Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game

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https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops...plaint-over-video-game-AsvFt-AHpkeQlcgNj5qiTA

Ryan Whitaker was sitting at home with his girlfriend playing video games when he was killed by police.
A noise complaint from an annoyed neighbor resulted in cops shooting and killing a man within five seconds of him opening his front door.

Ryan Whitaker opened the door holding a gun in his right hand which is legal in Arizona but it made the cops fear for their lives.

However, the cops never gave him a chance to put the gun down which he appeared to be trying to do when one cop shot him in the back three times.

"Why did you guys shoot him?" Whitaker's girlfriend, Brandee Nees, yelled as she stepped into the doorway.

"He just pulled a gun on us, ma'am," Phoenix police officer Jeff Cooke said.

"Because it's dark and someone just knocked on the door," Nees responded.

When Phoenix police officer John Ferragamo asked Nees if she and Whitaker had been fighting, she told him they were only playing video games.

"Literally we were making salsa and playing Crash Bandicoot so there may have been some screaming from PlayStation but it wasn’t domestic violence or anything," she said.
 
Normally I don’t partake in threads like thsi.

but, thay was straight murder. They didn’t give him a chance to comply with orders given, no threatening movements just let me see you hands, and 3 shots in to the back.

thats murder and the dumb@$$ neighbor should be an accessory to it also as false info was given to dispatch to get them to hurry. Hey scooter, ear plugs work wonders.
 
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If the officer was at his or her home would they have a firearm in hand to answer the door ?
 
Appears he was going to the ground, handgun low, shot in the back three times. If they were responding to a possible domestic situation then one LEO should have had Taser low ready. On the other hand, if they dispatched two social workers that man would be alive today.
 
DrSideways said:
Time to burn city hall? Paint on the roads?
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Yep, Phoenix will see some crap in the next 24 to 48 hours ... and very very likely after dark since it’s 110° plus (nights dropping to a brisk 85° plus) along with bright sunshine in Phoenix now and foreseeable future. Yeah, I know it’s a dry heat but protesting and rioting on pavement that hit 160°-170° mid-day in the Sun ain’t going to be a time they choose. They’ll wait for sundown and the protests will turn riot real quick.

Ooops ... I assumed he was black (guess I’m at least prejudice ... but I am not racist) but he was a white guy so I’m probably wrong about protests and riots ... unless he was. card carrying BLM member and then maybe a little vigil if that.
 
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That would/could have been me just as easily. You don't knock on my door especially after dark.

I have had the sheriff come to my door and want to talk and I've asked him if I can put my gun away first. I don't answer the door by pulling it wide open in the first place.
 
NCFubar said:
Yep, Phoenix will see some crap in the next 24 to 48 hours ... and very very likely after dark since it’s 110° plus (nights dropping to a brisk 85° plus) along with bright sunshine in Phoenix now and foreseeable future. Yeah, I know it’s a dry heat but protesting and rioting on pavement that hit 160°-170° mid-day in the Sun ain’t going to be a time they choose. They’ll wait for sundown and the protests will turn riot real quick.
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Nope, I disagree. You won't hear a thing about this one.
 
BASIL said:
This happened in May. So no, no protests.
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It happened in May? A buddy just told me about it today, and this post popped up today. I assumed it was new. It doesn't fit the narrative, there is no wonder we haven't heard about it.
 
guy did seem to “barge” out of the house a little bit aggressively but damn!!!

the don’t open the door thing is really good advice. Also probably shouldn’t stand directly in front/behind the door like the cops
 
There was no threat there. If that is a justified shooting then I would be justified shooting a police officer if he knocked on my door with a gun drawn. Why were they drawing their weapons for a noise complaint anyway.
 
blewis3 said:
Why were they drawing their weapons for a noise complaint anyway.
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Because the dumb ass neighbor told them " I hear doors slamming, could be someone being thrown into them... "
He put the thought into them that there was a domestic fight going on.
 
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stand way off to the sides where he probably couldn't see them even if he tried, and be surprised when he answers the door a little bit skeptical?
 
Mirac said:
Because the dumb ass neighbor told them " I hear doors slamming, could be someone being thrown into them... "
He put the thought into them that there was a domestic fight going on.
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Reminds me of this, rather lengthy, article I saw yesterday: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/w...th-a-better-911-system/ar-BB17MORr?li=BBnba9O

Basically, it discusses how the 911 system, which defaults to the most dangerous possibility in the face of conflicting information, plays a part in incidents like this. It also looks at possible improvements to the 911 system to better identify the need and couple this with more appropriate, non police, response options.
 
noway2 said:
Reminds me of this, rather lengthy, article I saw yesterday: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/w...th-a-better-911-system/ar-BB17MORr?li=BBnba9O

Basically, it discusses how the 911 system, which defaults to the most dangerous possibility in the face of conflicting information, plays a part in incidents like this. It also looks at possible improvements to the 911 system to better identify the need and couple this with more appropriate, non police, response options.
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(I didnt read the article ) That will be harder than hell to get accurate information to go on.
Just as this case proved, the caller has to work in the morning and cant get any sleep, wants something done and starts making words so others believe there's a domestic going on.

Even if it's an innocent description, it still up to the callers feelings and interpretation on what force will be needed.
 
Mirac said:
(I didnt read the article )
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You might want to as you might find it interesting. Granted the original was published by Vox, which is often times leftist, but I found it surprisingly well written and thought out rather than biased.
That will be harder than hell to get accurate information to go on.
Just as this case proved, the caller has to work in the morning and cant get any sleep, wants something done and starts making words so others believe there's a domestic going on.

Even if it's an innocent description, it still up to the callers feelings and interpretation on what force will be needed.
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This is the sort of thing that the article gets into. It starts with a discussion of an experiment that was done by a police use of force trainer. In short, the experiment was a shoot - no shoot simulation involving a suspicious person. Half the cops we're told that dispatched received a call of a man with a gun and the other half were told the man was seen with a phone. The scenario could be either and they didn't know which they were going to get. I forget the exact numbers, but the ones that were told he had a gun were far more likely to shoot than the ones told he had a phone. In other words, the information conveyed from the call center can have a marked difference on the outcome and whether or not it is a desirable and favorable one. The article then goes on to examine the current situation, posits the question of could we improve upon the roll of 911 operators to better tailor the response to calls. The example of the guy making words simply to get a forceful response is an example of where a better approach than taking everything at face value and reporting the most dangerous possibility when the information is ambiguous is the sort of thing where it looks at how to do better.
 
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