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Just cross over into Nevada and buy it.

F’ em....problem solved.
 
wsfiredude said:
Just cross over into Nevada and buy it.

F’ em....problem solved.
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Mark my words...next step will be roadblocks and mandatory vehicle searches on the highways leading from NV back to CA. ;)
 
I wonder how many people will be prosecuted for attempting to illegally purchase ammo.

I also wonder if they will make each LEO purchase their own ammo or if one admin person can buy it and then distribute it to department members without individually checking them.

LOL.
 
wsfiredude said:
Just cross over into Nevada and buy it.

F’ em....problem solved.
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I'm guessing that ammo prices along the CA/NV border will be highly inflated.
 
The article talks about “illegal guns” and “illegal ammunition,” hope I don’t have any of that stuff.

I still don’t understand why internet sellers care about these state laws. If I ship a case of ammo to someone in CA or NY, I haven’t broken any NC or Fed law, and I’m not subject to CA or NY law, so screw ‘em.
 
I sure cops are not held to the same standards, so there's another market for LEO to make money on the side. They already but off the roster guns and resell... Now it's gonna be ammo.

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JimB said:
The article talks about “illegal guns” and “illegal ammunition,” hope I don’t have any of that stuff.

I still don’t understand why internet sellers care about these state laws. If I ship a case of ammo to someone in CA or NY, I haven’t broken any NC or Fed law, and I’m not subject to CA or NY law, so screw ‘em.
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The government is trying to change this. There is a case going through the Texas courts about something similar. I person with a Colorado DL purchased an AR-15 and 30 round AR-15 mags in Texas. The government is trying to say the FFL was required to follow CO gun restrictions, along with TX.
 
FUDD arguments surely will make them think twice. “These regulations essentially prevent me from being able to stay qualified and not only hurt my skill, but jeopardize the United States’ representation at the Olympic Games,” she said.
 
Ferrisfan said:
I wonder how many people will be prosecuted for attempting to illegally purchase ammo.

I also wonder if they will make each LEO purchase their own ammo or if one admin person can buy it and then distribute it to department members without individually checking them.

LOL.
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Rules for thee...
 
1000 rounds? Wonder what kind of super military death dealing vortex of destruction that case of 5000 22LR would have been in their world...
 
AR10ShooterinNC said:
The government is trying to change this. There is a case going through the Texas courts about something similar. I person with a Colorado DL purchased an AR-15 and 30 round AR-15 mags in Texas. The government is trying to say the FFL was required to follow CO gun restrictions, along with TX.
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So the state of CO is suing an FFL in TX, that’s amusing. I do forget the federal law for long guns, can you buy in an adjoining state under federal law?
 
AR10ShooterinNC said:
The government is trying to change this. There is a case going through the Texas courts about something similar. I person with a Colorado DL purchased an AR-15 and 30 round AR-15 mags in Texas. The government is trying to say the FFL was required to follow CO gun restrictions, along with TX.
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Is this the case of church being shot up in Texas?
IIRC, the government should be prosecuting itself because that guy slipped through cracks in the NICS check. Military didn't place him on the forbidden list because of his domestic violence conviction?

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JimB said:
So the state of CO is suing an FFL in TX, that’s amusing. I do forget the federal law for long guns, can you buy in an adjoining state under federal law?
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You can buy a long gun in any state, as long as it’s legal in that one and yours.

I believe the border state wording used to exist but it’s gone.

You can only buy a non-long-guns in your own state, unless you’re having it shipped to an FFL in your state. That’s not just handguns, but also includes “other firearms”...like AR receivers, whether complete or stripped.
 
wsfiredude said:
Just cross over into Nevada and buy it.

F’ em....problem solved.
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Under Prop 63 it is illegal for Commiefornia residents to bring in ammo from out of the state unless it goes thru a state licensed dealer ... it’s a misdemeanor. I am guessing that will not stop every resident from bring in a box or two of ammo occasionally so how will the Commie stormtroopers know? Are they going to have some sort of “state stamp” on boxes like many states use to have on cigarettes or liquor?
 
As far as crossing the state line and bringing it back in that has been a NO NO since Jan 1, 2018 but the ID and record keeping starts 1st of next month. Here’s the bootlegging statute ...

PENAL CODE - PEN
PART 6. CONTROL OF DEADLY WEAPONS [16000 - 34370]
( Part 6 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )
TITLE 4. FIREARMS [23500 - 34370]
( Title 4 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )
DIVISION 10. SPECIAL RULES RELATING TO PARTICULAR TYPES OF FIREARMS OR FIREARM EQUIPMENT [30210 - 33690]
( Division 10 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )
CHAPTER 1. Ammunition [30210 - 30395]
( Chapter 1 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )

ARTICLE 2. Other Restrictions Relating to Ammunition [30300 - 30340]
( Article 2 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )

30314.
(a) Commencing January 1, 2018, a resident of this state shall not bring or transport into this state any ammunition that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained from outside of this state unless he or she first has that ammunition delivered to a licensed ammunition vendor for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 30312.

(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:

(1) An ammunition vendor.

(2) A sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, or sworn federal law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer’s duties.

(3) An importer or manufacturer of ammunition or firearms who is licensed to engage in business pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.

(4) A person who is on the centralized list of exempted federal firearms licensees maintained by the Department of Justice pursuant to Article 6 (commencing with Section 28450) of Chapter 6 of Division 6.

(5) A person who is licensed as a collector of firearms pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, whose licensed premises are within this state, and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 26710.

(6) A person who acquired the ammunition from a spouse, registered domestic partner, or immediate family member as defined in Section 16720.

(c) A violation of this section is an infraction for any first time offense, and either an infraction or a misdemeanor for any subsequent offense.

(Added November 8, 2016, by initiative Proposition 63, Sec. 8.7.)
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There have been a couple cases since 1/1/18, I can’t reference them so take it as hearsay, where CA agents actually trolled a Vegas gun show and followed people around who arrived in vehicles with CA plates watching what they purchased. A couple purchased bulk ammo and where tagged for “pickup” when they crossed the CA/NV border back into CA on “traffic stops” and subsequently were charged with violations of the above ... cited and fine with the ammo being “confiscated” ... and sent on back empty handed and lighter in the wallet.
 
1000 rounds of ammo in the home is crazy, uncalled for and out right unconstitutional.

I’ve never even see that much ammo ...
 
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LOL....I’m calling BS on this.

1) Package was delivered that morning
2) It was a suspicious package that appeared to contain some type of improvised device.
3) The box appears to be intact

The WKRN news anchor posted that picture to social media at 10:08 am. Now...just how in the hell from the time that package was delivered did:

- It get discovered
- Police were notified and responded
- Area is evacuated
- EOD responds, sends in personnel / robot, retrieves the package, takes it to a secure location and attempts to detonate it (box/device appears to be intact)
- Forensic techs do their thing

And this anchor gets a picture to post by just a little after 10am?

Yeah...ain’t f*ing buying it. I have been on more than one suspicious package call and things DO NOT happen that fast.
 
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And this is the HQ of a major political party???? They would’ve brought in more than just the dog.

Guarantee they’d of had the EOD unit from THP to respond.
 
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It looks like someone peed in that box, or maybe there was a squirt gun in the box that decided to keep firing itself.
 
wsfiredude said:
And this is the HQ of a major political party???? They would’ve brought in more than just the dog.

Guarantee they’d of had the EOD unit from THP to respond.
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If doing this were to become popular, do you have any idea how much govt. resource The People could waste? Not to mention the duty fatigue that would set in from responding to all the threats. I think we’re on the brink of living in interesting times. As govt tries to clamp it’s fist, the sand will flow from its fingers.
 
Tailhunter said:
1000 rounds of ammo in the home is crazy, uncalled for and out right unconstitutional.

I’ve never even see that much ammo ...
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I work with many people that think 1K of ammo should be a lifetime supply. Most people have no idea how much some of us shoot every month in practice and shooting games.
 
BatteryOaksBilly said:
Had a visit in the last few days from SheCarGo. Can't buy ANY ammo without the State Card. Did he say FOI or FOY or some such???
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FOID...firearms owner ID. Yeah. Absurd.
AR10ShooterinNC said:
I work with many people that think 1K of ammo should be a lifetime supply. Most people have no idea how much some of us shoot every month in practice and shooting games.
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I can blow through 250 rounds in two hours at my range, and that's taking it easy. Stuff like Glocks and Walthers suck it up like a sponge.
 
AR10ShooterinNC said:
Most people have no idea
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That sums up everything pretty much. People have no idea, but their ignorant opinion is somehow even more valid than someone who does know, because the ignorant have feelings and that's the most important thing.
 
Jeppo said:
Mark my words...next step will be roadblocks and mandatory vehicle searches on the highways leading from NV back to CA. ;)
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The CA DOJ stakes out NV gunshows, takes photos of people buying magazines with a capacity of greater than 10 rounds, follows them across into CA and busts them for illegally importing a 'high capacity' magazine. They also take pictures of CA license plates at the gun shows and stop them on the other side of the border. You can bet they'll do this at gun shows and shops in NV and AZ for ammo sales too.
 
This is why, in theory, when you buy your "illegal" 4th of July celebratory "toys" in another state, just across state lines, you need to drive further into the state for about 30 miles before you come home.
 
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“Unsurprisingly, mass shooters have assembled arsenals by ordering ammunition online, and each year California law enforcement officers have uncovered hundreds of thousands of rounds of illegal ammunition while investigating the illegal possession of firearms,” she added.

Similar background checks implemented in Sacramento for more than a decade have allowed police detectives to track down and seize illegal guns from those trying to buy ammunition, according to Amanda Wilcox, the policy chair for Brady California, a gun control group that supports the new state law.

“That’s a big investigative tool,” said Wilcox, who suffered the death of a daughter to gun violence. “It’s really a way to get a handle on the problem of illegal guns.”
 
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