Yesterday at Stone Mt. Ga.

BTW, did you know there were actually TWO Ku Klux Klans? One was formed by Nathan Bedford Forrest, who was, imo, the most brilliant tactician of the Civil War (with the exception of Stonewall Jackson). He was an amazing man, bigger than life, and one who was motivated not so much by "racism" -although that was a general cultural malaise of the time that tinged just about everything- as by the desire to use force if necessary to combat the hopeless plundering by corrupt Republicans installed as puppet politicians throughout the south. The organization only lasted 2 years (1868 - 1869) and was disbanded. During that time, official records show mostly assassinations and intimidation of WHITE POLITICIANS, though there was plenty of stuff directed at blacks, as well. Part of the reason for the dissolution of the Klan may well have been that Forrest was converted and became an outspoken evangelical Christian. Reports on the breakup are sketchy, but Forrest, a giant of a man and a badass, fearless genius if there ever was one, was indisputably changed.

The next re-formation of the Klan did not occur until 1915, and that is the one with the most ugly and and nasty stuff. It also sucked in huge numbers of whites WHO SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER (at one time there were over 40,000 white pastors in the Klan). The former outfit was primarily a guerilla paramilitary outfit like you see in Iraq or one of the Stans, with ideological components, but primarily a resistance to imposition of corrupt political external powers. The latter was almost pure racial. Its birthplace was actually Stone Mountain.

I never knew this, and since no one under 30 knows any history of the USA not Zinnified, I thought it worth putting out there.
 
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Maybe they, the NFAC, should march in the south side of Chicago and run the gangbangers out? They are much more of a threat to black lives than cops are. They kill as many in one weekend in one town than the cops kill nationwide in a year! But killing black children by black gangbangers evidently doesn't matter?
 
They werent there as part of a protest.. They showed up in direct response to KKK making direct threats to kill protestors.

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"Just one more terrorist group! Nothing more than terrorist thugs that need to be put down like blm & antifa. This will be over when they're exterminated. And before you claim racism remember that these fools arent all black.
 
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Just another interesting tidbit about Forrest, which is especially interesting in light of the rush to tear down "symbols of racism"......in a lust to purify ourselves... here is how a REAL racist dealt with it.

Nathan Forrest was, as per: above, a badasses badass. He killed his first man at 24..... in fact he killed his first THREE men, all in one fight. One against four. He shot two of them, and then while fighting the other two, someone tossed him a knife. He stabbed one to death, and almost killed the other one. He was an orphan, and ran his mom's farm as a business genius. He turned it into a slave trading business, and ruthlessly exploited blacks, not for cruelty so much as he just did not give a damn. He had a net worth of 1.5 million dollars in 1861, a Buffet-esque figure at that time. He gambled, swore and caroused, although he never drank, except once when he drank almost a quart of liquor before surgery to dig a ball out of his back in the war.... he was back in the saddle the next day. He married a Christian woman and had great respect for Christian integrity, but considered it unmanly..... and if there EVER was an alpha male, it was NBF. He joined the Confederate army...... as a private. His heroism, leadership, fearlessness and exploits in battle led to him being promoted to the rank of Lieutenant General (think: Smedley Butler). His tactics are still studied today. I could tell you story after story of his reckless in your face bravery and toughness and after a while you would be like... "this is boring and can't possibly be true." US Grant so hated and feared him that he said he would exhaust the US Treasury if he could but kill Forrest.
After the war, he had 10 dollars to his name. His wife saved it "for a rainy day." He took it and told her he was going to gamble with it. She begged him not to, and he instead told her to pray that God would not let him lose it, lol. She refused, but he went anyway. He came back that night with over $1500. He formed a business doing farming with mostly prison labor, and was successful. He formed the Klan in 1868 and they went on a spree of political murders and intimidations, forcing the defeat of the phenomenally corrupt Union puppet governor. Forrest claimed the purpose of the Klan had been accomplished and disbanded it, but charges persisted that it was not only active, but that Forrest was still operating it. He appeared before Congress in 1871, but denied the charges.

In 1875, he began attending a Presbyterian church and struggled with what he considered a pussy religion (my words, not his). He met one of his old staff officers who had been converted and was deeply moved by the change in the man's life. He was remarkably and notably converted (nothing the man did was not remarkable and notable, it seems!). Here is how the gospel affected "racism" in his life.
He began doing what he could to guarantee humane treatment on his farm, where the state brokered out labor of convicts. He began encouraging evangelism and small business formation, especially among blacks, but really among all the convicts, when their sentences were over. He began devoting his moneys to help restore independence and self respect among the lowest classes by fostering the things that still work today: family stability, honest trades, financial responsibility, avoiding enslavement to substances, etc etc......, and the gospel.... always the gospel at the heart of it.

His conversion was so notable among the black population that he was invited to speak to a black civil rights forerunner group to today’s NAACP, the “Pole-Bearers” Association. He was sneered at and mocked by the white community, especially the elite socialites and businesspeople for appearing.... you just did not DO such things in that era. Here is part of his address:

I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man, to depress none. I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I'll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand.”

What he said is what he did. It is what Christ does, and what the school history books will NEVER tell you.
 
Did this happen at the same time as the Gettysburg hoax?
 
BTW, did you know there were actually TWO Ku Klux Klans? One was formed by Nathan Bedford Forrest, who was, imo, the most brilliant tactician of the Civil War (with the exception of Stonewall Jackson). He was an amazing man, bigger than life, and one who was motivated not so much by "racism" -although that was a general cultural malaise of the time that tinged just about everything- as by the desire to use force if necessary to combat the hopeless plundering by corrupt Republicans installed as puppet politicians throughout the south. The organization only lasted 2 years (1868 - 1869) and was disbanded. During that time, official records show mostly assassinations and intimidation of WHITE POLITICIANS, though there was plenty of stuff directed at blacks, as well. Part of the reason for the dissolution of the Klan may well have been that Forrest was converted and became an outspoken evangelical Christian. Reports on the breakup are sketchy, but Forrest, a giant of a man and a badass, fearless genius if there ever was one, was indisputably changed.

The next re-formation of the Klan did not occur until 1915, and that is the one with the most ugly and and nasty stuff. It also sucked in huge numbers of whites WHO SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER (at one time there were over 40,000 white pastors in the Klan). The former outfit was primarily a guerilla paramilitary outfit like you see in Iraq or one of the Stans, with ideological components, but primarily a resistance to imposition of corrupt political external powers. The latter was almost pure racial. Its birthplace was actually Stone Mountain.

I never knew this, and since no one under 30 knows any history of the USA not Zinnified, I thought it worth putting out there.
I knew that little piece of history. That 2nd group showed up around the same time most of those monuments started being erected.

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"Just one more terrorist group! Nothing more than terrorist thugs that need to be put down like blm & antifa. This will be over when they're exterminated. And before you claim racism remember that these fools arent all black.
So no mention of the Klan in your comment?

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There are videos posted online where you can see and hear it for yourself.

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Was hoping you could link me directly, Id rather not google KKK and have to wade through their BS
 
Ignoring the politics involved, I have a question for everyone here.

How many of you could turn out 500 to 1000 armed people, uniformly dressed (reasonably so), who would then adhere to a chain of command, listen to whomever was "in charge," and do so in public, with a common ethos or goal?

This may be the most important question to ask right now, period, because the answer shows how woefully disorganized and unprepared people are to meet a crisis the likes of which seems to be building.
It's much more difficult for the Right to organize than the Left. The government spies and infiltrators view the right as threats to their power, whereas the left are useful idiots. I believe what we la k in organization we make up for with enthusiasm, lol. Once the gloves come off and the right can openly come together organization will happen and it will be no contest, unless the miltary is called in. If that happens there will most likely be mass defections and full blown civil war.
 
So no mention of the Klan in your comment?

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Havent noticed them rioting, looting, and threatening innocent folks. But I certainly condemn the lawless behavior from anyone.
 
Reparations?

A half million people, give or take, paid the highest in reparations a century and a half ago.

Some paid as a consequence of supporting slavery.

Some paid as a sacrifice for the abolition of slavery.

Heck, a big chunk probably paid because they didn't have any other choice on either side.

Regardless, a half million people ended up giving their all for the cause.

Reparations have already been made.
 
It's much more difficult for the Right to organize than the Left.
The starfish and the spider: http://www.starfishandspider.com/ The "left" is basically a decentralized organization, while the "right" is focused on being a centralized one. It's part of why they've been effective and the legal system has only been able to go after the few that pop up as apparent leaders.
 
Reparations?

A half million people, give or take, paid the highest in reparations a century and a half ago.

Reparations have already been made.

Agree 100%.

We’re a little over two months away from the 158th anniversary of Sharpsburg.

The battle started around 5:30 in the morning on Sep 17, 1862 and ended that evening around 5:30. 3,650 men were killed and 17,300 were wounded...in 12 hours.

The death rate was 5/minute and wounded 24/minute. Nearly 30 men, killed or wounded....every MINUTE.

Price has been paid in full.
 
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It's much more difficult for the Right to organize than the Left. The government spies and infiltrators view the right as threats to their power, whereas the left are useful idiots. I believe what we la k in organization we make up for with enthusiasm, lol. Once the gloves come off and the right can openly come together organization will happen and it will be no contest, unless the miltary is called in. If that happens there will most likely be mass defections and full blown civil war.

It's much more difficult to organize the Right because the Right is too comfortable in life and is full of self-righteous excuses as to why they can't.

"I don't have time to ________, I have a job!"

"Only degenerates and hippies protest, I have responsibilities and am a law abiding citizen!"

"I have a wife and kids. I wish I could do something about it."

Excuses for NOT being actively involved in protecting Liberty and our way of life while it's relatively easy.

But ohhhhhh man, let it get to a shooting war, when there's a real chance of dying - and yeah, they're gonna make that decision all easy like and be right there in the fight.

Sorry, I'm not buying it.

The Right isn't organized because they don't want to be, because they have "better things to do."

Might upset some folks, but that's a fact.
 
It's much more difficult to organize the Right because the Right is too comfortable in life and is full of self-righteous excuses as to why they can't.

"I don't have time to ________, I have a job!"

"Only degenerates and hippies protest, I have responsibilities and am a law abiding citizen!"

"I have a wife and kids. I wish I could do something about it."

Excuses for NOT being actively involved in protecting Liberty and our way of life while it's relatively easy.

But ohhhhhh man, let it get to a shooting war, when there's a real chance of dying - and yeah, they're gonna make that decision all easy like and be right there in the fight.

Sorry, I'm not buying it.

The Right isn't organized because they don't want to be, because they have "better things to do."

Might upset some folks, but that's a fact.

So how do you have the time to time here on CFF then? Where are you standing up to the protesters at? Online only I assume?
 
Americans for America are waking up big time. I started some meetings and they are slowly growing in numbers. I feel compelled each week as I started the ball rolling but its hard to be motivated by all the negativity spewed from the media and politicos. Honestly the younger folks get me in gear with their enthusiasm and dedication and it helps me a lot. There is so much more to talk about than just guns but they make for some great show and tell....lol. I would encourage all to light some positive fires and see where they burn to.

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It's much more difficult to organize the Right because the Right is too comfortable in life and is full of self-righteous excuses as to why they can't.

"I don't have time to ________, I have a job!"

"Only degenerates and hippies protest, I have responsibilities and am a law abiding citizen!"

"I have a wife and kids. I wish I could do something about it."

Excuses for NOT being actively involved in protecting Liberty and our way of life while it's relatively easy.

But ohhhhhh man, let it get to a shooting war, when there's a real chance of dying - and yeah, they're gonna make that decision all easy like and be right there in the fight.

Sorry, I'm not buying it.

The Right isn't organized because they don't want to be, because they have "better things to do."

Might upset some folks, but that's a fact.

Its true. I've heard every one of those statements a dozen times, at least, and I'm sure I've said a few of them myself.

I'm sure everybody is ready to rock when the problem comes up to their door, but I fear it may be too late by then.
 
Just another interesting tidbit about Forrest, which is especially interesting in light of the rush to tear down "symbols of racism"......in a lust to purify ourselves... here is how a REAL racist dealt with

Nathan Forrest was, as per: above, a badasses badass. He killed his first man at 24..... in fact he killed his first THREE men, all in one fight. One against four. He shot two of them, and then while fighting the other two, someone tossed him a knife. He stabbed one to death, and almost killed the other one. He was an orphan, and ran his mom's farm as a business genius. He turned it into a slave trading business, and ruthlessly exploited blacks, not for cruelty so much as he just did not give a damn. He had a net worth of 1.5 million dollars in 1861, a Buffet-esque figure at that time. He gambled, swore and caroused, although he never drank, except once when he drank almost a quart of liquor before surgery to dig a ball out of his back in the war.... he was back in the saddle the next day. He married a Christian woman and had great respect for Christian integrity, but considered it unmanly..... and if there EVER was an alpha male, it was NBF. He joined the Confederate army...... as a private. His heroism, leadership, fearlessness and exploits in battle led to him being promoted to the rank of Lieutenant General (think: Smedley Butler). His tactics are still studied today. I could tell you story after story of his reckless in your face bravery and toughness and after a while you would be like... "this is boring and can't possibly be true." US Grant so hated and feared him that he said he would exhaust the US Treasury if he could but kill Forrest.
After the war, he had 10 dollars to his name. His wife saved it "for a rainy day." He took it and told her he was going to gamble with it. She begged him not to, and he instead told her to pray that God would not let him lose it, lol. She refused, but he went anyway. He came back that night with over $1500. He formed a business doing farming with mostly prison labor, and was successful. He formed the Klan in 1868 and they went on a spree of political murders and intimidations, forcing the defeat of the phenomenally corrupt Union puppet governor. Forrest claimed the purpose of the Klan had been accomplished and disbanded it, but charges persisted that it was not only active, but that Forrest was still operating it. He appeared before Congress in 1871, but denied the charges.

In 1875, he began attending a Presbyterian church and struggled with what he considered a pussy religion (my words, not his). He met one of his old staff officers who had been converted and was deeply moved by the change in the man's life. He was remarkably and notably converted (nothing the man did was not remarkable and notable, it seems!). Here is how the gospel affected "racism" in his life.
He began doing what he could to guarantee humane treatment on his farm, where the state brokered out labor of convicts. He began encouraging evangelism and small business formation, especially among blacks, but really among all the convicts, when their sentences were over. He began devoting his moneys to help restore independence and self respect among the lowest classes by fostering the things that still work today: family stability, honest trades, financial responsibility, avoiding enslavement to substances, etc etc......, and the gospel.... always the gospel at the heart of it.

His conversion was so notable among the black population that he was invited to speak to a black civil rights forerunner group to today’s NAACP, the “Pole-Bearers” Association. He was sneered at and mocked by the white community, especially the elite socialites and businesspeople for appearing.... you just did not DO such things in that era. Here is part of his address:

I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man, to depress none. I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I'll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand.”

"What he said is what he did. It is what Christ does, and what the school history books will NEVER tell you.
He began devoting his moneys to help restore independence and self respect among the lowest classes by fostering the things that still work today: family stability, honest trades, financial responsibility, avoiding enslavement to substances, etc etc......, and the gospel.... always the gospel at the heart of it."
I like that. Thanks for the history lesson.
 
It's much more difficult to organize the Right because the Right is too comfortable in life and is full of self-righteous excuses as to why they can't.

"I don't have time to ________, I have a job!"

"Only degenerates and hippies protest, I have responsibilities and am a law abiding citizen!"

"I have a wife and kids. I wish I could do something about it."

Excuses for NOT being actively involved in protecting Liberty and our way of life while it's relatively easy.

But ohhhhhh man, let it get to a shooting war, when there's a real chance of dying - and yeah, they're gonna make that decision all easy like and be right there in the fight.

Sorry, I'm not buying it.

The Right isn't organized because they don't want to be, because they have "better things to do."

Might upset some folks, but that's a fact.

IMHO right and left wing both fly the same bird. I have no problem causing some slow singing and flower bringing when necessary but not gonna jump on a ship of fools.
 
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One of my coworkers used to work at Stone Mountain. That’s where she met her husband. She told me today that the Klan was always holding rallies there. So I guess I see why a wacky black group would counter the wacky white group there. Too bad the Klan didn’t show up so they could both wipe each other out. Problem solved.

My coworker is white and her husband is black. She said he is disgusted by all of this crap. He thinks it’s embarrassing that large swaths of black America are buying into false narratives and being used to commit violence and chaos. So don't be fooled. Reasonable people of all colors see how insane most of the groups are. The media is only telling one side of the story. As usual.
 
One of my coworkers used to work at Stone Mountain. That’s where she met her husband. She told me today that the Klan was always holding rallies there. So I guess I see why a wacky black group would counter the wacky white group there. Too bad the Klan didn’t show up so they could both wipe each other out. Problem solved.

My coworker is white and her husband is black. She said he is disgusted by all of this crap. He thinks it’s embarrassing that large swaths of black America are buying into false narratives and being used to commit violence and chaos. So don't be fooled. Reasonable people of all colors see how insane most of the groups are. The media is only telling one side of the story. As usual.
this is an excellent post
 
this is an excellent post

My guess is that the more educated are very scared. They worked hard like everyone else to make a living and they see their brethren fixing to destroy everything they have worked for. I would be pissed too. I get pissed when people post bullsht fake news that takes two seconds to verify. Makes conservatives look like fools.
 
I do find the dress-up aspect to be super interesting. Its like they dressed up like a bad 90's swat team. Really makes no since to me at all.

I imagine it is similar to the street "uniform" of jeans and a white t-shirt. Harder to describe your assailant with any specificity.
 
I vote we give them California if they all agree to move there and stay there.

I agree. We make California a dem state with all dem rules then pick another state to make all conservative with their rules and just let the people live how they want. There would be open borders but you would know when you enter where you are and what is expected from you. It would never happen but i wonder how that would play out.
 
John, I think there is an aspect in this and another thread you've overlooked. Intimidation. The who and why of it. It might not intimidate you, or anyone on this board. But we are not the audience. Soccer moms and families with kids were. And I imagine a lot of them were plenty intimidated.

Take a look at the difference in who the two armed groups are presenting themselves too. Groups on the right are going after local and state Gov. Groups on the left are going after the public.

An insurgency requires either the support of the public or the public to fear them in order to fully operate. They currently have neither. But it looks like they are putting their hope in instilling enough fear to push their agenda into the open. Most of these groups are of some Marxist bent. They don't really have to communicate or work together just yet. They all know which direction they are headed though. And this falls right in line with many other Marxist attempts at power grabs. Scare the public into submission.

There are two "public"s in America today. They are MOSTLY divided, or divided most cleanly, by geography. There is almost total rot in the cities. Patriots who haven't moved and don't move are -imo- going to be most disappointed. The people out here "in the middle" (click the link, great song) are different .... really different. COVID is going to be the GREATEST thing for real America. It will provide an income source for disenfranchised rural folk who were sinking into despair and meth and opiods. The people who WANT self reliance, independence, moral standards, local community and a sense of getting away from flitting from one air conditioned sterile box to another (home to work) and then celebrating "art" which promotes every type of moral degeneracy, combined with moral peacocking (virtue signalling) consisting of measuring your goodness by how much you broadcast your feelings of guilt and how much you speak out about the need to force other folk to financially pay for their sins and the sins of their fathers..... those kinds of people are going to leave the cities, along with lots of scared sheep who see the collapse of leftist nuthouse stuff.

It is why I don't sweat the ANTIFA loons who figure out which end of the tube the round comes out. They come out here, the will get their asses shot off. OTOH, you can say "what about the seats of political power... blue cities have the votes." Let me say this as clearly as I know how to say it. VOTES ONLY COUNT IF THE ELECTORATE SEE VOTES AS THE MORAL EQUIVALENT OF MORALITY. Once it dawns on folks that this glorious rippling flag and lusty bellowing of the star spangled banner and teary eyed visions of graveyard crosses is ... (and always has been, in reality) emotional manipulation to convince kids to die in some other country in the name causes that do not affect them, for the back pockets of people who sneer at liberty and justice and freedom.... and JOIN the black populace in understanding that mostly patriotism is a tool to force compliance.... once that happens (and it is coming quickly even to conservative patriots, as the mask comes off the power) ... once that happens, all bets are off. Then, all you will have are cities which are festering parasites, producing some tech (but no longer with the monopoly) but decaying ghosts of what used to make them vibrant and productive. Think "Detroit" and "San Francisco"... crap, think "California." People are going to flee this stuff. They already are. COVID has provided the impetus and it is going to be glorious to see these hellholes rot. Not because of the suffering, but because the lefitsm/collectivism combined with the sneers at solid moral bulwarks for a culture will be shown to be the absolute self devouring, rotting putrid mess it is.

You can't rebuild till you cut the cancer out, and in this case, it is so advanced it has to kill the host.

Welcome to the new "USA" It is revolution time, again. Let's hope and pray for peace, but the old nation is gone, people
 
I imagine it is similar to the street "uniform" of jeans and a white t-shirt. Harder to describe your assailant with any specificity.
Uniformity is also psychologically useful in getting individuals to lose a bit of that individuality and be more amenable to doing what the group does rather than letting their personal views or morality make them hesitate.

It's why it's systematically used in both the military and law enforcement.
 
It's much more difficult to organize the Right because the Right is too comfortable in life and is full of self-righteous excuses as to why they can't.

"I don't have time to ________, I have a job!"

"Only degenerates and hippies protest, I have responsibilities and am a law abiding citizen!"

"I have a wife and kids. I wish I could do something about it."

Excuses for NOT being actively involved in protecting Liberty and our way of life while it's relatively easy.

But ohhhhhh man, let it get to a shooting war, when there's a real chance of dying - and yeah, they're gonna make that decision all easy like and be right there in the fight.

Sorry, I'm not buying it.

The Right isn't organized because they don't want to be, because they have "better things to do."

Might upset some folks, but that's a fact.
Cannot agree. The biggest impediment imo is the insistent believe by believers in liberty that you can force a big centralized state to support liberty in the first place. This has led to the silly silly silly insistence that "we" are "all in this together" and the volumes and volumes and volumes and volumes of codes, laws, regulations, restrictions, forms, licenses, etc etc etc and the ridiculous beliefs that forcing compliance with "what is good" is our collective task, both internationally and domestically.

It used to enrage me and now just amuses me to watch this Sisyphean hopelessness, accompanied by Sisyphus bellowing that the reason he is failing is because no one "cares" enough. Well, maybe it is the wrong damned job, and you just let the rock go. The reason is: you were fighting for the WRONG GOAL. You can never transform a big entity, a centralized structure. You believe a lie when you believe in "the America that once was"..... in that you believe in a structure which was GOOD FROM THE TOP DOWN. It was always corrupt, rotten, venal, traitorous, and full of hatred for liberty....., you just had more little people who were good, less centralized power, and those forced the big guys to stay more in check. This is why rallies, lobbying, elections, law proposals, and yes, even USSC justices are ultimately a lost cause. Change in society simply does not happen that way. At best it is a rear-guard action.
 
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There are two "public"s in America today. They are MOSTLY divided, or divided most cleanly, by geography. There is almost total rot in the cities. Patriots who haven't moved and don't move are -imo- going to be most disappointed. The people out here "in the middle" (click the link, great song) are different .... really different. COVID is going to be the GREATEST thing for real America. It will provide an income source for disenfranchised rural folk who were sinking into despair and meth and opiods. The people who WANT self reliance, independence, moral standards, local community and a sense of getting away from flitting from one air conditioned sterile box to another (home to work) and then celebrating "art" which promotes every type of moral degeneracy, combined with moral peacocking (virtue signalling) consisting of measuring your goodness by how much you broadcast your feelings of guilt and how much you speak out about the need to force other folk to financially pay for their sins and the sins of their fathers..... those kinds of people are going to leave the cities, along with lots of scared sheep who see the collapse of leftist nuthouse stuff.

It is why I don't sweat the ANTIFA loons who figure out which end of the tube the round comes out. They come out here, the will get their asses shot off. OTOH, you can say "what about the seats of political power... blue cities have the votes." Let me say this as clearly as I know how to say it. VOTES ONLY COUNT IF THE ELECTORATE SEE VOTES AS THE MORAL EQUIVALENT OF MORALITY. Once it dawns on folks that this glorious rippling flag and lusty bellowing of the star spangled banner and teary eyed visions of graveyard crosses is ... (and always has been, in reality) emotional manipulation to convince kids to die in some other country in the name causes that do not affect them, for the back pockets of people who sneer at liberty and justice and freedom.... and JOIN the black populace in understanding that mostly patriotism is a tool to force compliance.... once that happens (and it is coming quickly even to conservative patriots, as the mask comes off the power) ... once that happens, all bets are off. Then, all you will have are cities which are festering parasites, producing some tech (but no longer with the monopoly) but decaying ghosts of what used to make them vibrant and productive. Think "Detroit" and "San Francisco"... crap, think "California." People are going to flee this stuff. They already are. COVID has provided the impetus and it is going to be glorious to see these hellholes rot. Not because of the suffering, but because the lefitsm/collectivism combined with the sneers at solid moral bulwarks for a culture will be shown to be the absolute self devouring, rotting putrid mess it is.

You can't rebuild till you cut the cancer out, and in this case, it is so advanced it has to kill the host.

Welcome to the new "USA" It is revolution time, again. Let's hope and pray for peace, but the old nation is gone, people

You have a lot of good points.

However, Imma have to disagree with you with respect to COVID being the greatest thing for "real America".

Those in power are exceptionally adept at manipulating those they have power over. Not only that, but the longer those in power remain in power (and this included "entities" such as political parties and political institutions), the better they are at contingency plans for probable future eventualities. If nothing else, they develop plans and ideologies which are, themselves, adept at adaptation to changing social, moral, fiscal, and political events.

COVID, therefore, is an OPPORTUNITY for those in power to exercise MORE power.

- It allows them to grant themselves more power and authority over the people.
- It allows them to break down various social, economic, and political groups.
- It allows them to create more division amongst those they have power over, which works against the people and for those in power.
- It allows them to introduce new/novel means to control/extend their authority over the people.
- It allows them to change the mores of those they have power and authority over.
- It allows them to "distract" people from what those in power are doing.

When those who are heavily entrenched in the power and system which allows them to exercise that power over the people long enough, small shifts NEVER work for the "little people" over the long term. It takes a major social/economic/political upset, to the point of actual breakdown of the system itself, to cause an actual shift back towards the "little people". And even so, the creep back towards tyranny will continue.

This is why it is in the best interest of those in power to control what's happening...to prevent it from actually "breaking" the system in which they have power. Smaller changes ALWAYS work out for the benefit of those in power over the people themselves in the long term.
 
(at one time there were over 40,000 white pastors in the Klan).
Wow! That's 40K+ twisters of scripture. These types of things are why the church and our national culture are so weak.
Moses took a black wife (Cushite). Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married, for he had married a Cushite woman.” Then God strikes Miriam with leprosy, rendering her diseased and unclean.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+12&version=NIV
 
You have a lot of good points.

However, Imma have to disagree with you with respect to COVID being the greatest thing for "real America".

Those in power are exceptionally adept at manipulating those they have power over. Not only that, but the longer those in power remain in power (and this included "entities" such as political parties and political institutions), the better they are at contingency plans for probable future eventualities. If nothing else, they develop plans and ideologies which are, themselves, adept at adaptation to changing social, moral, fiscal, and political events.

COVID, therefore, is an OPPORTUNITY for those in power to exercise MORE power.

- It allows them to grant themselves more power and authority over the people.
- It allows them to break down various social, economic, and political groups.
- It allows them to create more division amongst those they have power over, which works against the people and for those in power.
- It allows them to introduce new/novel means to control/extend their authority over the people.
- It allows them to change the mores of those they have power and authority over.
- It allows them to "distract" people from what those in power are doing.

When those who are heavily entrenched in the power and system which allows them to exercise that power over the people long enough, small shifts NEVER work for the "little people" over the long term. It takes a major social/economic/political upset, to the point of actual breakdown of the system itself, to cause an actual shift back towards the "little people". And even so, the creep back towards tyranny will continue.

This is why it is in the best interest of those in power to control what's happening...to prevent it from actually "breaking" the system in which they have power. Smaller changes ALWAYS work out for the benefit of those in power over the people themselves in the long term.

I disagree with precisely zero in your analysis of the motivation of the PTB re: Covid. I am just saying that the innovation and creativity of entrepreneurs is going to cause this to go horribly backwards on them,and instead of increasing control, it is going to increase freedom of movement, and the ability to escape their scaly little clutching claws. People are already fleeing, and it is going to become a tsunami of people leaving metro areas. That is all I am trying to say.

I do not expect a river of news announcing how authorities are exerting LESS control. In fact, you are 100% correct. They are going to use this to become even more dictatorial, imperious, draconian and tyrannical. That is what you will hear on the news, too. The fact is that people are going to leave... BECAUSE THEY CAN. Even if it is to rural counties where the sheriff scoffs at their nonsense and ignores them. That is why this is good.
 
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Wow! That's 40K+ twisters of scripture. These types of things are why the church and our national culture are so weak.
Moses took a black wife (Cushite). Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married, for he had married a Cushite woman.” Then God strikes Miriam with leprosy, rendering her diseased and unclean.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+12&version=NIV
A lot of assumptions here unsupported by the the plain verbage of the text.

Based solely on the scripture, God punished Aaron and Miriam because they spoke against His servant (Moses).

Also, we can never assume the skin color of any of the ancients:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1v9pqs4w1mwrGlCET76Rs99Fx0EfJXE4
 
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