyd-independent-autopsy/index.html



Dr. Michael Baden on George Floyd autopsy: Knee to the back also contributed to Floyd's death
“There are three mechanisms by which we breathe that can be obstructed that can cause death, obstruction to the nose and mouth, compression the neck or compression of the back. All three were operative here, the pressure on the neck prevents blood flow, impairs blood flow to the brain, which has oxygen in it. It impairs breathing and air into the windpipe and trachea and into the lungs, which diminishes the oxygen going to the blood," Dr. Michael Baden, the forensic pathologist who performed the independent autopsy on Floyd, told Fox News.


In the video that lasted eight minutes and forty-six seconds, Floyd cries out, “I can’t breathe,” and with Floyd’s body being held down in the prone position, his “lungs weren’t getting enough oxygen,” according to Baden.

“There's two things happening here. One, he couldn't inhale. Two, the lungs weren't getting oxygen from breathing in, and the blood vessels, the carotid arteries in particular, bringing blood to the brain didn't have much oxygen in them. And the blood flow to the brain was impaired. There's also marks on his nose and face that would indicate that at some point they were pressed against the ground, the roadway, which would impair breathing, too,” Baden explained.

“So that pressure on the back in the prone position can cause death because the person can't breathe. But pressure on the neck prevents the blood flow and airflow from going to the brain and into the lungs. And that alone can cause death. I have two things here that can cause death," Baden said. "The pressure on the back would have contributed and is the more likely kind of pressure that causes somebody to say, 'I can't breathe, I can't breathe' because they know they can't inhale."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-michael-baden-factors-responsible-george-floyd-death
 
Who ever wrote that crazy Hitler stuff is super interesting and trying to bring in Mt Zion into the mix.

Next will be Ethiopia and the connection.

But....but....it’s on the internet, so it has to be gospel.
 
Nothing against Dr. Baden, but I have heard that he did not have the toxicology report or the portion of the heart that showed damage. That could be significant if true. That does not excuse the cops from doing what they did but might help explain why this particular suspect died while others treated the same way did not.
 
That does not excuse the cops from doing what they did but might help explain why this particular suspect died while others treated the same way did not.


Let me be " Crystal Clear."

I do not care for Mr. Floyd's history / background, period.

Floyd was arrested and the cop~s failed to to keep him alive.

In general & NOT directed at you Charlie,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
To imply that "Others treated the same way Lived" to justify Floyd's death is disingenuous.

There has been extensive coverage concerning the "Knee On Neck " and other similar restraint techniques and in general when and after a person approaches the 3 minute mark of not being able to breathe and past that their bodily functions decline and in Floyd's case declined to the point of death. So, given the reported almost 9 minutes ( 8 minutes 46 seconds(?) ) that Floyd was restrained and given the report that Floyd was restrained for 3 minutes AFTER he stopped breathing gives about around SIX Minutes that Floyd still had a Pulse.
My observation?
Yes a or the "toxicology report" will be very useful in determining Floyd's overall physical condition / state at the time of his arrest.
Continuing, seems a Normal Persons ( meaning NOT Under any drug influence~s ) time until "Distress ", because of Lack of Oxygen , Starts at about 3 Minutes. That leaves almost 3 Extra minutes that Mr. Floyd could have positioned so he could, Breathe. On the surface it also supports that even if Floyd was under the influence his physical condition was at or above average.

Also, when I state Murder I do not believe there was a plan to kill Floyd.
However Floyd was in the custody of Minneapolis Police and they Failed to keep he alive.


Minneapolis police rendered 44 people unconscious with neck restraints in five years

Police define neck restraints as when an officer uses an arm or leg to compress someone's neck without directly pressuring the airway. On May 25, Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin was captured on video kneeling on the neck of a prone and handcuffed George Floyd for eight minutes — including nearly three minutes after he had stopped breathing.

Minneapolis police data shows that in the bulk of use-of-force cases involving neck restraints when an individual lost consciousness, the restraint was used after a suspect fled on foot or tensed up as they were being taken into custody. Almost half of the people who lost consciousness were injured, according to the reports, which do not spell out the severity of those injuries.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...conscious-neck-restraints-five-years-n1220416
 
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I seem to recall a black cop causing the death of a white person with that same technique since the death of Floyd. It evidently is not a good method to use on a suspect because it can cause serious harm and occasionally death. It seems, however, to be used quite a bit. They even show it quite frequently on the cop shows on TV. Perhaps it should not be used. I am not an expert by any means on restraining people who do not want to be restrained. Would kneeling on a neck cause less damage than subduing a fighting suspect than beating him/her into submission with a club or using a tazer? I do not know. I suppose such things should be studied a little more.

I am not implying that Floyd's death was justified but rather that Dr. Baden did not have all the facts in front of him to get a complete picture of the situation. If the knee-on-the-neck technique is a generally accepted method, as it seems to be, that rarely leads to death, then the information that Dr. Baden did not have could shed a lot of light on what really happened that caused death in this case. I think all the facts should be out in the open before the final judgement is made. This is where Floyds medical history and chemical history really do matter one way or the other.
 
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