Phase 2 for 5 more weeks in NC

Need to get past the fear. Daughter suggested some ideas, flash mobs showing up at stores. Mask burnings. Strikes at work -- Across NC. Hoping the young start to rebel, I hear more and more of them complaining, and many switched from libs to Trump. This state is more oppressed from Cooper than others, that's a shoe in.

There are ways to protest and get word out by groups and friends . . . have to organize. Should be done NOW.

There should be a backlash at some point. Good to hear it is coming.
 
A gym shares the parking lot with us... all through this mess i've seen plenty of people in workout clothes going in and out. i'm surely not ratting them out. just like we didn't rat out the little church that is also in our lot.
We just had a conference call with our regional boss today and he was saying that we should be forcing people to wear masks, have them leave, and make them go through the trouble of getting a note from their doctor about their health/risk of being in our center... we came back with something along the lines of "our state says that if people have medical reasons, we can't make them - and we had documented her health history of asthma, so we know she's not lying about this. Even if she was, we're not allowed to ask more questions than we would anybody else that does wear a mask." Regional boss was not super happy, but said we should just fall back to distancing and keep her away from everybody else as much as possible.
We need people coming in to justify staying open - we're not going to turn people away over this mess. Bad enough we employees have to wear masks at work 100% of the time we're not eating/drinking... but we've already decided that eating constantly and gaining a few pounds is worth not having to wear them :D

You need only look to Michigan.
I look back at Michigan... and not very fondly. Does that count?
 
Need to get past the fear. Daughter suggested some ideas, flash mobs showing up at stores. Mask burnings. Strikes at work -- Across NC. Hoping the young start to rebel, I hear more and more of them complaining, and many switched from libs to Trump. This state is more oppressed from Cooper than others, that's a shoe in.

There are ways to protest and get word out by groups and friends . . . have to organize. Should be done NOW.

I have heard from more than one that maskless flash mobs would be fun and draw a sht ton of awareness to the idiocy of masks.
 
Serious question - you have a doctor appointment to cut two growths out of your arm and back to be tested to see if they are cancer. Doctor requires you to wear a mask. Do you put it off, or wear the mask to get it taken care of.

Second question - you've pulled a muscle in your back and need to see your chiropractor. When you get there, he has a mask required sign up. Your back is really hurting. Do you wear the mask and get relief, or go home and hurt and it keep you out of work?

Both things happened to me. I decided to wear a mask in both cases, though my chiropractor told me I could take it off when I got in his office. He said he didn't want to get shut down if a customer complained to the state board. His greatest concern with being shut down was his employees being out of work. He is a great guy and very like-minded to many of us here. Doctor is a great guy, too, but has drunk a bit too much of the COVID kool-aid. Though, he has been willing to be challenged on it during discussion - like when he was cutting on me. Listened and responded respectfully to my comments. I listened and responded respectfully to his.

These are the only two times I've worn a mask. Didn't like it either time, but figured those instances were important enough for my health to do it. Just curious your take if faced with those scenarios.
I think those are extreme instances where being forced would have to be tolerated. I have to take a DOT drug test by the end of the month, we do those at the hospital. I know I won’t have a choice but to wear a mask there. I’m not going to be happy about it but much like your chiropractor I’ll be forced into it.
 
I told Kelly months ago, that King Coop would just keep extending this crap out, a month or two at a time for pretty much the rest of the year. Man, I hit that nail on the head.
My boss hasn't required mask at our shop. He left it up to us if we wanted to. There's about 5 people out of 53 that do. But, he also said he would not tolerate any one shaming either way , whatever choice you chose, at all, so be respectful. He's not a mask wearer just to be clear, lol. On King Coop, I did talk to a lady yesterday that said she thought he was doing a great job, and if people would just "wear a damn mask" we'd already be into that latter stages........yeah, ok. I told her that I see more people wearing mask currently, and that most places you go to now have mask requirements, so how would she explain that. She said, "because there's still too many rebel's out there like you, who defy his order". Now, let that sink in a minute.
 
I'm expecting the covids to be in the rear view mirror on Nov 9th.

My son's gym just went out of business, me wife's a wedding florist and she's been shut down again. King Coop is A OK with large crowds protesting, commiting arson, rioting, but you'll be penalized if a family celebration is committed!
 
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I think the mask hysteria is a cross between a Hail Mary at stopping the spread and giving the idiot, non thinking, masses something to clutch to in order to give them a sense of control. It’s a fear mitigation tactic. Just look at the screaming army of Karens that are assaulting others for not wearing them, or wearing them improperly. It’s irrational fear.

The science shows that virus particles are much smaller than even a HEPA filter. At most, used and disposed of properly, it might help mitigate the spread by someone infected who is coughing or sneezing.
 
I think the mask hysteria is a cross between a Hail Mary at stopping the spread and giving the idiot, non thinking, masses something to clutch to in order to give them a sense of control. It’s a fear mitigation tactic. Just look at the screaming army of Karens that are assaulting others for not wearing them, or wearing them improperly. It’s irrational fear.

The science shows that virus particles are much smaller than even a HEPA filter. At most, used and disposed of properly, it might help mitigate the spread by someone infected who is coughing or sneezing.


And, who is responsible for the mass hysteria? The same people pushing and mandating the masks.
 
And, who is responsible for the mass hysteria? The same people pushing and mandating the masks.
Overall the US response to SARS-CoV2 has been poor. It has been plagued with shortages, misinformation, fraud science, politics, etc. We lack leadership and instead of leaders we have managers. If anything it's the media that has been pushing the hype that is causing he hysteria and a lack of true leadership makes it worse.
 
Overall the US response to SARS-CoV2 has been poor. It has been plagued with shortages, misinformation, fraud science, politics, etc. We lack leadership and instead of leaders we have managers. If anything it's the media that has been pushing the hype that is causing he hysteria and a lack of true leadership makes it worse.

Yep, Democrats wanting to swing elections and spineless Republicans afraid to reign it in.
 
AT (my wife): How did you know?
JT: How did you not?

Her perspective and mine have diverged markedly over the years.
Mine and my wife's have as well, I told her last night there is no way I will take a COVID-19 Vaccine, she was like we might have to get divorced if you become and anti-vaxxer I said I am not anit-vax but I have not taken the flu shot since I got out of the Army and have not been sick, in fact neither have you, this is less lethal than the flu so I am not doing it period.
 
The financial incentives for fraud combined with a gov't that wants more bad news ensures that the fraud will not be investigated at all. At least not at the state level.
Hospitals have been forced to not admit for non-life threatening conditions so revenue is way down.
The ultimate irony is that the same people that accused hospitals of over charging, over admitting, over prescribing surgery, are all now saying that it should be illegal to question hospital ethics.
 
Overall the US response to SARS-CoV2 has been poor. It has been plagued with shortages, misinformation, fraud science, politics, etc. We lack leadership and instead of leaders we have managers. If anything it's the media that has been pushing the hype that is causing he hysteria and a lack of true leadership makes it worse.


My point. Media are pushing masks for reasons of their own. Politicians are mandating masks for reasons of their own. Both groups are pushing the hysteria for reasons of their own. Very few of either group are doing it because they believe it will help stop the spread of the virus.
 
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