Swaging...well, this stinks

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So....I'm there. Ran into some military crimps on 223 brass. Have the Lee little handheld thing but man, that's a lot of work.

What process/tool do you use to make your life easier?
 
Even with the Dillon, in my humble experience, its good to separate out the brass by head stamp. Being my anal self I like to debur the flash holes first, makes the swaging easier.
 
I've tried cutting the crimps out using the RCBS military crimp remover (works fairly well but slow), the C4HD swager (hard to keep adjusted right) and the Dillon swager. The Dillon was the best of all those options. I now have the Lee APP press and the swager attachment. I like it the best by far.
 
So....I'm there. Ran into some military crimps on 223 brass. Have the Lee little handheld thing but man, that's a lot of work.

What process/tool do you use to make your life easier?

The Hornady primer pocket reamer (small version) $10 and the RCBS military crimp remover $20. Both in my drill. I may pick up the RCBS primer pocket swager combo 2. We'll see.
 
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So....I'm there. Ran into some military crimps on 223 brass. Have the Lee little handheld thing but man, that's a lot of work.

What process/tool do you use to make your life easier?

FYI- RCBS is running promotions on their stuff until August 31st. Spend over $100 get $50 back. Over $250 get $75 back. Over $400 get $100 back.

I just bought their bench swager from Bass Pro. After the rebate it'll be $57. Not too shabby. It will save a lot of time and wear and tear on my drill.
 
I use the RCBS military crimp remover in my FA Platinum case prep machine. It works really well, I like that you can’t go too deep, haven’t yet run into an issue with it. This isn’t the fastest but for moderate volume shooting (ex. not shooting monthly matches) it’s a great choice.
 
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I have both the RCBS primer pocket, bench mounted swaging tool and the press mounted Dillon swager. The Dillon press mounted tool didn't swage enough so I just re-swaged 1000 cases with the rcbs bench swager. Primers go in great. I hate to give up on the Dillon because I can feed them with the case feeder and decap and swage fast with an extra toolhead on the 650. Hope to get it figured out.
 
I have both the RCBS primer pocket, bench mounted swaging tool and the press mounted Dillon swager. The Dillon press mounted tool didn't swage enough so I just re-swaged 1000 cases with the rcbs bench swager. Primers go in great. I hate to give up on the Dillon because I can feed them with the case feeder and decap and swage fast with an extra toolhead on the 650. Hope to get it figured out.
I didn't know Dillon made a press-mounted swager, except on the 1050 and CP2000. Do they have one for the 650?
 
I had the Dillon super swage, and the RCBS primer pocket swager combo. Both worked equally as good IMO. Way easier than cutting the crimp out
 
I didn't know Dillon made a press-mounted swager, except on the 1050 and CP2000. Do they have one for the 650?
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I didn't know Dillon made a press-mounted swager, except on the 1050 and CP2000. Do they have one for the 650?
Look up Dillon 650 swage it and you should find it. You screw out your primer ram underneath and the swager attaches to the press by removing a small part that is on the press frame. If I can get it to swage correctly, it would be nice because I can run them through the case feeder and use a toolhead to universal decap. The at the priming stage (2nd stage) it swaged like you are priming. I had to swage my pockets again but I may be doing something wrong. I am going to play with it a little more.
 
Dillon $100 thingy that squishes the crimp out. If a recent thunder storm hadnt cost me $2000 I would have the Dillon 1100 with swaging station.
 
I chuck an RCBS deburring tool into my drill press and go at the primer pocket until the crimp is removed. I then use a gauge to measure each primer pocket to insure it isn't too tight or too loose. I then chuck the primer pocket cleaner thingy into the drill press and clean the crud out of the pocket. Takes a while but I generally don't reload more then 200 .223 cases at a time. I do the trimming the same way with a Forster tool and my drill press. Actually that is pretty much all I use the drill press for. It is a harbor freight machine and works just fine for that task.
 
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