Indiana Mother Charged With Felonies After Son Breaks Into Gun Safe

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An arrest warrant was issued on Tuesday for Mary York, the Wayne County, Indiana, parent whose son, then-14-year-old Brandon Clegg, stormed his middle school in December 2018 with a pistol and shotgun in an effort to slaughter classmates before turning the weapons on himself.

York, 43, was charged with six felonies relating to child endangerment, as Clegg was often left unsupervised overnight while an ineffective gun locker was stowed in the basement containing several firearms. Clegg had struggled with mental health issues for several years before deciding to attempt a mass shooting at Dennis Middle School in Richmond, where he killed himself once confronted by police, according to a law enforcement affidavit.

A gun safe and gun locker are two different things.

SPST said:

A gun safe and gun locker are two different things.

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Yeah, I wonder what it really was. Maybe a file cabinet or an old glass from gun case?

SPST said:

A gun safe and gun locker are two different things.

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Either way she had them under lock and key...

Slippery slope here. What determines ineffective?? How ineffective?? Child resistant? Crowbar resistant? Cutting torch resistant? Would they require a tamper resistance rating?

Just sayin'...

Harbor Freight grinder?

Agree it’s a slippery slope. Matter of state law, or do you see a constitutional argument?

Button Pusher said:

Harbor Freight grinder?

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Maybe dewalt

I recall when shopping for safes, I saw a video where two guys with a crowbar were able to get a huge $1,000 safe like you get at Sam’s Club open in under 5:00 minutes....

The point to it is that anything can be broken into with enough time & leverage.

She secured them. Kid broke into whatever and stole the guns. Looking for a scape goat. Mother already lost her son and this doesn't help. Whether or not the 14 yo was unsupervised and left alone. That's for the parent to decide.

CD

Once again, our broken legal system won’t place their focus on the bad actor.
I hope someone like GOA steps in to help her.

Sounds like mother of a mentally unstable child left that child unsupervised, she should be charged for that. I don’t see charges related to how she stored the guns sticking. I bet this is really just because the prosecutor wants to implement a storage law in IN which doesn’t currently have one.

Of course such law will apply to everyone, and might even include random state inspections.

I too have to wonder what sort of secure storage she had. Who knows what she could afford? Maybe that's the best she could do.

I have a $159 StackOn "California Compliant" storage cabinet. That would be considered secure most everywhere. Legally anyway. It would be a bit more difficult to break in to than a good steel cabinet, but not much. I never felt really secure storing actual firearms in it. It has ammo and accessories now. A firearm only when it has to be locked up for kids or when we had parties where unfamiliar people might be there. I got a real safe asap. That's me.

The firearms get stored in a safe. Bolted to the floor. And yes, as MadMan4Ever mentioned, anything can be broken into. At least if someone wants into mine, they're gonna have to work hard for it.

JimB said:

Agree it’s a slippery slope. Matter of state law, or do you see a constitutional argument?

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I don't see it as a constitutional issue. But, if it sticks... Does your house have a sufficient lock to stop a burglar? Does the fact that someone manages to break into your house/gun locker/safe define insufficientcy?

Combat Diver said:

Looking for a scape goat.

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Pound of flesh...…………..

georgel said:

I don't see it as a constitutional issue. But, if it sticks... Does your house have a sufficient lock to stop a burglar? Does the fact that someone manages to break into your house/gun locker/safe define insufficientcy?

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I’m sure that you meant that rhetorically, but just in case not please know that I recognize the issue and share your concern.

Like I said above, this is about an agenda, not a specific prosecution.

TripleO7 said:

I have a $159 StackOn "California Compliant" storage cabinet.

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I have several 'CA Compliant' storage boxes. Unless they've changed things since I left, the qualification was basically "have to paid your money to the DOJ?" because these could be opened with harsh language and a stern look.

At the time, you had to sign an affidavit saying you had something at home to store them in or they would make you buy something before you could take your new toy home. The last time I bought something I had to sign and provide the manufacturer/model of the device and show a dated sales receipt, otherwise pay the $25 for a box.

Mandating morality and responsibility is hard, yo. Glad our lawmakers are up to the task!

JimB said:

I’m sure that you meant that rhetorically, but just in case not please know that I recognize the issue and share your concern.

Like I said above, this is about an agenda, not a specific prosecution.

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Yes. And agreed. Here I am applying logic when logic doesn't matter. They will only hear what they want to hear and only believe what they want to believe.

Problem I see, if the charges stick, is precedence set to harangue gun owners who are the victim of a theft.
'You did not provide sufficient storage and therefore are accessory to whatever crime is committed with what was stolen from you."

Guess I'm just skeptical at the 'good will' of our law makers.