Trump giving in to gun control?

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just heard on rush show a snippet of Trump saying that Wayne from the NRA will need to come around to some sort of gun control.
Disappointed in Trump but not shocked at all.
 
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We already have some sort of gun control. Lots of it actually considering the second amendment suggests that the right shall not be infringed.

But with the media and dems whipping soccer moms , brainwashed college brats and liberal city folks into a freaked out frenzy - nothing they pass would suprise me.
 
I’ve long said, if the left would embrace Trump they would get wins all over the board.


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I don’t know what he would gain by doing anything with the dems. He could cure cancer, bring world peace and solve world hunger and they would still hate him and call him every name in the book. Maybe he is thinking that by doing something on gun control he may win over some more voters. Not sure it will offset the ones he may lose in the process though.
 
I don’t know what he would gain by doing anything with the dems. He could cure cancer, bring world peace and solve world hunger and they would still hate him and call him every name in the book. Maybe he is thinking that by doing something on gun control he may win over some more voters. Not sure it will offset the ones he may lose in the process though.

Oh, no argument there. But if they gave him a slight nudge or approval when he speaks out in favor of gun control they could start a fudd avalanche that would make the AWB look like a prosperous time for the AR community. Trump, regardless of how you feel about him, is a narcissist. Acknowledge his greatness and he embraces you, oppose him and he shuts you down with insults.

And for the most part, I supported him in a lot of what he has done. But he has proven to flow with the tides.


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“You Liberty minded people and your.....your “principles!”. Don't you get it? This election is just too critical, too important! He's not perfect, but Trump said the Second Amendment is safe with him! MAGA...."

Bump stocks, probably suppressors, likely Red Flag laws.

I'm glad too few of you are willing to stand for what you believe in when you enter the ballot box, making sure those principles can't possibly win. Any and all gun control in the Trump era is on y'all.

Thanks for "putting America first."

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Gotta go through the Senate first, so emails and phone calls. He can't sign what he does not get.

He's played this game of chicken before though. But I don't like what I'm hearing, other than ensuring the NRA will be at the table. But that's not what it used to be either.
 
He's dipped pretty good recently because of all this in the only polls he pays attention to. You would imagine, since that's the only thing he cares about, that he would decide not to do this.

On the other hand he's being played by his daughter and her husband so... You guys need to understand he likely doesn't want to be president for another four years.
 
Gotta go through the Senate first, so emails and phone calls. He can't sign what he does not get.

He's played this game of chicken before though. But I don't like what I'm hearing, other than ensuring the NRA will be at the table. But that's not what it used to be either.

I thought McConnell already said it was too important and that they would pass “something” in September? Trying to find something written...heard that on the radio Thursday.
 
”You Liberty minded people and your.....your “principles!”. Don't you get it?
In the primary, despite reservations about him, I voted for Cruz. In the general, given the choice between Trump and Clinton, which really was the choice, not having Clinton took precedence. I don’t know what we could have done better given the cards we were dealt.
 
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In the primary, despite reservations about him, I voted for Cruz. In the general, given the choice between Trump and Clinton, which really was the choice, not having Clinton took precedence. I don’t know what we could have done better given the cards we were dealt.

Would your response to gun control be any different if it was enacted by Clinton instead of Trump?
 
Would your response to gun control be any different if it was enacted by Clinton instead of Trump?
I would oppose it just the same. Of those two, Trump at least tends to be more easily swayed by what’s popular, meaning there is a chance for him to do the right thing if people are vocal enough. Clinton wouldn’t provide such an opportunity.
 
I would oppose it just the same. Of those two, Trump at least tends to be more easily swayed by what’s popular, meaning there is a chance for him to do the right thing if people are vocal enough. Clinton wouldn’t provide such an opportunity.

Do you think this country is going to go sideways in your lifetime?
 
Do you think this country is going to go sideways in your lifetime?
Yes. I do. My money has been on 2025, but I’m starting to think it could be sooner. Gun control could be one of a few possibilities that will set it off.

I also don’t think it would have been possible to prevent it through voting, or the political process.
 
Yes. I do. My money has been on 2025, but I’m starting to think it could be sooner. Gun control could be one of a few possibilities that will set it off.

I also don’t think it would have been possible to prevent it through voting, or the political process.

Which is why I argue, you have to stand on principle long before things get into a more dynamic stage.

It's what provides the moral reasons for being forced into a fight.
 
Note, I was writing this as you commented to the same effect.

@SPM one of the things your writings have done is cause me to better understand the moral war. I am realizing the need to do everything possible to stop this sort of political BS. When the day comes that I am forced to pull that trigger, I will do so knowing it’s the last resort and will not hesitate to do so again and again as necessary or as long as I’m able.
 
Note, I was writing this as you commented to the same effect.

@SPM one of the things your writings have done is cause me to better understand the moral war. I am realizing the need to do everything possible to stop this sort of political BS. When the day comes that I am forced to pull that trigger, I will do so knowing it’s the last resort and will not hesitate to do so again and again as necessary or as long as I’m able.

Exactly. When I read the Declaration of Independence, I focus most on the grievances section.....not simply the indictments levelled at George III, but recognizing all the steps our ancestors took prior to firing the shot heard 'round the world, trying to mend the growing divide.

That's what gave the cause it's moral standing. That moral clarity is also what held the Continental Army together through 8 years of war...and army composed of "infinitely less, oft-times half starved, always in rags, and at times, experiencing every species of suffering mankind is capable of undergoing."
 
@chiefjason how do you see this as Trump playing chicken with our rights?
He wants NRA on board so he can justify his actions, in my opinion. This isnt a good thing for us.

Don't expect me to figure this one out. But he has said things in a way to fool Pelosi into making public comments, then pivoted to embarrass the left. It wouldn't be the first time. I've not had time to even look at the Dem proposal yet. I'm sure it ridiculous. FWIW, I have big concerns over some of the comments he has made. He says he's pro 2A but not like the guys in office that actually own and shoot and don't come from urban areas. If he's pro 2a it's by position more than it's by belief.
 
You know, back in 2016, there was a thought that Trump was a plant to make sure Hillary got elected.

What if that were true, but the election didn't go the way it was supposed to go, and now the powers that be are just making due?

Food for thought.
 
You know, back in 2016, there was a thought that Trump was a plant to make sure Hillary got elected.

What if that were true, but the election didn't go the way it was supposed to go, and now the powers that be are just making due?

Food for thought.
Not that I believe it but would it really surprise me if was true ? HELL NO
 
Guys, T knows what he's doing, he's getting the left riled up - arent you entertained by his tweets?
 
In the primary, despite reservations about him, I voted for Cruz. In the general, given the choice between Trump and Clinton, which really was the choice, not having Clinton took precedence. I don’t know what we could have done better given the cards we were dealt.

We keep telling him that and he keeps typing the same old response. I wonder if he actually understands the Primary system. Or maybe he thinks you should let the vicious dogs into your house so your good German Shepherd will realize he's supposed to be doing a better job protecting you. After all, how much damage could the Democrats do to gun rights in just four years?
 
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