Troubles within NCHP

You always have bad apples in every business.

They need to get more Out Of State drivers using I40 and I77 as a racetrack, they would never have to worry about a low ticket count. The NCHP used to be known nationwide for getting these folks.
 
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Yeah they can call it what they want, but when they show up in the same place last week of the month, every month, in numbers, pulling people left and right and you never see them any other time. I call that quota
 
With all the drivers who need to be pulled over for valid reasons, no excuse to frame citizens.
Regular cops won’t pull over a lot of those around here because they’re afraid of getting accused of racism, or just afraid period. I had a woman cut me off yesterday almost causing a several car wreck in front of a cop and he just watched her drive away.
 
I live near a grade school, school zone clearly posted, nobody drives 35, burn right past me.
Woman with her phone slapped to her ear drives around me (two lane divided) and city cop in
his suv behind me. I look in the rear mirror and he sees me, finally decides to pull her over.
 
Yeah they can call it what they want, but when they show up in the same place last week of the month, every month, in numbers, pulling people left and right and you never see them any other time. I call that quota

A decade ago I had to commute through Morrisville NC and that last week of the month there was so much radar it was like driving through a microwave oven. Morrisville PD had this little stop sign scam that caught me right at the end of the month. I swear I stopped, but he wrote me up anyway. Nowadays you can get those dash cams, but back then what could you do? There's really no defense. This was my only ticket in nearly forty years, and the only negative/unprofessional encounter I've ever had with an officer.
 
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HCPD has a 45 minute time on scene arrival for 911 calls. At least Here they do.
Not sure it’ll take them that long here but if it comes down to it and I live, I’ll call 911 when it’s over
 
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As the old expression goes, “don’t pee on my head and tell me it’s raining.” or in the case of the HP that it’s about safety. Earlier this week, sitting on an on ramp on I40 behind some trees. Wouldn’t have seen them, except Waze alerted me to their presence so I looked for them, not that I was going fast enough to be an issue anyway. If it was about safety and not ransom for the Crown they would have been out in the open where they would have slowed traffic down and still caught a window licking idiot.

Issues like this, in the OP, delegitimize the entire entity.
 
I haven't seen our resident LEO comment on this yet. Wonder what excuses can be made to justify it? It's for the chilwren?
 
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Productive incentives. Don’t you want your highway patrol unit to be productive? Kind of reminds me of those guys in my field who pay service techs for work work/sales outside of the repair. They start condemning costly items like compressors to drive the invoice price up.
 
I haven't seen our resident LEO comment on this yet. Wonder what excuses can be made to justify it? It's for the chilwren?
They’re busy over in the thread about the drunk NFL player who wouldn’t comply with “commands” talking about how cops should be hitting people on the head with rolls of wrapped up quarters.
 
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Regular cops won’t pull over a lot of those around here because they’re afraid of getting accused of racism, or just afraid period. I had a woman cut me off yesterday almost causing a several car wreck in front of a cop and he just watched her drive away.

Girlfriend and I were partying hard with some friends near Charlotte. Both of us drunker than heck and almost two hours from home.

She pulls out onto 74 in Matthews and we hear tires squealing. Suddenly, a cop car passes us on the left and just speeds away. She had literally pulled out in front of this cop, and so close he had to slam on the brakes and swerve left.

I could not believe it.
 
Girlfriend and I were partying hard with some friends near Charlotte. Both of us drunker than heck and almost two hours from home.

She pulls out onto 74 in Matthews and we hear tires squealing. Suddenly, a cop car passes us on the left and just speeds away. She had literally pulled out in front of this cop, and so close he had to slam on the brakes and swerve left.

I could not believe it.

He probably got a call the "hot fresh" sign just came on at Krispy Kreme or was trying to get to an incident before his colleagues shot all the dogs.
 
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If the proposed cell phone bill passes, the police will have more things to do, makes up for the DMV discontinuing the
windshield inspection stickers.
 
He probably got a call the "hot fresh" sign just came on at Krispy Kreme or was trying to get to an incident before his colleagues shot all the dogs.
I'm not going to "Like" this because that was mean and most of those guys deserve better. But that was really funny.
 
He probably got a call the "hot fresh" sign just came on at Krispy Kreme
That’s when they pull up to the red light, trigger the lights and siren, go through the intersection and turn them off. Never seen that happen. Nope, never.
 
That’s when they pull up to the red light, trigger the lights and siren, go through the intersection and turn them off. Never seen that happen. Nope, never.
Several years ago I saw an unmarked car do the lights to get through 3 red lights and then turn them off. Half mile up the road I saw him plow into a city dump truck pulling a trailer with a bobcat. He smashed his head into the light bar under the visor and was bleeding like a stuck hog. Karma is a bitch! I laughed like hell.
 
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That’s when they pull up to the red light, trigger the lights and siren, go through the intersection and turn them off. Never seen that happen. Nope, never.

Nope, never ever....
 
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Actually been told it is a "performance objective".

Your are exactly right I have heard it said they troopers that “it makes one trooper look bad if the other trooper writes 75 tickets a week and they only do 35.”
 
Several years ago I saw an unmarked car do the lights to get through 3 red lights and then turn them off. Half mile up the road I saw him plow into a city dump truck pulling a trailer with a bobcat. He smashed his head into the light bar under the visor and was bleeding like a stuck hog. Karma is a bitch! I laughed like hell.

How much did the dump truck driver get fined?
 
Yeah they can call it what they want, but when they show up in the same place last week of the month, every month, in numbers, pulling people left and right and you never see them any other time. I call that quota
This is what they do here. It's so obvious that it's embarrassing.
I-26 between Hendersonville and Asheville is a total disaster. Constant wrecks, race track mentality from a few that corrupt everyone else into doing the same, anger, hate, me first, semi's in the packed left lane running people over, everyone is 3 feet away at 70mph(until traffic comes to a complete stop again 1 mile later), completely bumper-to-bumper with angry people in 4000 pound weapons. The locals avoid it at all costs.
All it would take is one..one..trooper sitting in the middle to cool everyone's jets.
None to be found.

However, go south of Hendersonville where it's kind of hilly and the trucks roller-coaster through there to maintain momentum, you'll see 4 troopers there banging everyone for doing 75 downhill. Except for the troopers and their games, traffic flows through this area without incident.
Go west of Asheville on I40, a popular tourist route, and there's 2 troopers everyday aggressively on the radar. Except for the troopers and their games, traffic flows through this area without incident, with the occasional exception of a rubber-necker brake checking to look at the trooper and causing an accident.
In our area, the NCHP has forgone preventative maintenance in favor of revenue enhancement.
Disturbing, and hard to support.
 
Color me shocked and amazed...Not! A long time ago in an NC county not that far away I was at lunch with a customer when a big ole hiway patrolman walked up to us and exchanged pleasantries with my customer. When the patrolman walked away, my customer chuckled and said " that SOB is the biggest crook in this county."
 
Why do people think that just because someone is a LEO that they are going to be perfect and never do anything wrong? They are people just like everyone else. Some are good and some are bad.
 
That’s when they pull up to the red light, trigger the lights and siren, go through the intersection and turn them off. Never seen that happen. Nope, never.

Shoot, when I was a paramedic I had a partner who would run emergency traffic from the hospital back to the base if it was close to getting off time....
 
Why do people think that just because someone is a LEO that they are going to be perfect and never do anything wrong? They are people just like everyone else. Some are good and some are bad.
Ok, so how much corruption is acceptable? What sort of dollar value do we need to put on it before its a problem? How many innocent victims need to get raped by the state over made up crap? Some corrupt agent makes false claims, for whatever reason, and now the innocent gets the guilty until he proves himself innocent or bends over and pays the graft because it's easier or less costly. Even if they prove themselves innocent it's a loss; it's a loss of time and or money they'll never get back.

This is a problem and it is caused by a combination of policing for revenue and having armed agents of the State going around enforcing "law". As I've said in other threads, go back to colonial law - as in when the US Constitution was written. The fourth amendment:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Does not say unless a hired agent of the State decides that in his belief that a crime has been committed. There was also no such things as a victimless crime against the state either and there shouldn't be now.
 
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Aug. '97, fixin' to deploy to Bosnia & I'm on my motorcycle headin' south on 95, on my way back to the 'Ville from visiting family in Philadelphia. It's late at night, it's raining & some asshole keeps tail gating me. 70 mph limit, I'm running about 60 - 65 ('cos it's dark & raining), so I'd goose the throttle to pass the car in front of me & get back into the right lane & dude won't get off my ass. Repeated this bullshit 3 or 4 times & it turns out to be one of NCHP's finest & the asshole pulls me over & writes me for speeding after the MFer did his level best to kiss my back tire with his bumper. WTF?

I've had other encounter with Troopers who were very cool & professional, but that Wilson Co. POS was a crook.
 
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