Legal question daughters first apartment under 21

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My daughter is a Junior at one of the UNC schools. She has an off campus apartment and wants to bring one of my pistols she is trained on with her to keep in her apartment.

I own the pistol in question and she is 20. She does not intend to carry it concealed, just keep it in her apartment. I am a cosignor on the lease.

Should she get a pistol purchase permit or is she allowed to have possession of a pistol in her own home that was given to her?
 
At 18 years old she can get a handgun purchase permit to buy from an individual. She cannot use it to buy from a dealer. There is nothing illegal as well for someone to borrow a gun.

If she is attending NC Central and living in Durham she will get to use it.
 
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My daughter is a Junior at one of the UNC schools. She has an off campus apartment and wants to bring one of my pistols she is trained on with her to keep in her apartment.

I own the pistol in question and she is 20. She does not intend to carry it concealed, just keep it in her apartment. I am a cosignor on the lease.

Should she get a pistol purchase permit or is she allowed to have possession of a pistol in her own home that was given to her?

If it were me I would transfer ownership to her. Even though you are on the lease it would be cleaner IMHO for her to be the owner of the pistol.
 
Lets see, if it was my daughter.

Here honey, put this hand cannon in your night stand. Dont tell your mother , you know how she feels about these things. Love ya, see at Christmas break....
 
I'd have her apply for the pistol purchase permit.
Then there is no question she is legal to own one.
Also apply for that in the county she resides in ( what's on her drivers license )
Then give her the pew pew.

...... Not necessarily in that order, asking for a friend, because the best deals are always so far away....
 
My daughter and I did the same when she was 18. She decided to go get 5 pistol purchase permits, just in case an LEO didn't know the law. At 18, she was legally the owner of the guns I gave her, and she has kept them in her apartment fora couple of years. She transports them to the range and back. This year, she will get her CCP.
 
Nader, make sure you have enough liability coverage if something happens involving the gun. They are going to sue anybody who they can.
 
Similar situation here. But NY daughter US 22, so she can get her cc if she wants top and I'll pay for it.
If not, a PP, so she can have her favorite, the FNX45, for home defense at thew apartment in Charlotte near UNCC.

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Consider alarm system Simply Safe for example or a NEST camera for inside the apartment.
 
I agree with the above. Legally, you can loan her a pistol. It would be legally cleaner for her to get a PPP. Room mates are a wild card. If they’re a possibility, get something to secure it in, even if it is a simple lock box where they would have to forcibly obtain it.
 
Orange County "or what ever county she is in" Sheriff's Office email reply printed is a standard most forget about.

You can build a record for safe keeping from the responding law enforcement official.

Fyi
 
The lease is very likely to disallow it in a college town. Check on that, so at least you know, even if you are going to ignore it.
And roommates and other visitors would be a huge concern. Even if it is locked away, unless it is also well hidden it will probably be obvious _what_ is locked away and word could get around.
 
I would gift the firearm to your daughter. Suggest a safe to keep it in when she isn't there. Forgot what state it was up north last year where girls roommate went thru her legal stuff and they complained to the landlord about their safety. Girl got kicked out of the apartment.

CD
 
Off topic. I saw many, many leases of my 4 children while they attended college and grad school. Two have leases now post college as well. Every lease in Boone was a no guns allowed and the same in Durham and Cary. I have not seen the leases after graduation.

My son cannot have a gun in his possession or home at the military base. Pretty stupid if I may say. Any apartment I would lease that had a no gun policy would get ignored. I would not let anyone know I had it but I would definitely ignore it. Roommates- absolutely put it in a lockable desk top safe. Apartment no gun policies are written to limit liabilities.
 
important questions: What state do you live in? and which state issued her a DL?
 
At 18 years old she can get a handgun purchase permit to buy from an individual. She cannot use it to buy from a dealer. There is nothing illegal as well for someone to borrow a gun.

If she is attending NC Central and living in Durham she will get to use it.

"She'll get to use it"? Uh, no. Data and statistics say otherwise.
 
Well then to your OP: My understanding of NC LAW is that she must have a permit to receive a handgun. There are no if-then-maybe-but caveats for loans, holding other people's property, temporary this or that. And guns don't have titles, so when you say "here take this with you to school" she received a handgun.

https://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/ByArticle/Chapter_14/Article_52A.html

Short version:
It is unlawful for any person... in this State to ... receive ... any pistol unless: (i) a license or permit is first obtained
 
I would gift the firearm to your daughter. Suggest a safe to keep it in when she isn't there. Forgot what state it was up north last year where girls roommate went thru her legal stuff and they complained to the landlord about their safety. Girl got kicked out of the apartment.

CD

Kicked out of school as well because it was college housing if I remember correctly.
 
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Kicked out of school as well because it was college housing if I remember correctly.

That is sad if true. I kept a rifle in my dorm closet at UNC. Nothing was ever said to me when I'd sling it across my back and drive off on my motorcycle to go shooting.
 
Well then to your OP: My understanding of NC LAW is that she must have a permit to receive a handgun. There are no if-then-maybe-but caveats for loans, holding other people's property, temporary this or that. And guns don't have titles, so when you say "here take this with you to school" she received a handgun.

https://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/ByArticle/Chapter_14/Article_52A.html

Short version:
The info above applies to the purchase of a firearm. Article 52A. Sale of Weapons in Certain Counties.
The firearm in question has already been purchased lawfully.
 
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The info above applies to the purchase of a firearm. Article 52A. Sale of Weapons in Certain Counties.
The firearm in question has already been purchased lawfully.
I do not agree with your interpretation and I think it says very clearly something else entirely.
 
That's why my daughter went and got 5 PPPs before she left for college. Whichever interpretation she is presented with, she has what she needs to be legal.
 
That's why my daughter went and got 5 PPPs before she left for college. Whichever interpretation she is presented with, she has what she needs to be legal.

I agree 100% cover all the bases so on the very small chance something happens you are on the right side of the law no matter what "their" interpretation is.
 
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I do not agree with your interpretation and I think it says very clearly something else entirely.

It is unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation in this State to sell, give away, or transfer, or to purchase or receive, at any place within this State from any other place within or without the State any pistol unless: (i) a license or permit is first obtained under this Article by the purchaser or receiver from the sheriff of the county in which the purchaser or receiver resides; or (ii) a valid North Carolina concealed handgun permit is held under Article 54B of this Chapter by the purchaser or receiver who must be a resident of the State at the time of the purchase.

I am not a lawyer the the term receive seems to cover lending or loaning a handgun to another person.
 
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If I let you shoot my 9mm at the range am I breaking the law because you do not have a pistol purchase permit?
 
Is that what we're talking about?

No. Neither is handling or even renting a gun in the LGS. Ask them to let you take it home as a loaner tho...
 
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If I let you shoot my 9mm at the range am I breaking the law because you do not have a pistol purchase permit?

In that situation you are not taking possession of the gun outside of my supervision. I am not saying agree with the law but if you are in sole possession of the gun I think the statute applies. YMMV Either way why put your daughter in a compromised position when she can simply go get a permit and be 100% legal.
 
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