Active shooter in walmart.

bigfelipe said:
Walmart in Texas... Not a gun-free zone...
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I was somewhat surprised at this also. I would have thought that there would be enough armed citizens that someone would have cancelled his ticket before the cops arrived. Surprisingly, everything I've seen on the tube seems to indicate that everyone was running.
 
5 things come of this.

1, my cheap $300 SKS's are more valuable
2, AK's get even more expensive
3, wal-mart will no longer sell rifles or cheap ammo
4, Trump finds something to "ban" to appease
5, even though I'm 1000 miles away and the firearms I own that are locked up It is somehow my fault because of Muh 2A.
 
Now the unofficial numbers are 11 dead and 23 taken to hospital ...

Yep, 99% sure it looks like a version of the AK platform ...

As to manifesto under gear he says he would wear gloves but doesn’t mention the ear pro the surveillance video shows. Wonder if he forgot the gloves and didn’t think to enter the ear muffs when the manifesto was being written ... or is this a fake manifesto? Tin foil hat time?

The news is saying a couple thousand people where in the store ... how many had CHP’s and were armed? This is Texas so I’m guessing there were quite a few based of CHP reported percentages but no one acted? I do not blame someone for not acting to engage the shooter especially since it would be a carry handgun versus a semi-auto long gun but I sure wonder what those who did carry did. Personally, I’d be getting my family to safety and be ready to act if need be but I damn sure would not have been a hero against a long gun especially considering a compact 9mm and at most 9+1 with 1 spare mag.

Buckle up guys ... AK’s and AR’s along with a long list of other evil firearms will be under a cry to ban like never before.
 
How are much is this going to get the politicians to start pushing for a major weapons and magazine ban? Timing just seems to be to "right", what happened to the great FBI in stopping the terrorists.

Might be time to spend some money on magazines.
 
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NCFubar said:
As to manifesto under gear he says he would wear gloves but doesn’t mention the ear pro the surveillance video shows. Wonder if he forgot the gloves and didn’t think to enter the ear muffs when the manifesto was being written ... or is this a fake manifesto? Tin foil hat time?
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Loosen the hat, he even says it's a 'meh manifesto,' so he probably just didnt put it down or it was a last minute add-on.
Dont start thinking fake manifestos and conspiracies
 
A year or two of AK shootings what will they switch to next? What's the third most evil gun on the list?
 
zuerjoha said:
I'm in an interracial marriage and loonies like this are why I carry (referencing the race mixing part of the manifesto). Got some 127 +P+ if the situation arises.
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Good job. I wish you the best. Glad you are carrying. I wish more people would legally carry.
 
Here’s a question.

Would the Europeans have had many similar attacks if they weren’t disarmed before their ‘Leaders’ imported hordes of Africans and Asians?

Part of his crazy rant was accurate. Both parties have allowed an invasion from the South and not protected our Nation. There is a murder or rape just about everyday in the news by an illegal alien. That’s on Congress for the last 50 years. Both parties. This kind of crap is what happens when governments don’t follow the will of their people.
 
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Except he just starting shooting randomly. If he wasn't full of !@#$ he would have actually gone to the border or a DMV or something. He just sprayed a Walmart so all of his so-called principles were bull.

...or the entire manifesto is bull; just some random Internet junk.
 
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Supposedly identified as ...
Law enforcement sources have identified 21-year-old Patrick Crusius as the suspect in Saturday's deadly shooting near a Walmart and a shopping mall in El Paso, according to ABC News.
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https://abc7.com/patrick-crusius-what-we-know-about-el-paso-suspected-shooter/5440695/

If true other outlets one is Heavy (which is not that great but ...) is reporting he’s from Allen TX ... kinda a suburb of Dallas 650 east of El Paso with no known direct connection to the area.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/patrick-crusius/
 
GeorgeBush said:
Except he just starting shooting randomly. If he wasn't full of !@#$ he would have actually gone to the border or a DMV or something. He just sprayed a Walmart so all of his so-called principles were bull.

...or the entire manifesto is bull; just some random Internet junk.
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Yep, true ...

It is also reported to have popped up real soon after the 10am central time zone began. The shooter might have been in custody but his name wasn’t released. He might have sent it to some people or sites but it just seems a little strange that it surfaced so quickly. I will guarantee that it was not found or released by authorities on his person, in his vehicle, in his residence or on his computer. This is a leak that while might be true is not one I’ll believe until authorities confirm it in the days to come if true.
 
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Chdamn's Wife said:
This is totally my opinion and I have zero proof to back this up, but I do not believe he wrote that manifesto. Those do not sound like the words of a 21 year old. I don’t care how wise you are. IMO, someone else either helped him or wrote it for him.
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Never underestimate the brain power a 21 year old can muster when not encumbered by friendships and female companionship.


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Button Pusher said:
Sad these politicians demand action when people die in Walmart but are silent about the deaths in Chicago each weekend.
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Because those deaths are gang related which is different than random people who aren't involved in gang life being gunned down by some lunatic.

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https://www.ktsm.com/local/el-paso-...-inside-el-paso-cielo-vista-walmart-shooting/

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Around 00:22.....

Eyewitness account ain’t matching up with news reports.

“...saw three men running in and they were all dressed in black...holding guns...shooting the guns...”


http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/everything-we-know-about-the-el-paso-walmart-shooting.html

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https://fox6now.com/2019/08/03/multiple-victims-injured-in-shooting-at-walmart-in-el-paso-texas/

“I heard the shots but I thought they were hits, like roof construction,” said Adriana Quezada, 39, who was in the women’s clothing section of Walmart with her two children.

Quezada said she saw four men, dressed in black, moving together firing guns indiscriminately.”
 
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Wahoo95 said:
Because those deaths are gang related which is different than random people who aren't involved in gang life being gunned down by some lunatic.

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Gang members only kill gang members? Gang members dont kill "innocent"(relative term) non gang member when they are robbing, raping, initiating etc?

ETA Would you not consider gang members lunatics too?

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Winn10 said:
Gang members only kill gang members? Gang members dont kill "innocent"(relative term) non gang member when they are robbing, raping, initiating etc?

ETA Would you not consider gang members lunatics too?

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For the purposes of the argument people are trying g to make when they reference Chicago....NO. Those innocents affected are far outnumbered by those criminals that die to the game.

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https://www.ktsm.com/local/el-paso-...-inside-el-paso-cielo-vista-walmart-shooting/

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Around 00:22.....

Eyewitness account ain’t matching up with news reports.

“...saw three men running in and they were all dressed in black...holding guns...shooting the guns...”


http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/everything-we-know-about-the-el-paso-walmart-shooting.html

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The old “15 minutes of fame” phrase comes to mind. FOX News had some guy call in saying he was there and help get you down children out that were alone in a playground area. He went on to say he was from the Killeen area and in the Army and legally carrying a firearm ... going on to say it and all his firearms were “registered”. Something about his account just went a little to much into the self proclaimed hero realm. Sure he might have helped but just a little to much other stuff.
 
Wahoo95 said:
Gotta love the way he speaks white supremacist talk then says the media will be wrong when they try to paint him as a white supremacist.....smh

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Anti race mixing is not white supremacist. It is only survival of ones tribe.
 
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JimB said:
This I do not believe. They are making up a big number to say how much worse ot could have been.
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Agree 100%...

I saw another report that stated “3000 were in the store”.

BS
 
We are all mutts. Take a DNA test...no one has one single line that goes all the way back Adam. Genetic diversity is the manner in which our species survives.

Poodles, blood hounds, German shepherds, all have been genetically bread for hundreds if not thousands of years taking the optimal traits from different animals to produce a specific outcome.

My main issue with this “person” who did this is that I agree we are facing an immigration crisis. But the solution isn’t blasting away at people in Walmart. If he truly felt it was an invasion, as someone said, he would have posted up at a border crossing and sniped at illegals sneaking across the border. It would still be moronic, but at least would make sense.


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B00ger said:
We are all mutts. Take a DNA test...no one has one single line that goes all the way back Adam. Genetic diversity is the manner in which our species survives.

Poodles, blood hounds, German shepherds, all have been genetically bread for hundreds if not thousands of years taking the optimal traits from different animals to produce a specific outcome.

My main issue with this “person” who did this is that I agree we are facing an immigration crisis. But the solution isn’t blasting away at people in Walmart. If he truly felt it was an invasion, as someone said, he would have posted up at a border crossing and sniped at illegals sneaking across the border. It would still be moronic, but at least would make sense.


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Too many Border Patrol and Customs officers at the border. He knew they would have shot back at him... Thankfully, Walmart is not a gun free zone, but he knew there would be zero armed leo at this Walmart... Again, I believe he was looking for a soft target, like all of the others... They go to the place with the least possibility of return fire...
 
Alabamacoastie said:
Too many Border Patrol and Customs officers at the border. He knew they would have shot back at him... Thankfully, Walmart is not a gun free zone, but he knew there would be zero armed leo at this Walmart... Again, I believe he was looking for a soft target, like all of the others... They go to the place with the least possibility of return fire...
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Oh, no argument here. Guy was a complete and total coward. He wasn’t trying to fight back against invaders, he was shooting people buying pencils. My point being if he truly believed the drivel he wrote he would have fought invaders, not blue light special shoppers.


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B00ger said:
Oh, no argument here. Guy was a complete and total coward. He wasn’t trying to fight back against invaders, he was shooting people buying pencils. My point being if he truly believed the drivel he wrote he would have fought invaders, not blue light special shoppers.


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I totally agree with you.

He was too cowardly to follow through with his own rhetoric. He was a coward, looking for a soft target...
 
Man I don’t even watch the news haven’t for years. Only time I hear of shit like this is on here my honest opinion of all the shooters is they have always been dust in the wind. This is only way anyone will ever remember them .
 
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grungewehr39 said:
Several of the attention whores in congress, etc. are calling for something to stop this from happening. This may get ugly.
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When they can tell us how to stop a man from placing an IED in a place of worship, open market or vehicle and murder lots of people,
then they will have the answer.
 
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