Appleseed optic?

I'm planning to do an Appleseed soon. Just bought a 10/22 and my 59 year old eyes would do better with a low powered optic than irons I think. I threw the only scope I had laying round on it and just now sighted it in at 25 yards with CCI SV. That scope is not going to work, although I got pretty good accuracy I could see that the parallax error was huge, minor head movements cause very significant crosshair movement on the target. Must be set at 100yds.

So I prefer lightweight optics, and although an adjustable objective would be the ultimate solution, they are heavy, especially side focus. I only want a 2x to 3x fixed power, preferably with some kind of ranging or holdover reticle so that it is more versatile as a do-everything optic after the Appleseed. I'd love to find a rimfire scope with AO or fixed 25yd parallax in 2 or 3X power, less than 16oz (would prefer more like 12oz), and <= $300.

So far I'm looking at this PA 2.5x prism scope, it's not AO and doesn't list the parallax distance but in this vid at 1:55 it does pretty well in that department. It's at the top f my weight limit and I'd like to find something lighter if possible.



Am I searching for a unicorn?

Edit: Just realized a fixed 25yd parallax optic is probably going to suck for anything other than an Appleseed, lol. I'll settle for 50yd, or of course AO, but they always add a lot of weight.

I shot with a 3x ACOG (25yds and 400yd KD). No Parallax adjustment on it either. I got my Rifleman patch, Long Distance rocker, and cleared a red coat with it. You’ll be fine

11B CIB said:

I shot with a 3x ACOG (25yds and 400yd KD). No Parallax adjustment on it either. I got my Rifleman patch, Long Distance rocker, and cleared a red coat with it. You’ll be fine

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The current scope on it is horrible at 25yd. The ACOG is a prism design and so is the one in the video, it may be that there is something inherent about that that reduces parallax issues.

Not sure if it meets your criteria but I love my Leupold 3-9x33 EFR rimfire. It is light and compact, but still darn clear. If that is too large I'd just go with a fixed 4x and practice holdovers with the reticle. But my skills are limited so take that with a grain of salt. Enjoy rhe shoot.

CZfool68 said:

Not sure if it meets your criteria but I love my Leupold 3-9x33 EFR rimfire. It is light and compact, but still darn clear. If that is too large I'd just go with a fixed 4x and practice holdovers with the reticle. But my skills are limited so take that with a grain of salt. Enjoy rhe shoot.

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That is the same optic that was recommended to me for Appleseed. I just can't bring myself to buy it yet. I am still in denial that my eyes won't see good enough with just irons!

Exile_D said:

That is the same optic that was recommended to me for Appleseed. I just can't bring myself to buy it yet. I am still in denial that my eyes won't see good enough with just irons!

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My eyes have always been the best part of my body. But in the last year or so I have noticed a difference. Just suck it up and enjoy modern technology. You can remove the scope and use irons for fun whenever you'd like. I've got a couple lever actions with peep sights for non-serious work.

CZfool68 said:

My eyes have always been the best part of my body. But in the last year or so I have noticed a difference. Just suck it up and enjoy modern technology. You can remove the scope and use irons for fun whenever you'd like. I've got a couple lever actions with peep sights for non-serious work.

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Is yours on a 10/22 also?

Exile_D said:

Is yours on a 10/22 also?

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Nope, a CZ 512. Which is a little heavier than a 10/22. Being the CZ snob I am maybe you should grab a CZ for the Appleseed too.

I have a red dot on my 10/22 since it isn't a CZ.

CZfool68 said:

Nope, a CZ 512. Which is a little heavier than a 10/22. Being the CZ snob I am maybe you should grab a CZ for the Appleseed too.

I have a red dot on my 10/22 since it isn't a CZ.

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lol, I will get a CZ rifle some day. I like the 512. I was reading over at RFC about some of the older CZ bolt guns that are worth getting, if I get into target .22 seriously.
For now, I will have to be satisfied with my P-01.

@Flashpoint some folks speak highly of the Weaver scopes, for the money. However, they do say to stick with the Super Slam, Grand Slam and Classic V models. I do think they may tip the scales on your weight requirement though.
I have found it very frustrating that many optic manufacturers and resalers do not list the parallax distance nor do they always list the minimum adjustment distance on the adjustable scopes.
I do know, straight from Leupold, that the Leupold 3-9x33 EFR rimfire (110827) has an AO that will focus down to 10 meters and out to infinity.

I have heard good things about the PA one in the video you linked too.

Dunno about Appleseed applicability, but the Weaver 2.5-7x28 on my Marlin 60 is a damned nice scope.

CZfool68 said:

Not sure if it meets your criteria but I love my Leupold 3-9x33 EFR rimfire. It is light and compact, but still darn clear. If that is too large I'd just go with a fixed 4x and practice holdovers with the reticle. But my skills are limited so take that with a grain of salt. Enjoy rhe shoot.

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My son uses one of these to shoot CMP style matches
I can't say enough good about this scope imo best in class...

I would be interested in the Appleseed feedback. I brought a 10/22 with a red dot and they fussed at me about it. One of the instructors was kind enough to lend me his 10/22 with peepsights and all slung up, so it was fine, but I thought it odd.

tanstaafl72555 said:

I would be interested in the Appleseed feedback. I brought a 10/22 with a red dot and they fussed at me about it. One of the instructors was kind enough to lend me his 10/22 with peepsights and all slung up, so it was fine, but I thought it odd.

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How long ago was that? I am under the impression that it wouldn't be a problem now. @Yankee Doodle could shed more light on that, of course.
He has mentioned they have more of a run-what-you-brung attitude now. I guess it could also depend on the location and/or instructors for your particular event.

I am pretty sure I will need some sort of optic if we shoot 50+ yards. My eyes ain't what they used to be!

Exile_D said:

How long ago was that? I am under the impression that it wouldn't be a problem now. @Yankee Doodle could shed more light on that, of course.
He has mentioned they have more of a run-what-you-brung attitude now. I guess it could also depend on the location and/or instructors for your particular event.

I am pretty sure I will need some sort of optic if we shoot 50+ yards. My eyes ain't what they used to be!

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It wasn't a "problem" then, really. The instructors were amazingly kind and very very helpful. I don't have a single bad thing to say about them. They just told me that it would be "better" if I removed my scope and used iron sights. I was astoundingly inept and so they let me use one of theirs. I almost qualified using someone else's rig on my first try, so I was pretty proud.

It was, GOING AWAY, the most effective training I have ever had.

tanstaafl72555 said:

It was, GOING AWAY, the most effective training I have ever had.

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Worth going back many times, to tune up and improve some more. And just for a nice peaceful weekend with several dozen rifles going off around you all day Closest to Zen I've ever been

Glad you did so well with irons - feels like more of an accomplishment that way, doesn't it? You can make rifleman the next time with a little work in the mean time. Then move on to AR-15, bolt 22, Garand, 1903, ... - the fun never ends!

When I shoot my first Appleseed as a shooter in 2012, the lines were mostly Irons and the majority of the instruction centered around Iron sights.

Glass and optics are certainly showing up more - sometimes as the majority sighting systems - and everything we teach at Appleseed is equally applicable regardless of what you bring.

The Six Steps, the Steady Hold Factors, NPOA, sling use - consistency in these areas will improve your marksmanship regardless of what rifle you shoot.

tanstaafl72555 said:

I would be interested in the Appleseed feedback. I brought a 10/22 with a red dot and they fussed at me about it. One of the instructors was kind enough to lend me his 10/22 with peepsights and all slung up, so it was fine, but I thought it odd.

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How long ago was this particular shoot? As optics, including red dots become more and more prevalent, one thing that becomes important is to know your particular equipment well enough to know how to adjust sights. We encourage our Instructors to have a wide-ranging knowledge in this area to help shooters - but with as many as there are these days, it's a lot to keep up with (which may be where the suggestion to use the Tech Sighted loaner rifle came from).

I'm glad to hear you had a great time - we'd love to have you back on the line!