Vaccine Poll

Will you take the vaccine?

  • Yes

    Votes: 38 30.4%

  • No

    Votes: 87 69.6%
  • Total voters
    125
I say NO but work places will probably require it to be able to work and pay your bills.
 
Me. said:
Please post a credible reference that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is looking to pilot a vaccine in Africa because they know it will kill over a half million people.

If I read it right, that's what you're saying.
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It's the internet. We can post unsubstantiated stuff. [emoji2][emoji1][emoji16][emoji38][emoji28][emoji1787][emoji23]
But Gates foundation connected studies have been found to use children in remote areas to do human testing of vaccines.
The HVP vax is one. That vaccine has a high death toll. You don't see much advertising pushing it so much anymore.
That was a Vax worse than the disease.

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RedneckFur said:
If it works, and its offered to me, sure.

I'm not going to go out of my way to seek it out.

I'm the same way with the flu shot. I'm at the doc and they offer it, sure. But I won't make an appointment just for it.
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My oncologist kept pushing me every office visit to get the flu and pneumonia shots. I politely kept telling her that I didn't want them.
The last time she asked, I said ok. She left the room to go set it up with the nurse. I told my wife, "Let's go"
And we did.
Next time I saw the doc, she told me I was very sneaky, lol. I told her I didn't want the shots and didn't plan on changing my mind. She quit pushing.

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Chuckman said:
The flu shot is a dead virus; you cannot get the flu from a flu shot. You CAN get the flu from the mist, which is a live virus. Most people who get a vaccine, and get the flu, get the non-prevalent strain, and not from the injection.
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Chuckman said:
The flu shot is a dead virus; you cannot get the flu from a flu shot. You CAN get the flu from the mist, which is a live virus. Most people who get a vaccine, and get the flu, get the non-prevalent strain, and not from the injection.
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I have been told that by doctors the whole time I was in the service. My anecdotal evidence is this: the years I was able to duck the "mandatory " shot I didn't get sick. The years I got the flu shot, I got sick 2 to 3 days later, usually sick for 3 days bed rest and back to work feeling like crap for another week. One year (one out of 15 that I couldn't duck out) I didn't get sick.

In the 24 years since I retired I have gotten sick with the flu ONE time.

Regarding the SARS-COVID19 vaccinations, all the articles I have seen indicate they will be RNA injections intended to modify the receptors the virus binds to so you don't contract the virus. NOPE TO THE HELL NO. Not getting any vaccine that INTENDS to modify my cellular structure.

Nope... nope ... this reads like the precursor to a bad scifi novel.
 
So, there has been talk for months now of a vaccine and how you may not be able to go to public places without proof you’ve had it. You won’t be able to go to stores, restaurants, etc. Proof might be a certificate on your phone that you show, an app that automatically lets the store know you are vaccinated, or (gasp) an implanted RFID chip in your hand that has your vaccination certificate.

So, without this mark, people can’t engage in commerce? Sound familiar to anyone?

This is already happening with masks, by the way. If you aren’t wearing the mark (mask), you can’t engage in commerce wherever they are enforcing the mask mandate. Next the vaccination. What mark comes after the vaccination? Makes Revelation seem a bit less of a conspiracy theorist’s playground than it did to some people yesterday, no?


And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.​
 
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cubrock said:
So, there has been talk for months now of a vaccine and how you may not be able to go to public places without proof you’ve had it. You won’t be able to go to stores, restaurants, etc. Proof might be a certificate on your phone that you show, an app that automatically lets the store know you are vaccinated, or (gasp) an implanted RFID chip in your hand that has your vaccination certificate.

So, without this mark, people can’t engage in commerce? Sound familiar to anyone?

This is already happening with masks, by the way. If you aren’t wearing the mark (mask), you can’t engage in commerce wherever they are enforcing the mask mandate. Next the vaccination. What mark comes after the vaccination? Makes Revelation seem a bit less of a conspiracy theorist’s playground than it did to some people yesterday, no?


And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.​
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Well if you follow this line of thought, the mark of the beast is already "on" most of us:

Want a job? need a SS number.
Want to drive? Need driver lic. number and insurance policy number
Want to buy a house? turn on water and power? Need bank account number.
How about buying guns? ID, permit, CCW card, background check

Are there some that don't do the above? Yes, but most are the illegals that everyone bitches about.

I would say that 99% on here already have there "number".
 
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mj1angier said:
Well if you follow this line of thought, the mark of the beast is already "on" most of us:

Want a job? need a SS number.
Want to drive? Need driver lic. number and insurance policy number
Want to buy a house? turn on water and power? Need bank account number.
How about buying guns? ID, permit, CCW card, background check

Are there some that don't do the above? Yes, but most are the illegals that everyone bitches about.

I would say that 99% on here already have there "number".
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Not arguing with you there, but we don't currently have something that you have to have to engage in commerce. I'm not calling masks or the vaccine as the mark of the beast, but they are sure in the progression towards something like that (like the list of stuff you gave, which came earlier), conditioning people to readily accept some such restriction in the future.
 
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mj1angier said:
Well if you follow this line of thought, the mark of the beast is already "on" most of us:

Want a job? need a SS number.
Want to drive? Need driver lic. number and insurance policy number
Want to buy a house? turn on water and power? Need bank account number.
How about buying guns? ID, permit, CCW card, background check

Are there some that don't do the above? Yes, but most are the illegals that everyone bitches about.

I would say that 99% on here already have there "number".
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I think Mickey is right here.... sorta. The book of Revelation says it talks of things that "MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS".... that is, everything that is predicted in the book (with the exception of the final wrapping up of all things) HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. Plagues? Done. Persecution? Done. "Great Tribulation"? Done. etc etc.

The question is, will there be an intensification of these things right before the wrap up of time? I think so, and there may be some final codification of the "mark of the beast" -which is NOT simply government tracking you, nor an inability to engage in commerce without gov approval, but rather a linking of that government approval WITH THE OPEN SUPPORT OF AN ANTI GOD WORSHIP- as things wind down. The first century had all trades bound by what were in essence unions, and you could not belong to a the trade guild unless you threw a little incense on the altar to Zeus and said "Caesar is Lord." If you did not, you were expelled from the guild and lost your income. They sneered at the Galileean sect who said "no, only JESUS is Lord" and mocked them, saying "you don't have to mean Caesar is God almighty, just that he is the embodiment of all the good things that you attribute to your mythical sky creature." They refused, and so withdrew from a society permeated by idolatry, that they were charged with being "haters of society." I never understood that until these last few years.

Anyway, I don't think and implanted chip is "the mark of the beast"....., though you will have to kill me or otherwise use force to compel me to do such a damfool thing. The the chip would just be a way to control a passive population. I am not sure being a Christian is the sole reason for me resisting such a thing, but it plays into it.
 
That’s a “no” from me.

Like many others have already stated, I have gotten the flu shot 2 times in my life and that was 25+ years ago, both times I ended up being so sick I thought I was going to actually die, this is when I was the healthiest I had even been in my life.

These days I have serious “trust” issues as it is, not to mention that it makes me uneasy knowing that the same people that are selling the fear are selling the cure.
 
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Tarowah said:
That’s a “no” from me.

Like many others have already stated, I have gotten the flu shot 2 times in my life and that was 25+ years ago, both times I ended up being so sick I thought I was going to actually die, this is when I was the healthiest I had even been in my life.

These days I have serious “trust” issues as it is, not to mention that it makes me uneasy knowing that the same people that are selling the fear are selling the cure.
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This exactly. Same experience.
 
tanstaafl72555 said:
I think Mickey is right here.... sorta. The book of Revelation says it talks of things that "MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS".... that is, everything that is predicted in the book (with the exception of the final wrapping up of all things) HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. Plagues? Done. Persecution? Done. "Great Tribulation"? Done. etc etc.

The question is, will there be an intensification of these things right before the wrap up of time? I think so, and there may be some final codification of the "mark of the beast" -which is NOT simply government tracking you, nor an inability to engage in commerce without gov approval, but rather a linking of that government approval WITH THE OPEN SUPPORT OF AN ANTI GOD WORSHIP- as things wind down. The first century had all trades bound by what were in essence unions, and you could not belong to a the trade guild unless you threw a little incense on the altar to Zeus and said "Caesar is Lord." If you did not, you were expelled from the guild and lost your income. They sneered at the Galileean sect who said "no, only JESUS is Lord" and mocked them, saying "you don't have to mean Caesar is God almighty, just that he is the embodiment of all the good things that you attribute to your mythical sky creature." They refused, and so withdrew from a society permeated by idolatry, that they were charged with being "haters of society." I never understood that until these last few years.

Anyway, I don't think and implanted chip is "the mark of the beast"....., though you will have to kill me or otherwise use force to compel me to do such a damfool thing. The the chip would just be a way to control a passive population. I am not sure being a Christian is the sole reason for me resisting such a thing, but it plays into it.
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Don’t disagree with anything you wrote. For the record, I’m not a frothing Darbyist who sees the end in every little thing. That said, I DO see social conditioning in the mask and vaccination thing that could lead to a populace more easily accepting something like the mark of the beast. Just seems like another step down that road. Same with this renewed push we are seeing to get rid of cash.
 
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