Is Your Local Police Gathering Names For Their Own Government Gun Database?

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Interesting,

NRA is not on board with the program

GOA is interested and starting to wonder if the collection data scheme is going nation wide.

Link for the vid is in the box.

Program starts about 4:40

 
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HMP said:
They already know about most of us, Im sure 99% on here have done a 4473 in the past
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H , H,, H,

Yup, well,

When I was in grammar school I remember our teacher giving the class a TEST.
The directions for the test were double spaced.

There were several lines of instructions directing the test taker to do different things like draw a line on the bottom edge, draw 3 small circles in the upper left corner, and on, on.

The first line stated to READ the entire sheet before you do anything.

The LAST line stated to print your name and date at the top and that's it, nothing else.


So, like 80% of the class is very busy following all the instructions per each line while 20% of us were waiting for everyone to get done.

So, yes like 80% of the class FAILED that test because they knew what was on the test already and decided they would just proceed.

OOPS!

The info I shared is NOT about 4473's, but another scheme gov't types are harvesting info.

FWIW
 
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Great story, seen it before too
BUT
That doesnt change the fact that local governments can figure out who owns guns already without some grand scheme
 
HMP said:
Great story, seen it before too
BUT
That doesnt change the fact that local governments can figure out who owns guns already without some grand scheme
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If govt. including at the local level is concerned about people being armed, it’s a pretty good indication that the time to put those arms to use draws near.

There hasn’t been a govt. in history that went the confiscation route that didn’t eventually go sideways afterwards.
 
noway2 said:
If govt. including at the local level is concerned about people being armed, it’s a pretty good indication that the time to put those arms to use draws near.

There hasn’t been a govt. in history that went the confiscation route that didn’t eventually go sideways afterwards.
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Right on
Sounds like time to kick off the boogaloo, yeah?
 
YeeHaa said:
H , H,, H,

Yup, well,

When I was in grammar school I remember our teacher giving the class a TEST.
The directions for the test were double spaced.

There were several lines of instructions directing the test taker to do different things like draw a line on the bottom edge, draw 3 small circles in the upper left corner, and on, on.

The first line stated to READ the entire sheet before you do anything.

The LAST line stated to print your name and date at the top and that's it, nothing else.


So, like 80% of the class is very busy following all the instructions per each line while 20% of us were waiting for everyone to get done.

So, yes like 80% of the class FAILED that test because they knew what was on the test already and decided they would just proceed.

OOPS!

The info I shared is NOT about 4473's, but another scheme gov't types are harvesting info.

FWIW
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So the last line said, "Don't do any of the stuff stated above"? I just want to be sure. The way you have it stated, could mean two different things. I don't want to fail the test.
 
Goofyfoot2001 said:
So the last line said, "Don't do any of the stuff stated above"? I just want to be sure. The way you have it stated, could mean two different things. I don't want to fail the test.
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???


Was in reply to H's statement,
HMP said:
They already know about most of us, Im sure 99% on here have done a 4473 in the past
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There is NO test.
The test part ( while true ) was to point out two things, Prejudging & Following Directions.
In the case with the shared content, and of the two reasons, it was Prejudged.

The shared material points out a new scheme to update illegal gun databases and is not involving 4473's.


 
Goofyfoot2001 said:
So the last line said, "Don't do any of the stuff stated above"? I just want to be sure. The way you have it stated, could mean two different things. I don't want to fail the test.
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Actually this is a pretty standard, are you following instructions, test. And yes, it says skip all the previous instructions, put your name on it and turn it in.


I think the point here is that local PD or Sheriff's office is collecting information on guns and who's pawning them (implying ownership/possession) They legally they cannot use 4473's. There are restrictions on that. Even though I believe the pawners have to fill one out to get the gun back. So, it's an end run around certain rules and regulations. And in my opinion a violation of the 4th.
 
Ikarus1 said:
Not every gun owner has a CHP. I would say less than 10%
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Yep, why I said partial ... NC is right at 700,000 CHP’s for almost 8.5%. Now how many people in NC actually own a firearm? Yep, way more than 700,000 out of almost 11,000,000 but the Sheriff (as well as other LEO’s) do have a partial start that is legal under NC General Statutes. Even worse do they abuse that CHP roster? Yes, I know a couple LEO’s personally who run plates while patrolling and things are slow and their little computer tells them if that plate’s owner has a CHP. Now they don’t act unless the driver is doing something they have reason to pull them for but those LEO’s do know there is a good chance there is a firearm in that vehicle.
 
NCFubar said:
Yep, why I said partial ... NC is right at 700,000 CHP’s for almost 8.5%. Now how many people in NC actually own a firearm? Yep, way more than 700,000 out of almost 11,000,000 but the Sheriff (as well as other LEO’s) do have a partial start that is legal under NC General Statutes. Even worse do they abuse that CHP roster? Yes, I know a couple LEO’s personally who run plates while patrolling and things are slow and their little computer tells them if that plate’s owner has a CHP. Now they don’t act unless the driver is doing something they have reason to pull them for but those LEO’s do know there is a good chance there is a firearm in that vehicle.
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But how do they know when the criminals have guns? I'm not an LEO but I would assume everyone is armed nowadays, and a CHP owner would or should be the least of my worries.
 
NCFubar said:
Yes, I know a couple LEO’s personally who run plates while patrolling and things are slow and their little computer tells them if that plate’s owner has a CHP.
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All the more reason not to register cars to yourself, but to use an LLC or other company car, or even a trust.
 
noway2 said:
As you like to say, go for it. I’ll follow you to join the party.
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I never suggested such, but you seem to love talking about how you wish someone else would kick it off.
 
Im sure every IP location thats accessed or posted on any firearm Forum is also logged and tagged.

Just remember what Snowden released for us to comprehend... the man is ALWAYS watching
 
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Ncmitch said:
Im sure every IP location thats accessed or posted on any firearm Forum is also logged and tagged.

Just remember what Snowden released for us to comprehend... the man is ALWAYS watching
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That is so true, it has been for decades, they just keep making their collection methods better.

This post is about one or two offices in Florida abusing a Florida law.

According to Florida Statute 790.335, No government agency can “knowingly and willfully keep or cause to be kept any list, record, or registry of privately owned firearms or any list, record, or registry of the owners of those firearms.”
Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2019/10/fl...charlotte-county-sheriffs-dept/#ixzz62erC0qmy
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The shenanigans these offices are doing to abuse the law are raising concerns with GOA wondering if such schemes are in play in other states.

Sadly, it's been my experience that the vast majority of the Active members here fail to understand these actions and outlaying concerns as they portray the Larger image of a Bunker Mentality, which is Exclusive.

Case in point;
Several of the Exclusive Members actually post and brag about getting good deals and flipping at a profit, which if Big Bro wanted to would make several of them an unofficial FFL Dealer.

In our current political environment , we Americans, have many Rights, besides our 2A Right, that are in danger of being extinguished.
 
HMP said:
They already know about most of us, Im sure 99% on here have done a 4473 in the past
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Those don't go anywhere until the store shuts down. Unless you fill out those electronic ones. Not sure how They work.

Can the feds find out? Yep but they got to haul their butts down there and do ofmth old fashioned way.
 
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