Smith & Wesson Reintroducing Model 19

so does MIM

I have to say...I don't think so. The greater weight of the evidence, and I've been looking for it, suggests that MIM is just as functional and durable as forged parts. On top of that, you have greater parts interchangeability and lower production cost. It's also been my observation that MIM triggers tend to be quite good on average as compared to the average forged trigger. I am as big of a die hard classic Smith fan as you are going to find anywhere...but I cannot find fault with the MIM.

The lock, on the other hand, is butt ugly and a poor idea. But, I can live with it or remove it. Smith is making solid guns today.
 
There's probably nobody here who likes the old school Smiths more than me...well, at least not too many people. That said, I am amused that so many people just cannot help but comment on the goddarn lock every time somebody posts a thread about a current production Smith. Every time.
Ryan, I would have to disagree with that statement. My wife says I love my S&W revolvers more than her. Well what can I say. I still have the first one I ever legally bought when I turned 21. That was in 1970. It's a 4 inch blued mod 19 and I will never part with it.I had over 60 at one time but have had to sell some of them to pay bills..As far as the lock goes ,it sucks. But like someone else said ,it doesn't hurt the function it's just fugly.One of my favorites is a 3 inch nickel 586and it has the lock...The new Guns are astheticly not as pretty as the "old" Smith's but the do work.If any of you have any with locks that you don't like I will happily take them off your hands for you at no charge.
 
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Too each his own. I'd be a lot more likely to buy a vintage P&R model 19 for that money than a new one. $800 to $900 would buy a very nice 19-4 or other vintage Smith. The only plus to the new one would be my assumption that they fixed the forcing cone issue that made the original prone to cracks in that area. The lock is a not a big factor to me. It's easily removed and replaced with a plug if it bothers you. Or a drop of Super Glue will keep it from accidentally locking.
I have a model 19 -3 that has been fired at least 20,000 rounds. It has been back to S&W twice for repairs. Cylinder stop and the hand we're replaced..I will say most of the rounds i shot were cast lead so there was not aalot of barrel wear.Actually to tight up the action . There has never been any cracks in or near the forcing cone or frame.atleast 5000 of those rounds we're 158 grain 357 mag .
 
Interesting. I think I am good but it is good that they are bring them back.

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yeah. My Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson 4th edition says they'll never be worth what the old ones are, so regardless of Hill-holes, Mim, cheap boxes, etc, I like buying a known quantity for the same money.

Now granted, for $400 it's hard to beat the airweights, since they're +p rated, and some of them come without the lock (which makes it even more of a WTF moment on higher priced models) esp if you ever have to use one and give it up for fondling by your local law enforcement.

I own 2 MIM'd J-frames, one with lock and one without. I could care less about either one of them except as an appliance. Niether one evoke the same feeling when shooting as my vintage model 64 (even though they both have better DA triggers, probably from dry firing)
 
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I own 2 post 82 S&Ws. Both were gifts. I will always have them. The thing about the reintro guns that I don't understand is...….why not just get the real thing? Again, the yardstick that is used to measure. The money is too close to be an issue. Just curious?
I can't help but think in some cases these guns are being bought by folks that have never handled an original pre 82 gun. IF they had and IF the money was as close as it seems to be, I am confused. This is not even an apple and orange comparison. Surely some of you old S&W folks can remember the feeling. The new guns don't have it....the feel.
 
What I'm about to write is done without any subjectivity (because for some things, I am this way)...

Some people prefer new.
 
What I'm about to write is done without any subjectivity (because for some things, I am this way)...

Some people prefer new.

I agree with this. Some people just like factory fresh. It is kind of like new cars. I have bought 1 new car in my life. It was a Ford F150 and that was because in the area of KY I was in it was just as cheap to buy a new F150 with cash incentives, warranty and better financing than a 3 year old one. All the other cars I have ever bought were used. I know other people that always buy new. They like the new car smell I guess. I view guns the same way. I don't mind used if not abused.
 
I have a model 19 -3 that has been fired at least 20,000 rounds. It has been back to S&W twice for repairs. Cylinder stop and the hand we're replaced..I will say most of the rounds i shot were cast lead so there was not aalot of barrel wear.Actually to tight up the action . There has never been any cracks in or near the forcing cone or frame.atleast 5000 of those rounds we're 158 grain 357 mag .
I've got a 19-4 that I bought new in 1980 with a similar round count and still going. But like yours the rounds were mostly lead. I believe the cracked forcing cones were mostly caused by a steady diet of light jacketed bullets travelling at high velocity. Those 125 gr JHP 357 Mag loads were all the rage at one time. Not sure why. I've always preferred a heavier bullet. At any rate the two piece barrel design on the new ones should prove to be accurate and durable irregardless of bullet weight. I'll still stick with the vintage P&R revolvers. Unless I get a screaming good deal...
 
I've got a 19-4 that I bought new in 1980 with a similar round count and still going. But like yours the rounds were mostly lead. I believe the cracked forcing cones were mostly caused by a steady diet of light jacketed bullets travelling at high velocity. Those 125 gr JHP 357 Mag loads were all the rage at one time. Not sure why. I've always preferred a heavier bullet. At any rate the two piece barrel design on the new ones should prove to be accurate and durable irregardless of bullet weight. I'll still stick with the vintage P&R revolvers. Unless I get a screaming good deal...
The 125 grain jhp 357 Magnum was and still is the highest ranked One shot stopper ammo on the market
 
I would rate 200gr hardcast 44 special up there with that load, with less recoil ;)

or silvertips, or gold dots. They don't really need to expand :D
 
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The "classic model 19" didn't work out too well for Hickok45. ;) Regards 18DAI
 
The "classic model 19" didn't work out too well for Hickok45. ;) Regards 18DAI
Come on...it was just a little blood. o_O
 
What I'm about to write is done without any subjectivity (because for some things, I am this way)...

Some people prefer new.

And some people would prefer a swift kick in the nuts over a blow jibber. Don’t mean they’re right.


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And again I don't know anyone that would prefer a swift kick in the nuts over a BJ unless it would be Jeppo
I always thought it was a package deal. Did I get that wrong? :confused:
 
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