Shooting in Roxboro by cop

So NC is open carry. The 911 operator sought to clarify I hope. Like did the 911 operator ask if the citizen was threatening anyone? No reason for the cops otherwise.
 
According to the Chief of Police on the evening news, it was a "sawed-off shotgun and it WAS loaded". I doubt you will ever hear if he gun was actually legal or not, now will you ever know the name of the 911 caller. I don't remember them saying it was even a resident or not. Could have been someone driving down the road, passing through from "not from around here".
 
A “vigil” just finished at Merritt Commons on S. Main St. It was maybe 50 or 60 people but it there were about a half dozen “outsiders” already starting “no justice no peace”. The head out of town instigator was a short fat woman who started in on they were “going to demand” the video ... problem is there was no body cam. Their “vigil” was 5 minutes about Mr Brooks and 25 minutes about what “we gonna do”. Roxboro and Person Co are now in the crosshairs ...

ETA ... they marched down and are now “protesting” outside the Courthouse and yelling about the Confederate statue in addition to Mr Brooks ... no LEO activity on site yet. The Sheriff and Chief are meeting to decide how to handle this.
 
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so you're saying i need to build ANOTHER cheap AR pistol to put in the trunk of my car, along with the ones i have at each end of the house?
i'm running real short on barrels, guys...
Build it and they will come. ;)
 
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Anyone local have any info on where the ring leaders came from. The couple I noticed on the WRAL video acted too "organized" to have been just someone local protesting.
 
I'll bet you're right. I told my wife I wanted to put some of my equipment in the vehicle and drive up to Roxboro to see if any shopkeepers wanted help. Did any of you people in western NC hear her response?
Lol, I am not out west by any stretch but I did see several bright flashes and loud rumbles from your direction around that time...
 
The video is out....looks like a legit legal shoot to me. cop gets out tells him to drop the gun 2 times, guy points the shotgun up at the officer . The cop fires a single round to the chest. Guy falls and is out. Gun is a sawed off shotgun.

The deceased’s father is now hiring if you will the Crump guy that was used in Trayvon martin, Mike Brown, and others. I am sure “peaceful” protests will ensue again
 
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The video is out....looks like a legit legal shoot to me. cop gets out tells him to drop the gun 2 times, guy points it up at home. cop fires a single round to the chest. Guy falls and is out. Gun is a sawed off shotgun.

The deceased’s father is now hiring if you will the Crump guy that was used in Trayvon martin, Mike Brown, and others. I am sure “peaceful” protests will ensue again

I haven't seen the video. What do you mean, "guy points it up at home"?
Thanks.
 


Watched it on the TV and you could see he raise that gun up twice. First time was kind of half heartedly and the second time is when they took them out.
 
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Watched it on the TV and you could see he raise that gun up twice. First time was kind of half heartedly and the second time is when they took them out.

Watch them say that since he didn't fire the first time he raised it proves he didn't intend to fire the second.

I can't find any fault in their actions.
 
Watch them say that since he didn't fire the first time he raised it proves he didn't intend to fire the second.

I can't find any fault in their actions.

I can’t either, I’m pretty sure if I had been in their shoes, I would have fired the first time he raised it.
 
A “vigil” just finished at Merritt Commons on S. Main St. It was maybe 50 or 60 people but it there were about a half dozen “outsiders” already starting “no justice no peace”. The head out of town instigator was a short fat woman who started in on they were “going to demand” the video ... problem is there was no body cam. Their “vigil” was 5 minutes about Mr Brooks and 25 minutes about what “we gonna do”. Roxboro and Person Co are now in the crosshairs ...

ETA ... they marched down and are now “protesting” outside the Courthouse and yelling about the Confederate statue in addition to Mr Brooks ... no LEO activity on site yet. The Sheriff and Chief are meeting to decide how to handle this.

how far is this from triangle? So tired of this garbage. I’m willing to arm up and protect businesses within 30 min radius.
 
how far is this from triangle? So tired of this garbage. I’m willing to arm up and protect businesses within 30 min radius.

Roxboro is about 20 minutes or so north of The Durham County line On 501.
 
Devil's advocate...

Was it an illegal shotgun? Why the call? Was he a known felon? Was he holding it or was it slung? Couldn't tell from the video.

NC is an open carry state. Possession of a firearm isn't justification for a stop or shooting a citizen. What did he do to bring about the interaction? Just a call from some Karen?

He had a second or two to process the order before being shot. His movement could very well have been him starting to drop the shotgun and when hit, he clutches it...

Just food for thought...

I've walked down a main street in Knightdale with a shotgun over my shoulder when my car broke down and I had to walk. Didn't want to leave it and had no way to hide it. Of course I'm white...
 
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Devil's advocate...

Was it an illegal shotgun? Why the call? Was he a known felon? Was he holding it or was it slung? Couldn't tell from the video.

* As far as illegal or not I don’t know, nor Do I know if his felon status has been stated. The officer from what I was told was called by a caller at the Dollar General that said the man was swinging the gun around In a threatening manner Or threatening folks I think At least it is what I was told.

NC is an open carry state. Possession of a firearm isn't justification for a stop or shooting a citizen. What did he do to bring about the interaction? Just a call from some Karen?
Yes, a call from a customer or worker at the DG

He had a second or two to process the order before being shot. His movement could very well have been him starting to drop the shotgun and when hit, he clutches it...

he could have but, as a Cop he only has a second to process what he sees. So, right or wrong he made a decision.

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I've walked down a main street in Knightdale with a shotgun over my shoulder when my car broke down and I had to walk. Didn't want to leave it and had no way to hide it. Of course I'm white...
 
Devil's advocate...

Was it an illegal shotgun? Why the call? Was he a known felon? Was he holding it or was it slung? Couldn't tell from the video.

NC is an open carry state. Possession of a firearm isn't justification for a stop or shooting a citizen. What did he do to bring about the interaction? Just a call from some Karen?

He had a second or two to process the order before being shot. His movement could very well have been him starting to drop the shotgun and when hit, he clutches it...

Just food for thought...

I've walked down a main street in Knightdale with a shotgun over my shoulder when my car broke down and I had to walk. Didn't want to leave it and had no way to hide it. Of course I'm white...
Fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter who or why the call was made the cops had to respond. They can't sit on their radio and decide whether the call was worthy of their presence without investigating.
 
Fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter who or why the call was made the cops had to respond. They can't sit on their radio and decide whether the call was worthy of their presence without investigating.

Doesn't change the fact of the matter that having a gun isn't a crime...
 
Doesn't change the fact of the matter that having a gun isn't a crime...

I agree 100%, the biggest problem IMO with incidents discussing only "someone walking down the road with a gun" is this.

The litigious society we live in has caused agencies to be so fearful of lawsuits they've basically forbid comm centers from telling callers "that's not illegal" or "sir/ma'am they are doing nothing wrong, we don't send officers out for ______." Operators are taught to "just send them." If a weapon is involved you can hang it up, an officer will be sent. The entire industry has become so risk adverse its not even funny.
 
I agree 100%, the biggest problem IMO with incidents discussing only "someone walking down the road with a gun" is this.

The litigious society we live in has caused agencies to be so fearful of lawsuits they've basically forbid comm centers from telling callers "that's not illegal" or "sir/ma'am they are doing nothing wrong, we don't send officers out for ______." Operators are taught to "just send them." If a weapon is involved you can hang it up, an officer will be sent. The entire industry has become so risk adverse its not even funny.

Even if that's the case, it's no excuse to go weapons hot on citizens from the start. The Karen making the call may not know, but the officer responding has no excuse...
 
did you see the video? cause... that's not what happened.

I saw the video posted above. It's not great quality as far away as the suspect is. I saw a guy on the side of the road with something slung (assuming the shotgun) and a bag in his hand. Cop rolls up on him with his shotgun already out, and in the course of a couple of seconds, shouts twice to drop the gun, and when the guy grabs his shotgun (maybe to shoot, maybe to unsling it and drop it. We'll never know), shoots him...
 
I saw the video posted above. It's not great quality as far away as the suspect is. I saw a guy on the side of the road with something slung (assuming the shotgun) and a bag in his hand. Cop rolls up on him with his shotgun already out, and in the course of a couple of seconds, shouts twice to drop the gun, and when the guy grabs his shotgun (maybe to shoot, maybe to unsling it and drop it. We'll never know), shoots him...

I watched it on a 60". He had a shotgun in his hands, was told to drop it, he then leveled it at the officer, got a second warning, bettered his aim and was then shot. It happened fast but was a good shoot.
 
I saw the video posted above. It's not great quality as far away as the suspect is. I saw a guy on the side of the road with something slung (assuming the shotgun) and a bag in his hand. Cop rolls up on him with his shotgun already out, and in the course of a couple of seconds, shouts twice to drop the gun, and when the guy grabs his shotgun (maybe to shoot, maybe to unsling it and drop it. We'll never know), shoots him...

OK put yourself in a similar situation. Your wife comes in and tells you there is some guy out in the front yard waving a shotgun around your children, you go outside with your weapon and the guy raises the shotgun toward you, what do you do?
 
The article by JT at the top referenced the perp suffered from mental issues.

Like so many other incidents like this in cities and schools, assailants are into drug abuse and/or clinical cases that are not transparent by doctors and HIIPA. That will be extremely difficult to change.
 
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I'm curious to know if this is a regular thing, to go to the convenience store carrying a shotgun?
Maybe just a Roxboro thing?

As to speculation, If I were for some reason walking down a road with a long gun and saw a patrol car stopping near me my hands would be in the air and I would be conversing with the officer and following his instructions.
Unless my intention was to die trying to shoot popo!
 
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