No guns on public busses ?

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durham bus pulled up next to me and saw the sign. I never ride busses but what statute would this fall under ?
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Hey, that's Durham for you. All those mass shootings on the busses!! Or maybe they're afraid you might hijack it and crash it into a building and kill everyone on board! or you might commandeer it and drive it to <GASP!> Chapel Hill!!!!! :eek: /sarc off
 
If they can do that, then they can't justify taking away my right to defend myself in my car.
 
That combined with this....

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_14/GS_14-415.23.html

If the city owns the buses, they are...just spitballin here...considering the buses "appurtenant premises".
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/appurtenant

Perhaps some judicial review is in order.:rolleyes:

The phrase "local government buildings and their appurtenant premises" certainly seems to refer to real property ... which buses are not.
 
It's BS for sure .

The reason I linked the definition of the word was to illustrate a possible line of reasoning. Number 2.

If you want to understand a scumbag liberal, try to think like one. That's how I approach it.

Until someone challenges it, it will be so. Maybe it will stay so if someone does. Maybe I'm way off and there is a statute somewhere that specifically says if it has wheels....
 
The sign is there to protect people from gun violence. See, without that sign, you might get into an argument about a boom box, or somebody might try to take somebody's seat, and then people would start shooting each other. I'm sure you've seen in the news where it happens all the time. Another way the sign keeps us safe, is when Allah tells somebody to shoot up a bunch of infidels, the soldier of Allah will see the sign, and realize that you could get into a lot of trouble if you get caught with a gun on a bus.

(End sarcasm here)
I asked someone in the leadership of GRNC once about that, and he told me that posting a bus is permissible under state law. I'm sorry, but I don't recall which statute he cited, but he was of the opinion that municipalities had the legal authority to post.
 
I don't believe that they have the legal ability to restrict lawful firearm carry from municipally owned buses. Why not write them and ask them what ordinance permits this restriction? I would like to understand what permits their restrictions, especially for CCH permit holders. There is also a 2013 City of Durham memo online that acknowledges that they cannot do it.

If the bus is privately owned and operated, they can restrict firearms.

In 2013 the specific places that can be restricted by cities, counties and municipalities was spelled out in H947. It was again specified in 2015 in H562.

I believe that Chapel Hill's restrictions were also successfully challenged.
 
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The city contracts with First Transit for bus service. I assume the buses are owned and operated by them. They own everything that is "Go" branded (GoDurham, GoTriangle, etc.).
 
Wouldn't this fall under the same rule as your car being your castle?

Also I do have a beef with private businesses prohibiting the 2nd amendment right. If they have opened their business to commerce, seems to me they have invited the public in and should no longer be able to pick and choose which rights they want to allow.
 
First off, who rides the bus.

I have never seen a City bus with more then 2 people on it at one time.
One of the biggest wastes of tax money that there is.
Back before the passage of HB whatever that did away with the BS restriction on even keeping a gun in a vehicle parked on educational property, I would utilize a park and ride lot and take the bus in to work. In doing so, I realized there are certain demographics that utilize busses. I would say it is safe to say that they're mostly what we would call "leftists" even if they're not of the politically active variety.
 
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