Extremist group planned to kidnap MI Governor

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News reports one of the men in custody was pardoned for previous crimes dating to 1994.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/delaware-suspect-whitmer-plot-pardoned-201513253.html

Catch and release, works everytime.

In April 2019, one week after Delaware revenue officials filed a state tax lien against Croft for more than $36,700, Democratic Gov. John Carney granted him a pardon for the 1997 gun charge and several other convictions from 1994 to 1996. The crimes involved included assault, burglary, theft and receiving stolen property.
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Seems a lot like a "they will eat their own" story
 
So if they kidnapped her, put her on trial and then hung the bitch, who’d loose!? She’d be gone and they’d be in jail, win/win as I see it. Jus sayin...
 
The FBI, Militias, Truth and Comey's Legacy - https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16644/fbi-militias-comey

From the web page:

Is it possible that the militia story [about planning to kidnap the governor of Michigan] is another contrived, anti-Trump, smear job by elements within the FBI?

The FBI's reputation has been destroyed through blatant politicization. Here are the corrupt political police: Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Clinesmith, Pientka, Brower, Baker, et al. That is a collection of various dirty cops, oath-breakers, coup-plotters, and persons "lacking candor" in FBI parlance.


"Members of the group bought weapons, conducted surveillance and held training and planning meetings, but they were foiled in part because the FBI infiltrated the group with informants, according to a criminal complaint. Six were charged with federal kidnapping offenses, and at least seven others face state charges." [Emphasis added]

Also pay attention to this excerpt from the news report:

"The FBI used confidential informants as part of the investigation and has paid one of them more than $14,000 and paid $8,600 to another, according to the affidavit."
 
so not only are the feds pushing people to ideas, they're using my money to pay other people to back them up in doing that...
sounds legit
 
The reports from the one atty that up until it the FBI operative pushed them into acting that they would have done nothing but sit around, drink beer, and talk reminds me of a the story a coworker told me about being on a jury.

The story from the trial goes: a drunk guy comes out of a bar, opens his car and sits there. He does not start the car, he does not even put the keys in the ignition, but sits there. Cop who saw him from across the parking lot, pulls up, parks behind him, and approaches the drunk. The cop then told him to start the car and then told him to back up, both of which the drunk did and subsequently hit the police car earning him a DUI and a trip to jail. Everyone except my (former) coworker on the jury was ready to convict him for obvious drunk driving. My (former) coworker argued that this was incorrect because until such time as the cop ordered him to start and operate the vehicle he had not met that state's definition of DUI and that had he been approached there is no telling what he would have done as he might have been trying decide if he was too intoxicated to drive and may have gone back inside and asked for a call to a taxi. Some may try to argue that it is unlikely and that he would have driven the car, but the fact is that you don't know and ultimately they convinced the jury of this and the guy was found not guilty.
 
In that story the cop should be arrested for endangering the public. I agree you can't arrest someone for something they might do, only if they do it. And if the FBI paid people....isn't that entrapment (and the cop in the story above)?

entrapment

noun law Action by law enforcement personnel to lead an otherwise innocent person to commit a crime, in order to arrest and prosecute that person for the crime.

noun a defense that claims the defendant would not have broken the law if not tricked into doing it by law enforcement officials
 
NC Rob said:
In that story the cop should be arrested for endangering the public. I agree you can't arrest someone for something they might do, only if they do it. And if the FBI paid people....isn't that entrapment (and the cop in the story above)?
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Similar (drunk) story. My wife and I were at dinner at a local Applebees. There was a guy at the bar, obviously intoxicated, and when the bartender tried to cut him off he got belligerent. So, the bartender followed the proper protocol, poured him another one, and called the cops. The cops came in and talked to the guy for a while. They got up and started to leave. The guy got agitated and was pointing back at where he was sitting at the bar. I could see that he left his wallet sitting on the bar and that it was obvious he wanted it (duh - who would want to leave something like that). The cops wouldn't let him get it, nor did one of them go get it for him. He kept getting more and more agitated over something that was obvious and they kept refusing to deescalate the situation. Finally the guy hauled off and hit one of the cops in the face getting him face planted, cuffed, and hauled out. At this point the bartender grabbed the wallet and brought it up to the other cop. All three of them had a chance to deescalate the situation and the guy would have probably left peacefully and the limit of his troubles would have been public intoxication, but no, they had to push his buttons until they got a reaction.

I wanted to see if I could find out who that was and at least make a statement to his attorney, but I was concerned about retaliatory harassment.
 
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Want a good laugh this morning (and probably no surprise to anyone): Suspects Say Ring Leader in Plot to Kidnap Wretched Governor Whitmer Was an Alleged FBI Informant — Who Pushed the Entire Plan

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...mer-alleged-fbi-informant-pushed-entire-plan/

This didn’t make any headlines.
The ring leader in the plot to kidnap wretched Governor Gretchen Whitmer was an FBI informant.
He was planted into the group and was the one who pushed the entire plan.

So, Antifa-BLM riots, loots and pillages cities across the US.
FBI Director Chris Wray warns Congress about the dangers of “white supremacist groups.”
And then two weeks later the FBI arrests a group of middle class gun nuts and patriots and accuse them of plotting to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer.
And now we find out days later it was the FBI informant who pushed the entire plot?

The NOQReport reported:

In the case of the alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, were big talkers pushed into the early stages of big action by an FBI informant?

Early court proceedings have begun in the cases against the six men accused of plotting to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. Mainstream media is covering every nuance as best they can since this is being spun by Democrats as a way to blame President Trump for extremism. But one important detail from the bond hearings has been buried or altogether omitted from reporting. It’s the type of detail that has conspiracy theorists asking more questions.

Deep within a story from the Detroit Free Press is a potential bombshell if it pans out as true.

Defense attorneys for the guys accused of plotting to kidnap the governor of Michigan say “one of the most active leaders” was an FBI informant who “pushed” the rest of the group to engage in a “crackpot” scheme https://t.co/gtn0LooHDP

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) October 13, 2020


Defense lawyers contend that there was no probable cause to arrest and charge the suspect, arguing, among other things, that the suspects had no operational plan to do anything, were engaged in all legal activities — including talking in encrypted group chats and practicing military exercises with lawfully owned guns — and that it was the informants and undercover agents who “pushed” others to do illegal things.
 
"It's the last thing you want for a major case like this," he told the Detroit News. "Any time you give the defense any ammunition, it's not good."

So.. when did all of his bad behavior start, and should he have have been terminated earlier?
 
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DrScaryGuy said:
"It's the last thing you want for a major case like this," he told the Detroit News. "Any time you give the defense any ammunition, it's not good."

So.. when did all of his bad behavior start, and should he have have been terminated earlier?
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He was mad Bringer Inn in Saginaw changed ownership.
 
Hammer12b said:
So if they kidnapped her, put her on trial and then hung the bitch, who’d loose!? She’d be gone and they’d be in jail, win/win as I see it. Jus sayin...
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The moment she opened that gaping maw of hers - and they realized they'd either hafta listen to her, OR feed her - would've sped matters up considerably! 😬
 
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