Justice Dept. rolls out new program to combat gun violence

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If an individual has already committed crime(s) with firearms, how is that combating gun violence?

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) — Attorney General William Barr announced a new initiative Wednesday that would better enforce the U.S. gun background check system, coordinate state and federal gun cases and ensure prosecutors quickly update databases to show when a defendant can’t possess a firearm because of mental health issues.

The push, known as Project Guardian, was unveiled at a news conference in Memphis, Tennessee, alongside officials from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, on the same day public impeachment hearings against President Donald Trump began in Washington.

As part of the program, U.S. prosecutors will coordinate with state and local law enforcement officials to consider potential federal charges when a suspect is arrested for weapons possession, is believed to have used a gun to commit a violent crime or drug-trafficking offense or is suspected of being a violent gang member.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/justice-dept-rolls-program-combat-164633187.html
 
Button Pusher said:
Project Guardian
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Operation Desert Storm
Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Dept. of Homeland Security
Patriot Act

And soon to come-
Operation Feel Good
Operation Look at Something Else
Act of Illusions
Dept. of You'll believe any freaking thing we tell you as long as we come up with some stupid catchy sales pitch that you know is a fish hook but you don't care because it sounds good and that's what really matters to your peanut size brain.
 
I don't know anything about this new program other than what is in the OP--in it, as in, I didn't even bother to click the link yet. sorry--but it sounds like possibly there's an attempt to allow the feds to pick up the slack when local prosecutors seem hesitant to pursue violent criminals. This issue came up around here recently: https://www.carolinafirearmsforum.c...ors-are-regularly-dropping-gun-charges.50031/
 
Most violent crimes are a small number of repeat offenders. Get them off the streets, things might get better. That was one of the points of Broken Windows, not sure it was worth some of the cost or not.

But lets be honest, you can't legitimately raise cain about the laws not being followed and fuss about them announcing they are going to try harder to follow the law. They are doing nothing more than focusing on what they should have been focusing on all along. That's a plus in my book. As long as they follow through.
 
Moylan said:
I don't know anything about this new program other than what is in the OP--in it, as in, I didn't even bother to click the link yet. sorry--but it sounds like possibly there's an attempt to allow the feds to pick up the slack when local prosecutors seem hesitant to pursue violent criminals. This issue came up around here recently: https://www.carolinafirearmsforum.c...ors-are-regularly-dropping-gun-charges.50031/
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Like that fake Russian dude who got prison for weed and all his guns consficated.
 
MikeDawg46L said:
Well, he had $400k worth of private property stolen and made a felon over enough weed for a fun Saturday night. I don’t think that’s what we’re all asking for.
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We're constantly asking for existing laws to be enforced and that's what happened. So where's the bitch?? And his "400k worth of property" wasn't stolen, it was forfeited when he broke the law......
A lot of you may not like it but until the law is changed it is what it is, don't do the crime if you can't do the time... I wonder if Saturday night was memorable for him???
 
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We're constantly asking for existing laws to be enforced and that's what happened. So where's the bitch?? And his "400k worth of property" wasn't stolen, it was forfeited when he broke the law......
A lot of you may not like it but until the law is changed it is what it is, don't do the crime if you can't do the time... I wonder if Saturday night was memorable for him???
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It’s selective enforcement, and I think you know that already so no need harping on it.

When I see violent criminals, politicians, and trust fund kids having the laws already on the books enforced on them, we can take another stab at this conversation.

For the record, I don’t disagree with the root of your comments. It’s just shitty when they take a known “celeb” (and I do use that term rather generously here) in the gun world and enforce such laws to the extent that they did to be made an example of, all over a recreational plant.
 
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As part of the program, U.S. prosecutors will coordinate with state and local law enforcement officials to consider potential federal charges when a suspect is arrested for weapons possession, is believed to have used a gun to commit a violent crime or drug-trafficking offense or is suspected of being a violent gang member.
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If an individual is a member of a drug cartel that had their weapon supplied to them by the government of the United States, will they be exempt from this?
 
Every time some agency says they are going to start enforcing the law, that lasts only until some "community leader" discovers that "their people" are disproportionately arrested. For example, FBI district that includes Chicago announced a few years ago that they would not prosecute straw purchases because too many of the defendants were girlfriends of gang members.

So they go back to auditing gun shop paperwork and verifying that some dentist answered all the questions right. Besides, it's easier and safer than chasing gang members through the cold streets of Chicago.
 
MostWanted said:
Every time some agency says they are going to start enforcing the law, that lasts only until some "community leader" discovers that "their people" are disproportionately arrested. For example, FBI district that includes Chicago announced a few years ago that they would not prosecute straw purchases because too many of the defendants were girlfriends of gang members.

So they go back to auditing gun shop paperwork and verifying that some dentist answered all the questions right. Besides, it's easier and safer than chasing gang members through the cold streets of Chicago.
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Well, yeah. You can get shot doing s!!t like that.
 
MostWanted said:
Every time some agency says they are going to start enforcing the law, that lasts only until some "community leader" discovers that "their people" are disproportionately arrested. For example, FBI district that includes Chicago announced a few years ago that they would not prosecute straw purchases because too many of the defendants were girlfriends of gang members.

So they go back to auditing gun shop paperwork and verifying that some dentist answered all the questions right. Besides, it's easier and safer than chasing gang members through the cold streets of Chicago.
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Bottom line, though. is that these girlfriends of gang members are doing us all a favor, on the practical side. If you are not one of those dreamy eyed morons who believe that good intentions with reasonable statutes can WORK when the state intrudes on issues of freedom, we should cheer every time some criminal sociopath forces the state (the bigger criminal sociopath) to concede that it simply cannot do its job.

What I don't understand is the naive credulousness in our crowd of nitwits who cluck in dismay at the PC nonsense cited here, and imagine that the cure is to get rid of PC nonsense in the leo, rather than simply nuke the whole enterprise and say "the founders were right..... the society must be left to police itself and given the freedoms to do so."

What a novel idea that would be!
 
tanstaafl72555 said:
What I don't understand is the naive credulousness in our crowd of nitwits who cluck in dismay at the PC nonsense cited here, and imagine that the cure is to get rid of PC nonsense in the leo, rather than simply nuke the whole enterprise and say "the founders were right..... the society must be left to police itself and given the freedoms to do so."
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We used to. As I’ve said in several threads, govt. police is a fairly modern concept dating to the mid to late 1800s. We’ve expanded that to the idea of jail and prison which is really just giving the criminals a glorified timeout, much like one would a toddler. Back in the day, when The People claimed the powers they are entitled to, the punishment would have been swift and severe, likely resulting in a near zero recidivism rate.

We frequently hear about the need to get govt. out of the way. Why should justice be any different?
 
it sounds a lot like project exile that made Richmond VA much safer in the early 1980 and yes it did work
 
tanstaafl72555 said:
What I don't understand is the naive credulousness in our crowd of nitwits who cluck in dismay at the PC nonsense cited here, and imagine that the cure is to get rid of PC nonsense in the leo, rather than simply nuke the whole enterprise and say "the founders were right..... the society must be left to police itself and given the freedoms to do so."

What a novel idea that would be!
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OT but relevant: https://pjmedia.com/trending/doctor...ewborns-whose-parents-refuse-vitamin-k-shots/

We in this country have forgotten what freedom and liberty are. Today, we own nothing, we only have anything, including our children, on loan from government, until such time that government decides we are no longer entitled to whatever it is they want to take. And we're ok with it.

Government LE? What about the US military? I seem to recall some pretty heavy warnings about a standing army from the founders...
 
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