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GRNC Alert:

If you are “Mad As Hell And Not Going To Take It Anymore,” we have just the activity for you: GRNC’s demonstration against Sheriff Gerald Baker and his refusal to issue pistol purchase and concealed handgun permits to lawful citizens.

But this isn’t just about Baker: GRNC plans to demonstrate to sheriffs and legislators across the state that we are “mad as hell” about both the widespread inability of citizens to obtain guns to protect their families and the collusion of leftist media and leftist politicians to undermine our rights … permanently, if they win the election.


https://www.grnc.org/defend-your-ri...mad-as-hell-a-right-delayed-is-a-right-denied
 
Under § 14-277.2(a), “It shall be unlawful for any person participating in, affiliated with, or present as a spectator at any … demonstration upon any private health care facility or upon any public place owned or under the control of the State or any of its political subdivisions to willfully or intentionally possess or have immediate access to any dangerous weapon.

So no carrying a gun for this, I'm presuming?:mad:
 
Under § 14-277.2(a), “It shall be unlawful for any person participating in, affiliated with, or present as a spectator at any … demonstration upon any private health care facility or upon any public place owned or under the control of the State or any of its political subdivisions to willfully or intentionally possess or have immediate access to any dangerous weapon.

So no carrying a gun for this, I'm presuming?:mad:
Correct! Just one of the numerous reasons I will not be attending. (Not that I don't approve of the protest in general.)
 
Correct! Just one of the numerous reasons I will not be attending. (Not that I don't approve of the protest in general.)
I was actually thinking of going. I hate Raleigh, but I was going to go anyway. Until I read that part.

I'm thinking it's not smart to go in amongst a bunch of people unarmed...maybe I'm a wuss.
 
I was actually thinking of going. I hate Raleigh, but I was going to go anyway. Until I read that part.

I'm thinking it's not smart to go in amongst a bunch of people unarmed...maybe I'm a wuss.

Or maybe you are exercising good common sense.
 
I was actually thinking of going. I hate Raleigh, but I was going to go anyway. Until I read that part.

I'm thinking it's not smart to go in amongst a bunch of people unarmed...maybe I'm a wuss.

Not a wuss at all. I worked downtown for years. Not too bad during the week. Weekends are a whole different story. All the homeless and crackheads are out panhandling.
 
Not a wuss at all. I worked downtown for years. Not too bad during the week. Weekends are a whole different story. All the homeless and crackheads are out panhandling.
Glad I'm not going, then.
I'm not real fond of crowds in the best of circumstances, and I'm not real fond of people in general....lol....except y'all here, that is!:)
 
Dang it, we brung em to the dance!
 
Under § 14-277.2(a), “It shall be unlawful for any person participating in, affiliated with, or present as a spectator at any … demonstration upon any private health care facility or upon any public place owned or under the control of the State or any of its political subdivisions to willfully or intentionally possess or have immediate access to any dangerous weapon.

So no carrying a gun for this, I'm presuming?:mad:
Parades and funerals are exempted for those with a carry permit, but mot the other crap. Idiot libtards still think you need to be “legislatively prohibited” in other “demonstrations”. The dorks don’t seem to get that anyone who is going to cause issues or intends to commit violence isn’t going to pay any attention to this. Nice again, it only serves to render the victim defenseless.
 
SO, to recap ... is anybody from here going or planning to go?

I'm very conflicted (duh!) On the one hand, I am historically committed to grass roots activism, but in this day and age the political climate makes that not just difficult but dangerous.

On the third hand, it would be really cool to have a CFF Cadre show up in business attire and work aggressively to get camera time to deliver a strong logical message of liberty for all and respect for the will of the people.

 
I have made the decision that I will not travel to areas or participate in things where I cannot be armed.

Not seeing a gun buster sign in your home state or a 2a friendly state will only result in you being asked to leave. Being caught at a protest or in an anti carry state like MD will possibly result in jail time and loss of your carry permit.

I choose to refrain, which sucks. A year ago I would have left the gun in the truck and gone. Right now I will not be unarmed. Period.
 
I choose to refrain, which sucks. A year ago I would have left the gun in the truck and gone. Right now I will not be unarmed. Period.
Agreed. Events like this, especially where the opposition that intends to cause problems, knows that you are either disarmed or illegally armed with either case making you a choice target creates an elevated level of danger.

Oh, the irony of a situation of a protest because a legal functionary (the sheriff) is negligent and remiss in his duties to grant permission for what is, and should be treated as, a fundamental right being held in an area where that right is denied, presumably in the name of safety (because you know we're all gun nuts that will shoot the place up) creating an unsafe situation.....
 
I have made the decision that I will not travel to areas or participate in things where I cannot be armed.

Not seeing a gun buster sign in your home state or a 2a friendly state will only result in you being asked to leave. Being caught at a protest or in an anti carry state like MD will possibly result in jail time and loss of your carry permit.

I choose to refrain, which sucks. A year ago I would have left the gun in the truck and gone. Right now I will not be unarmed. Period.
I would also love to go, but I also will not be unarmed in a crowd with the way things have panned out lately.
Not going into a crowd, period....unless it's a crowd of you guys! Then I'd be in the safest place on the planet.:)
 
Under § 14-277.2(a), “It shall be unlawful for any person participating in, affiliated with, or present as a spectator at any … demonstration upon any private health care facility or upon any public place owned or under the control of the State or any of its political subdivisions to willfully or intentionally possess or have immediate access to any dangerous weapon.

So no carrying a gun for this, I'm presuming?:mad:

Correct. It's that pesky "One at a Time" clause in the Bill of Rights. I did a quick read and can't find it in my copy but I'm sure it's in there somewhere.
 
§ 14-277.2(a), “It shall be unlawful for any person participating in, affiliated with, or present as a spectator at any … demonstration upon any private health care facility or upon any public place owned or under the control of the State or any of its political subdivisions to willfully or intentionally possess or have immediate access to any dangerous weapon.

The public street in front on a country office is considered under control of the state (or county/city)?
I truly wonder just how far King Baker Aeneas crew would actually push “under control” not that I’d want to be part of the test group.

What exactly is a “dangerous weapon”? Firearm, I’ll conceded that ... pocket or folding knife, I’d even go along with that ... but after those where does the line fall? Pepper Spray ... small collapsible baton ... simple walking cane?

I would definitely not carry a firearm and even my EDC folder would be left behind in the MiniVault but after that where is the line drawn?

As Paul and the GRNC have always said ... DRESS AND ACT properly! But just how far can King Baker and the liberal gooberment reach?
 
I have made the decision that I will not travel to areas or participate in things where I cannot be armed.

Not seeing a gun buster sign in your home state or a 2a friendly state will only result in you being asked to leave. Being caught at a protest or in an anti carry state like MD will possibly result in jail time and loss of your carry permit.

I choose to refrain, which sucks. A year ago I would have left the gun in the truck and gone. Right now I will not be unarmed. Period.
Exactly!
 
I just got this email I think it’s a Smart move by GRNC


-—————————————
Gun Rights Supporters:


Unfortunately, GRNC is cancelling the demonstration against Sheriff Gerald Baker over his refusal to comply with the law in issuing gun permits which was scheduled for September 26, and here is why.

Our office has been receiving a regular string of emails and voice messages with variations of, “I’ve been a member and supporter of GRNC for years, but this demonstration is scheduled for a political environment in which crazies from the left are lobbing bricks and Molotov cocktails, and under North Carolina law, I’m not allowed to carry a firearm for self-protection at a demonstration.”

To the thousands of GRNC members who have expressed those sentiments in either words or thoughts, I say: “I hear you.”

It is a sad day when lawful citizens can’t peacefully assemble for a redress of political grievances without fear of radical Marxists attacking them for simply expressing their views, but unfortunately, that day is upon us.

GRNC will address your inability to protect yourself during a peaceful assembly in the next session of the legislation ... if we win the election.

It is increasingly obvious that the only way out of this poisonous environment we face is a decisive victory in the 2020 elections – not just a victory, but an overwhelming victory.

Rigging the election

As I write this, Democrats are busy rigging the election, not just nationally, but right here in North Carolina.

Yesterday, the Democrat-dominated State Board of Elections decided to “help” all those poor voters who fail to properly complete or mail the absentee ballots Democrats insist they must use. In an election rife with voter fraud, this will be “hanging chads” times ten.

The point of all the mail-in ballot nonsense, of course, is to undermine the legitimacy of an election they expect Donald Trump and Republicans to win.

Why we must have overwhelming victory

By claiming a Trump victory “illegitimate” after a narrow win, leftists will look for any excuse to riot, burn and otherwise tear down our society in order to replace it with their “Great Socialist Utopia.”

A narrow victory will give Obama-appointed judges and “deep state” boards of elections an opportunity to manufacture enough “hanging chads” to declare victory.

And don’t forget that North Carolina is one of a handful of critical “battleground states.”

Decisive victory depends on YOU!

To win overwhelmingly, you must not only go to the polls, but also:

Check your voter registration to ensure it is updated and valid;

If you using an absentee ballot, check your ballot carefully and mail it early (rest assured you won’t get the same “help” Democrats will);
Distribute GRNC “Remember in November” voter guides to like-minded friends, family, acquaintances, and co-workers;

Bring like-minded voters to the polls; and finally

Help GRNC elect pro-gun candidates by contributing to the GRNC Political Victory Fund.

As you know, GRNC is limited in using membership funds to impact elections. Accordingly, we created our federal PAC, GRNC-PVF, to elect candidates who will support your freedom.

Please contribute by going to: www.grnc.org/pvf

With your help, we will decisively win the 2020 elections, and by so doing defeat the radical left and end the poisonous political environment they have created.


Armatissimi e liberissimi,




F. Paul Valone
President, Grass Roots North Carolina
Executive Director, Rights Watch International

Radio host, Guns, Politics and Freedom


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Disarming to make myself an easier victim for the opposition was my deciding reason not to go, and it looks like I was not alone. Once again the left wins because they're protected by the .gov and it's threats of violence against those that disagree.

I'm sorta waiting for some vendor to make 'tactical skateboards' and such for events like this.
 
Wasn't the 'trick' done in Raleigh earlier was "just being there at the same time, not protesting or demonstrating" and open-carrying?
 
Short of tar and feathering nothing will change, and that won’t happen because the deputies will protect him. You can vote super hard this election, protest until that’s all you do 24/7 and it ain’t changing. Violence or you deciding it’s not worth the fight. Those are the options.
 
GRNC cancelled the "generally peaceful" protest, apparently because no one was willing to be there disarmed. People got more sense than I gave them credit for -- in this specific case, that is.
 
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By the way, not to hijack the thread, but I want to remind you all that the Wake County range is STILL CLOSED to the public, the excuse now is the COVID.
 
Yes...like me, he's bound to hit something eventually....just have to be sure he's pointed in the right direction-ish.....
Jeppo hits all kinds of stuff just not what he's aiming at at times. He does do kill shots most of the time just make sure you're behind him then if it comes back it'll have to go thru him first. I'd stand with him in a gunfight
 
§ 14-277.2(a), “It shall be unlawful for any person participating in, affiliated with, or present as a spectator at any … demonstration upon any private health care facility or upon any public place owned or under the control of the State or any of its political subdivisions to willfully or intentionally possess or have immediate access to any dangerous weapon.

The public street in front on a country office is considered under control of the state (or county/city)?
I truly wonder just how far King Baker Aeneas crew would actually push “under control” not that I’d want to be part of the test group.

What exactly is a “dangerous weapon”? Firearm, I’ll conceded that ... pocket or folding knife, I’d even go along with that ... but after those where does the line fall? Pepper Spray ... small collapsible baton ... simple walking cane?

I would definitely not carry a firearm and even my EDC folder would be left behind in the MiniVault but after that where is the line drawn?

As Paul and the GRNC have always said ... DRESS AND ACT properly! But just how far can King Baker and the liberal gooberment reach?


BUT:

He brought a semi-automatic rifle to a rumored KKK rally. Here’s why he got off.

February 08, 2018

Durham

A man arrested for bringing a semi-automatic rifle to a KKK counterprotest last summer had his case dismissed Thursday when a judge ruled the charge was unconstitutional.


Dwayne Dixon faced the misdemeanor after he brought the rifle to downtown Durham Aug. 18 amid rumors of a white supremacist rally that never materialized.


District Court Judge James T. Hill dismissed the charge after Dixon’s attorney, Scott Holmes, argued the law was overly broad and infringed upon the the First and Second Amendments rights to assemble and to bear arms.


https://www.heraldsun.com/news/local/crime/article199048869.html
 
BUT:

He brought a semi-automatic rifle to a rumored KKK rally. Here’s why he got off.

February 08, 2018

Durham

A man arrested for bringing a semi-automatic rifle to a KKK counterprotest last summer had his case dismissed Thursday when a judge ruled the charge was unconstitutional.


Dwayne Dixon faced the misdemeanor after he brought the rifle to downtown Durham Aug. 18 amid rumors of a white supremacist rally that never materialized.


District Court Judge James T. Hill dismissed the charge after Dixon’s attorney, Scott Holmes, argued the law was overly broad and infringed upon the the First and Second Amendments rights to assemble and to bear arms.

https://www.heraldsun.com/news/local/crime/article199048869.html

Our wonderful Just Us system, the broken clock that is right twice a day.
 
Handgun purchase permits are an old Jim Crow law to prevent blacks from buying handguns. It is not required by federal law and should be repealed.
 
Nice work partnering with others against Sheriff Baker. Hope it goes well for all plantiffs. Keep work for us. Its appreciated.
 
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