LPVO options

Which LVPO

  • Steiner

    Votes: 12 50.0%
  • Trijicon

    Votes: 6 25.0%
  • Vortex

    Votes: 6 25.0%

  • Total voters
    24
Good stuff. Most of the time people simply defend their purchase right? We really need guys (gals) who have multiple optics of the same type to give us a good reviews. Most people are not buying 5 different LPVO's and giving us their reviews. What would be really cool is if there was a CFF meet up people brought their gear and then comparisons were done and someone recorded the results. If you could get 10-20 people to show up you could have a wide range of things to test and review. Maybe even post on here what items you need to test and see who has it and would want to participate.

Chuckman, I agree with you about things being subjective. You may have one person who nit picks something that isn't actually critical to most people. Most of the times these people are the ones who buy 10 different models of stuff and may not use it hard, more of a collector. We need these guys those for the nitty gritty details. For me i want durability and repeatability, I weight those very high on the list.

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I was expecting apples to apples considering both were $1500+ optics. I think the model I had was the SR8-C or something like that.

My first thought about the Mk6 when it came out was "meh, it'll be the Mk4 with upgrades." Honestly, it's closer to S&B rarified air. I think that USO is a really good optic, but doesn't come close to the Mk6. I agree, though, you'd think optics in the same price range would be more comparable.
 
My first thought about the Mk6 when it came out was "meh, it'll be the Mk4 with upgrades." Honestly, it's closer to S&B rarified air. I think that USO is a really good optic, but doesn't come close to the Mk6. I agree, though, you'd think optics in the same price range would be more comparable.
Yep, that was my take on it as well. I currently have a Mk5 HD 5-25 on my long range rig (that I never have time to shoot) and the glass quality may be better than the Mk6. It is a fantastic optic.
 
The TS-8x USO isn’t on the same playing field as a Mk6. USO does make some stuff on a higher level but this is supposed to compete with stuff in the $700-$1000 range.

Even an S&B short dot 1-8 and a Leupold Mk8 have strengths and weaknesses ($3500+ optics) that make your intended use the deciding factor because one excels more at closer work due to reticle and illum and one is better for slightly longer shots in an DM type role due to the reticle not being as bright but being more precise for longer shots. Even though they are both high dollar and high quality optics with the same zoom range, there are subtle differences that end up vastly influencing the intended role you want it to fill despite being similar on paper

This is why it’s very hard to recommend a scope to someone without knowing what they’re going to be doing with it unless they just want to be able to see a little further and bang steel at 100yds or something. I’m over simplifying the example but there are so many differences in optics out there even in the same class, you need a lot of experience with a lot of optics to truly make a solid recommendation...which is why I try to beg borrow and shoot as many optics as I can to review...just so I can learn about them
 
IMO, go to to a big 3gun match and watch what the top people use.
Targets from 5 feet to 500 yards, while on the clock and in any position you can imagine, being engaged by the best shooters in the world.

It's weeded out a lot of what doesn't work.
 
IMO, go to to a big 3gun match and watch what the top people use.
Targets from 5 feet to 500 yards, while on the clock and in any position you can imagine, being engaged by the best shooters in the world.

It's weeded out a lot of what doesn't work.

DO you think what they shoot is based on sponsors?
 
DO you think what they shoot is based on sponsors?

I’m sure Jerry gets paid to use Vortex. But he designed the reticle of the scope. And it’s a Razor. Used by many. Also Jarret, but he designed the Cmore as well.
They are both similar scopes to other top glass from Swarovski, Kahles, etc. reticles are very similar.

But of you go to a local one here you are likely to see no paid sponsorships.
They shoot what they want to.
And likely several of the top 10 will will be top tier guys from Bragg who also use their scopes at work. So I feel like it’s going to give a good idea of what works.
 
Ryan Coe (at Apex Defense) and I were talking this weekend and he thinks highly of the Burris - both the RT6 and XTR. Will i be shooting at stuff past 400 yards with my AR? Probably not. For what i do a 1X6 is about all i need, then it comes down to that durability question. There was a great sale recently on the XTR and i wish i had picked one up now. With the holiday sales coming up i am going to wait and see what pops up around black Friday. I ran a Black Friday sales post last year and there was some good deals people linked up. More time to strategize i guess.
 
Here's a deal: Bushnell Elite Tactical SMRS 1-8.5x24

I have one on the way.

It's heavy for a LPVO, and it's FFP; but I'm putting it on a .308 bolt gun, so having a tiny reticle at 1x shouldn't be much of an issue. If I don't like the weight on the relatively light bolt gun it's going on, I'll try it on my PTR. It won't even notice.

Camera land also has the FFP version of the Burris 1-8 on sale.
 
Here's a deal: Bushnell Elite Tactical SMRS 1-8.5x24

I have one on the way.

It's heavy for a LPVO, and it's FFP; but I'm putting it on a .308 bolt gun, so having a tiny reticle at 1x shouldn't be much of an issue. If I don't like the weight on the relatively light bolt gun it's going on, I'll try it on my PTR. It won't even notice.

Camera land also has the FFP version of the Burris 1-8 on sale.

If anyone picks one up and wants to swap for a 2nd focal plane let me know!
 
I got to sight in the Burris XTR the other day. The only issue I have is more due to to my lack of knowledge of scopes. I am trying to focus the reticle diopter and I'm not sure if I'm getting it right. It seems like on a 1 power scope to run like a red dot, you want the diopter focused so that the scope image looks the same as your normal vision so that you can run it with both eyes open. Is that the case, or do I want to adjust the diopter so that the recticle is as crisp as possible while staring at the sky?
 
I got to sight in the Burris XTR the other day. The only issue I have is more due to to my lack of knowledge of scopes. I am trying to focus the reticle diopter and I'm not sure if I'm getting it right. It seems like on a 1 power scope to run like a red dot, you want the diopter focused so that the scope image looks the same as your normal vision so that you can run it with both eyes open. Is that the case, or do I want to adjust the diopter so that the recticle is as crisp as possible while staring at the sky?

From the Steiner manual (this is almost verbatim for every scope I have)
Focus on the reticle:
EYEPIECE FOCUSING The eyepiece can be focused so that the reticle appears sharp and black to your eyes. Adjusting the focus is quick and easy to do. To adjust the eyepiece, follow this procedure: 1. Point the scope at the sky or a plain wall and take a quick glance through the scope. If the reticle appears sharp and black, no further adjustment is necessary. 2. If the reticle is not clear, use quick glances through the scope while rotating the focus ring until the reticle is sharp and black. NOTE: Do not look through the eyepiece as you turn the focus ring. Your eyes will adjust to the out-offocus condition, and prevent you from achieving optimal focus.
 
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That is a smoking deal. I may have been tempted away from the Burris for that one.
 
Good deal but man I hate that reticle.
 
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