Yesterday at Stone Mt. Ga.

The Marxists can turn out a large group of armed, equipped, and organized people at a location in a short period of time.

Seems that they can when there is no push-back and they are allowed to setup. Which bring me to this...

Are "WE" ready, no. Too many will find a way out, too many kids, wife, job, whatever helps them feel justified in not participating or taking a risk. Stay home so you, your children and wife can live in whatever society they choose to make it.

Are "WE" armed to the teeth, yes. More than enough arms and ammo to start the next world war but too afraid to pull the trigger and shoot someone in the face. Never had to do it and it sickens them to even think about it.

We have a lot more responsibilities than students and the 'welfare' groups. So, IMO, it will take more to get organized and located. What I do see is once it starts, there will be no stopping of the last side forced to take the field. I won't ask "did you have enough?" I was forced out of my easy chair and I'm not getting back up to do it again in 5-10 years.
 
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I saw several of those AR's in the video that either had flip up sights that were not in the deployed position or no sights at all. That is interesting.
 
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I saw a big album of pics from this on Facebook. Most of the ARs were actually 22lr, and one of the ringleaders comically had a stovepipe.

Bunch of $30 red dots, etc. I saw maybe three guns I would myself own (all carried by women oddly enough).

Never forget, it only takes 1 bullet to take anyone out of the fight. If one is even sprayed at with at 22lr, it only takes 1.
 
I was all for a huge group of black ladies and gentlemen exercising their 2nd Amendment. All the way and right until they started muzzle sweeping everyone,used poor trigger discipline, and then started race baiting, and intimidating bystanders. That’s when my support wained. Shortly after that I found out their grand dragon is an anti-semite and black separatist. I’m out.
I was never in.
 
I am not saying 22lr is a toy. I am saying a lot of the equipment was dumb. Here is another example:

Some of them were wearing those big gas masks because they play too many video games? No filter installed.

I can make fun of a woody pinto wagon and also not jump in front of one*
 
I am not saying 22lr is a toy. I am saying a lot of the equipment was dumb. Here is another example:

Some of them were wearing those big gas masks because they play too many video games? No filter installed.

I can make fun of a woody pinto wagon and also not jump in front of one*

I do find the dress-up aspect to be super interesting. Its like they dressed up like a bad 90's swat team. Really makes no since to me at all.
 
I ask the question I did because Its something I've been thinking on too. In my corner of the world, things aren't bad. I haven't seen much protesting in person, but I try an avoid those areas. I haven't seen armed militias in person yet either.

I keep thinking the protests will die down, the marxists will go back to their holes, etc, but what if they don't? It doesn't appear that our government is too keen on acting against them. I think a lot of us are thinking about our position and our comfort level, and trying to decide where our own personal line in the sand is. I just hope that IF we do have to act, that we act together.
 
You have nailed it. The Cliff Notes is until it hits home and many more round them it’s just another incident that never affected us.
This kind of thinking from the public is what has allowed us to get to the place we are now.

Wonder what kind of leadership/person it would take to mobilize the real militia?
 
This fantasy by some that these people are pro 2a is just that a hyped up dream.
They aren’t pro anything America and they don’t even consider the constitution as relevant.
 
I do find the dress-up aspect to be super interesting. Its like they dressed up like a bad 90's swat team. Really makes no since to me at all.
All black clothing has always been common in black power movements.
 
We have a lot more responsibilities than students and the 'welfare' groups.
Yes, by far.

What I do see is once it starts, there will be no stopping of the last side forced to take the field. I won't ask "did you have enough?"
Yes, off and on talk with ~ between us "BOOMERS" (??) concerning the direction of our country, there will be no stopping the side forced to take the field.
Speaking for myself, and with having casual conversations with Like Minded, if & when it starts there will be a "Call To Arms" ( so to say) that the Left has never Dreamed of seeing and there won't be enough Diapers for them to wear.
 
They aren’t pro anything America and they don’t even consider the constitution as relevant.

Extremely fair point.

For historical events where the "victim class" takes it all the way to the goal line, reading about the Kulaks is a good place to start.
 
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I dont think I could gather 200-500 people for a BBQ, much less an armed march.

However, the real question is "What is their cohesion?". Sure, having a bunch of people is great. But what would happen if even 10 meat eating ground pounders showed up and started the bang bang show? Would 200-500 stand and fight? Would they know how to deploy affectively to return fire? Would they panic all at once and trample on one another to get away? Would it even be a fight at all?

Yes, it is impressive to draw numbers. But numbers dont win fights. Its people willing to actually get dirty and stack bodies. So while no, I couldnt gather that many "warm bodies to march"...I know about 10 guys who would just need me along to carry spare magazines and keep them stocked with copenhagen and whiskey.
 
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If I can find that photo album I was talking about id like to answer that question for a cash prize.
 
I was gonna question their dedication & training, but will leave that discussion to the more knowledgeable & experienced.

My impression is that a handful of trained, disciplined meat eaters would rout those booger eaters without breaking a sweat & deal a massive blow to their organization's morale in the process.
 
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My impression is that a handful of trained, disciplined meat eaters would rout those booger eaters without breaking a sweat & deal a massive blow to their organization's morale in the process.
I think it is quite likely that we will see that happen sooner or later. Eventually the booger eaters, as you called them, are going to step on the wrong toes in the wrong town and get a decisive reaction. It also wouldn't surprise me in the least when this happens that the response from law enforcement, some of whom may be among the meat eaters, will be to proverbially speaking, whistle past the graveyard ignoring outrage that will surely come down from the political masters who are supporting the booger eaters.
 
But what would happen if even 10 meat eating ground pounders showed up and started the bang bang show? Would 200-500 stand and fight? Would they know how to deploy affectively to return fire? Would they panic all at once and trample on one another to get away? Would it even be a fight at all?

I think this is the difference between "us" and "them" (although I'm not really qualified to be part of "us").

The "them", the protesters/armed thugs/whatever can treat this like a great big game. Show up, yell at whitey, intimidate some people, maybe get sprayed or rubber bulleted by the cops (at which point you get to be internet famous as a 'victim' and/or get some free monies in the lawsuits later on), burn some stuff, steal some stuff, no big deal. No job to lose, no house to lose, no lasting damage.

The "us" know that if they have to "get out of their chair" that people are going to die. Lots of people. Possibly "us". Even if not, the "us" will go to jail, lose jobs, houses, families, basically life as we know it changes in all bad ways. There is no fun, there is no glory. You'll be vilified by the media and the .gov and used as an example as to why the .gov must be in charge and have more power while the rest of "us" get less freedom. It's not a game when you release the real dogs of war. Not going all the way gets you nothing but loss.
 
I saw a big album of pics from this on Facebook. Most of the ARs were actually 22lr, and one of the ringleaders comically had a stovepipe.

Bunch of $30 red dots, etc. I saw maybe three guns I would myself own (all carried by women oddly enough).

Yeah, but folks armed with those rimfires, topped with Chinese sh*t, are still capable of inflicting damage, injury or death.
 
@Jayne I've seen it put this way: to "them", violence in a continuum with various degrees and levels. As you put it, yell at whitey, intimidate some people, assault them with concrete milkshakes, and so forth. To "us", it's an on / off switch.
 
I think this is the difference between "us" and "them" (although I'm not really qualified to be part of "us").

The "them", the protesters/armed thugs/whatever can treat this like a great big game. Show up, yell at whitey, intimidate some people, maybe get sprayed or rubber bulleted by the cops (at which point you get to be internet famous as a 'victim' and/or get some free monies in the lawsuits later on), burn some stuff, steal some stuff, no big deal. No job to lose, no house to lose, no lasting damage.

The "us" know that if they have to "get out of their chair" that people are going to die. Lots of people. Possibly "us". Even if not, the "us" will go to jail, lose jobs, houses, families, basically life as we know it changes in all bad ways. There is no fun, there is no glory. You'll be vilified by the media and the .gov and used as an example as to why the .gov must be in charge and have more power while the rest of "us" get less freedom. It's not a game when you release the real dogs of war. Not going all the way gets you nothing but loss.

Oh, no doubt about it. They have the media on their side. In fact, the whole thing leaves me baffled at times to what they are actually all crying for...they have the media, corporations are bowing left and right to "woke" pressure, they have sports, hollywood, entertainment, colleges and universities, and political control of most of the largest cities in the nation.

And I preface what I am about to say with full disclosure that I do not count myself one of those "meat eaters" who would "cut fence and sort stuff out"...I am an overweight banker with a wife and 4 kids and a nearly unhealthy love of firearms...

But we look back on history and when the Revolution kicked off, there weren't a whole lot of news papers in GB extolling the greatness of those involved. Most of the signers of the Declaration of Independence suffered horribly due to their actions. Even in the states people lost businesses, families, and their lives.

So again, I dont want to belittle the actual terrible impact standing up to these groups would entail.
 
I’m not underestimating any individual...no matter how they look, how they’re armed or what their beliefs may be.

Turn on the 6:00 news, on any given evening and it is proof positive that humans are capable of knowingly/willingly doing some pretty bad sh*t to their fellow humans.
 
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We are constantly being told the cops are the good guys, then why are the just standing by and letting this happen?
Because they don't want to lose everything that is being talked about in this thread just for cracking some BLM moron upside the head. I think the cops should sit back and watch it all go to crap.
 
I am shocked that when they got to the actual monument they didnt just unload every round they had into the rock face.
 
The "us" know that if they have to "get out of their chair" that people are going to die. Lots of people. Possibly "us". Even if not, the "us" will go to jail, lose jobs, houses, families, basically life as we know it changes in all bad ways. There is no fun, there is no glory. You'll be vilified by the media and the .gov and used as an example as to why the .gov must be in charge and have more power while the rest of "us" get less freedom. It's not a game when you release the real dogs of war. Not going all the way gets you nothing but loss.

What Nation is that?

An American Nation.



This is not the conduct of a gentleman.

Before there was a nation, there was a fight for freedom

 
We are seeing the early stages of an resurrection designed to overthrow Uncle. We are seeing the same tactics the Deep State (Department) has used all over the world to foment insurrection and revolution being used here. While I do believe that we are no longer a nation, but rather an empire that is coming apart at the seems, and government at all levels has become corrupt, bloated, and needs to be replaced I can't say that I am in favor of a Marxist revolution here. Unfortunately, the communists have been playing the long game for several decades and have put many of their pieces in place: in the schools, in the corporations, in the courts, etc.


It will take some horrific catalyzing event in order for that to happen. Something that shocks people out of their apathy. Right now, everyone is too concerned with keeping their head down, not saying anything that can be construed as being racists, going to work on Monday morning. As long as their bellies are full, the beer is flowing, the lights and water appear with the flick of a switch, and football plays on the TV, they will remain in that state.
Maybe something as heinous as child sex trafficking??? How come We lock the whole country down for a plandemic, yet no one questions where 800,000 children went missing since 2018? Would you all have even noticed there was a pandemic, if no one told you? Sometimes The People have to see the evil for themselves, before they believe. This is that final battle...Good vs evil.
 
Oh, no doubt about it. They have the media on their side. In fact, the whole thing leaves me baffled at times to what they are actually all crying for...they have the media, corporations are bowing left and right to "woke" pressure, they have sports, hollywood, entertainment, colleges and universities, and political control of most of the largest cities in the nation.

And I preface what I am about to say with full disclosure that I do not count myself one of those "meat eaters" who would "cut fence and sort stuff out"...I am an overweight banker with a wife and 4 kids and a nearly unhealthy love of firearms...

But we look back on history and when the Revolution kicked off, there weren't a whole lot of news papers in GB extolling the greatness of those involved. Most of the signers of the Declaration of Independence suffered horribly due to their actions. Even in the states people lost businesses, families, and their lives.

So again, I dont want to belittle the actual terrible impact standing up to these groups would entail.
The only thing evil/tyranny needs to prevail, is for good men to do nothing. I don't like the idea of my stepchildren having to live in fear.
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The media is complicit. They paint the picture that the mob is bigger than you. I say b.s.
 
You assume you are a good guy
You reminded me of a time, almost 40 years ago, we were on vacation at the family cottage at a lake in Ontario. A friend of the same age and with the same first names and I were floating out in the lake one afternoon. The subject of Star Wars was on our minds having just recently seen the movie. I forget what I asked, but in flashbulb memory style I remember him giving me a profound answer: the (evil) Empire thought they were the good guys too.
 
Isnt that what Timothy McVeigh said?
 
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