Chick-Fil-A Donates to Extremist Southern Poverty Law Center

Wow, I never saw this coming! Never in 1 million years would I have thought that CFA would donate to SPLC
 
That was a 2017 filing. So, it's not like they just suddenly changed. They obviously have been giving to various organizations all along. But, I do resent them caving to the left for giving to Christian organizations. I mean they're still not open on Sundays.
 
Why can’t the business just reinvest in the business? Instead of giving to a charity even, give it to the employees as profit sharing and let them donate it if they so choose. They’re the ones that created the profit through their efforts. Let them decide what to do with the fruits of their labor.
 
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Every donation has to be reported, right? How do we know one person donated somewhere in the organization without Dan Cathy knowing?

I look at the primary slant of the company, assuming they have one. CFA is one of the few that leans right.

One theory is that someone with the ability to donate on behalf of CFA is making these donations to undermine the company from within. I wouldn’t put it past the leftists to do so.
 
Imagine who Pie Pie’s contributes to. :eek:
 
How about let them do as they please? They don't have gun buster signs, they make decent food, and they run a tight ship. I don't care beyond that...
I'm with you Big but with an addendum...I like what Ole Waltrip told is team mate at JJ Racing. I don't need your help to do anything, drive and do as you please....just don't hurt me.
As long as they do Exactly what you said And...don't hurt us....I'm in.
 
SPLC is evil incarnate. This makes no sense. :(

edit - article says $2500, which is chump change. It's still not good.
 
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$9 million possibly to Covenant House, an LGBT charity too. Pro abortion. With a leader being investigated for sexually abusing children in his care. I might go back, just don’t eat out much anyway. But they will no longer be my first choice. Just another fast food joint now thanks to Dan.

They took a knee. They played an angle. They played up their “ideals”. Then they walked away from who made them successful for money and growth. The side they are wanting to appease won’t be happy until they fly rainbow flags. They will be open on Sunday’s within 18 months.

Get woke, go broke.


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So, are you guys going to boycott CFA now? Pretty soon you won't have anywhere to eat or shop.
If everyone dug into every company's records they'd probably find a lot they didnt like.
Or, maybe, we just buy a sandwich, enjoy it and move on. They arent openly banning guns. They arent banning Christians or folks on the right etc etc.
Just enjoy the food.
 
Talk about a poorly worded headline.

I thought the story was going to tell me that Hillary is CFA’s Foundation Director, and she is funneling chicken money to Obama! :confused::eek:
Yellow journalism at it's worst lol
 
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Eh. I'm torn-ish. I never eat there anyway, 'cos they're always slammed. I like the food, but I don't do crowds & crazy long queues, no matter how efficient their service may be. Also doesn't fill me up. I can't finish a sandwich & fries most places & the same at CFA leaves me feeling still hungry.

Used to like their stated ideals, now I'm not so sure. Just means they're even less likely than before to get any of my money.
 
Their food isn’t all that so I am rarely if ever there anyway. Only if bringing a kid. Pretty sure they wouldn’t notice my boycott. But they will get hurt. People don’t like phonies or weaklings.
 
But wasnt it Dan who also started the No Sunday thing or the anti-gay marriage thing?

Dan is Truett Cathy's son. Truett died in 2014. The donations in question really got cranking after his death. It looks like Dan is trying to distance himself from the customers that Truett worked to gain. And IMO, he is doing it thinking he will "get back in the good graces" of folks that have been trying to take down or slow down CFA. I'm not sure he understands, or maybe he does, there is no middle ground with these folks. Unless CFA is flying rainbow flags and catering pride parades it will never be enough. They have forgotten who brought them to this dance.

I've lived this game before. Worked for a company that grew to an enormous powerhouse in the furniture industry under the owner/operator. He had strong convictions, wanted the company run as a family, paid the employees very well, you worked one Sat a month, off on Sunday. Then he stepped back and let someone else take over and he stayed on mostly as a figure head. New CEO ran it strictly as a business. Over expanded. Struck bad deals. Spent too much money. Cut pay. Went to 7 days a week delivery. Got caught over extended financially during the recession and went BK. The changing of corporate leadership can make or break a company.
 
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Dan is Truett Cathy's son. Truett died in 2014. The donations in question really got cranking after his death. It looks like Dan is trying to distance himself from the customers that Truett worked to gain. And IMO, he is doing it thinking he will "get back in the good graces" of folks that have been trying to take down or slow down CFA. I'm not sure he understands, or maybe he does, there is no middle ground with these folks. Unless CFA is flying rainbow flags and catering pride parades it will never be enough. They have forgotten who brought them to this dance.

I've lived this game before. Worked for a company that grew to an enormous powerhouse in the furniture industry under the owner/operator. He had strong convictions, wanted the company run as a family, paid the employees very well, you worked one Sat a month, off on Sunday. Then he stepped back and let someone else take over and he stayed on mostly as a figure head. New CEO ran it strictly as a business. Over expanded. Struck bad deals. Spent too much money. Cut pay. Went to 7 days a week delivery. Got caught over extended financially during the recession and went BK. The changing of corporate leadership can make or break a company.


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Dan is Truett Cathy's son. Truett died in 2014. The donations in question really got cranking after his death. It looks like Dan is trying to distance himself from the customers that Truett worked to gain. And IMO, he is doing it thinking he will "get back in the good graces" of folks that have been trying to take down or slow down CFA. I'm not sure he understands, or maybe he does, there is no middle ground with these folks. Unless CFA is flying rainbow flags and catering pride parades it will never be enough. They have forgotten who brought them to this dance.
I think this is where you and I arent seeing eye to eye:

I wasnt sold on CFA because of who they supported or didnt support. I was sold on CFA because they sell a good chicken sandwich and waffle fries at Is a reasonable price.

Did you go to CFA because they were a right-leaning, Christian company, or was it because of their product?
 
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I think this is where you and I arent seeing eye to eye:

I wasnt sold on CFA because of who they supported or didnt support. I was sold on CFA because they sell a good chicken sandwich and waffle fries at Is a reasonable price.

Did you go to CFA because they were a right-leaning, Christian company, or was it because of their product?

Both. But their stance certainly was part of the equation. IMO, they were the go to fast food spot because of that reputation for me. Now, they are just another fast food joint. Using your customer base to support your ideals then dumping those ideals is how you turn loyal customers into folks that may or may not patronize your business. So this may not play into your decision making. But it will play into others. And those others are the ones that stood with them when they were getting hammered for their ideals. A lot of people stood up and supported them and what they stood for. They just decided that was not important to them anymore.

And I'm not convinced this is the good business decision they think it is. I think they are under estimating the cancel culture. It might be a wash, but I don't see more folks choosing to go there now based on their new stance being a larger group than the folks they just upset by changing stances. And they brought this on themselves by trying to make a public spectacle of it by making a press announcement. In other words, it seems they have switched the sides they are trying to cater too. Not sure that's how cancel culture works. And that is what they are up against.
 
What are the extremist actions of the SPLC that we should take offense at?

I mean... other than mishandling donor’s contributions.... seems like any so-called do-gooder organization gets around to that, once they have some money in the bank.

They like to call groups they don't agree with bigots and use the same bully style tactics toward them they claim are offensive. Mostly hard left positions too.
 
What are the extremist actions of the SPLC that we should take offense at?

I mean... other than mishandling donor’s contributions.... seems like any so-called do-gooder organization gets around to that, once they have some money in the bank.

In recent years, the liberal SPLC has attacked many mainstream conservative organizations, including the Family Research Council, as “hate groups.”

Floyd Corkins, convicted of a 2012 attempt to massacre employees at the Family Research Council, told investigators he was inspired by SPLC’s description of the Christian, pro-family research organization as a hate group. Corkins carried Chick-fil-A sandwiches with him, police said.
 
Name an organization or business out there that doesn't do one single thing you disagree with.

If you can, likely you simply haven't looked deeply enough.

You can't even name a PERSON you agree with 100% of the time on everything.

I'll eat my chicken sammich from Chic-fil-A and make my own donations.
 
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I wasnt sold on CFA because of who they supported or didnt support. I was sold on CFA because they sell a good chicken sandwich and waffle fries at Is a reasonable price.

Did you go to CFA because they were a right-leaning, Christian company, or was it because of their product?
At work, CFA used to have a store in one of the food courts and I would go there because I could get some decent chicken at a reasonable price and had options that weren’t full of bread and carbohydrates.

Back when I was younger I noticed the mall stores were closed on Sundays. They put up a sign with a board about how it is how it used to be and they felt it still should. There may have been a statement about being a day to spend with family or worship but it wasn’t overtly or excessively religious. Growing up, just about everything except maybe a corner gas station or convenience store (locally called Convenient) was closed on Sunday. It’s just how it was. Sunday’s were spent with family doing some sort of work, usually involving homesteading. We weren’t and still aren’t a religious family, we don’t go to church, etc, but I still agree with the idea that things should stop, shut down and close on Sunday.

I still think it’s stupid to bring your politics and or religion into your business. You will only lose customers by doing so. I don’t want your religion, your politics, or your lifestyle views pushed in my face regardless of what they are or whether or not I agree with them.
 
I still think it’s stupid to bring your politics and or religion into your business. You will only lose customers by doing so. I don’t want your religion, your politics, or your lifestyle views pushed in my face regardless of what they are or whether or not I agree with them.

Truett Cathy built a chicken empire with his personal ethics and religion interwoven into it, albeit not in your face. CFA’s entire corporate ethos came out of his personal beliefs and they prospered. It came to the forefront when groups made a big stink boycotting CFA over corporate decisions that were quietly made. The backlash to those boycotts gained CFA far more customers than they “lost.”

Anywho, the only “in your face” came from those wanting to tear CFA down, which seems to be the norm in cases like this. Now, we get to see if CFA will benefit or be harmed by their backing down.
 
I still think it’s stupid to bring your politics and or religion into your business. You will only lose customers by doing so. I don’t want your religion, your politics, or your lifestyle views pushed in my face regardless of what they are or whether or not I agree with them.

I agree with you here
Hell, growing up in music scene, I would tire of hearing bands preach even about things I believed/believed in.
I get it.
Entertain me, that's what I paid for.
In this case - I just want tasty food.

As for this case - they arent going out and broadcasting that they are giving donations to these groups
They took a conservative stance a few years ago about gay marriage. Folks lined up for their sandwiches then, and, at that time, I said it was foolish to do so. Just go because you like it, not some stance they take on something that doesnt even affect you.
Or, in this case, keep on going because of the delicious food, not because they gave some money to a group you dont agree with.
 
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I agree with you here
Hell, growing up in music scene, I would tire of hearing bands preach even about things I believed/believed in.
I get it.
Entertain me, that's what I paid for.
In this case - I just want tasty food.

As for this case - they arent going out and broadcasting that they are giving donations to these groups
They took a conservative stance a few years ago about gay marriage. Folks lined up for their sandwiches then, and, at that time, I said it was foolish to do so. Just go because you like it, not some stance they take on something that doesnt even affect you.
Or, in this case, keep on going because of the delicious food, not because they gave some money to a group you dont agree with.

a business exists in a moral atmosphere. It is idiocy to deny it. You are celebrating (in a capitalist enterprise), unregulated choice to buy my stuff rather than the guy down the street, freedom to choose how and when and where my products will be offered, and at what price, unrestrained expenditure of capital on this item vs that item, the sovereignty of the consumer to put me in business and keep me in business. and the liberty of a gazillion little people who all make up the supply chains which provide my products and the money the guy buying them gets to spend. ALL these things rest on a network and collage of BELIEFS which ultimately are moral and thus "religious" in some sense (no one has ever come up yet with anything remotely resembling a coherent irreligious moral system, and I defy you to find it... yes I have read the pile of slop Ayn Rand wrote and will be happy to dissect and ridicule that incoherent pile of nonsense with you if you like).

Simply stated, there is no such thing as a commercial apartheid, where the laws of business exist APART from the substrate they grow from. It is the same way with science. It is no accident that modern science did NOT arise in the East, or the Middle East, but only in an intellectual atmosphere in which the ideas of rationality, order, predictability of events, uniformity of matter and others were predicated on a philosophical root of GOD who is constant, and created man to be able to count on the observations he makes as reliable. Modern post rational westerners sneer at this, but it is only because they are so immersed in the benefits of this that it is inconceivable to them that entire cultures can and did exist with the presupposition of irrationality, unpredictability, disorder and chaos. This kills science, just as the ideas of materialism and quantum uncertainty will ultimately kill science in the West, unless we return to the true basis for science itself.

THEREFORE, it is certainly reasonable (and frankly, to be expected) that people would use their businesses, or art, to be a "platform" for fundamental views. It is nonsense to expect otherwise, and frankly rests on a fairy tale wish fulfillment that we could build these areas on a "secular" basis. That "secular" basis is stupidly ignoring the fact that it rests on universal knowledge principles that secularism could NEVER produce. It is very much a case of the scorpion stinging the frog to death while crossing the stream. The frog is stupid for being naive about the nature of the scorpion, and the scorpion is so blinded by hate for the frog that it does not realize (or care??) that this will bring his own death.

I dont' fault Chik fil A for "bringing religion into business"... as though business can exist independently of a religious base. ALL world views are religious. Some are just naive about the religious basis of what they are proclaiming.

As far as the SPLC goes, this is (imo) just a lazy play to the keepers of the culture... like "see... we aren't racist!" I cannot believe this is more than a lazy uninformed crass attempt to buy off the hate driven preeners without doing much research into who they are writing checks to.
Christians and conservatives should say "yes, this is a bad move, and in fact a move which destroys what you say you believe. You should stop it, issue an apology, and find worthy recipients of they money." It is not like we (the most strident critics) have never made colossal blunders in judgment ourselves. It happens. It is what "repentance" is all about. FIDO (forget it, drive on)
 
Christians and conservatives should say "yes, this is a bad move, and in fact a move which destroys what you say you believe. You should stop it, issue an apology, and find worthy recipients of they money." It is not like we (the most strident critics) have never made colossal blunders in judgment ourselves. It happens. It is what "repentance" is all about. FIDO (forget it, drive on)

It's looking like it's a lot larger than SPLC though. I could see the SPLC being an uninformed decision by someone. If the Covenant House issue is legit, and they dropped Salvation Army for them, that's a big problem. And the organization they have been reported to have hired to work on getting them growing in Canada is another one. SPLC could have been a mistake. CH, not so much. If the Canada thing is legit, they choose a company that stands in contrast to what they have just to kowtow to certain groups in an attempt to grow their brand.

It's looking like they have chosen money over ideals. And there is a good chance the entire organization will suffer for that. Lots of folks, including some family of mine, have chosen CFA as a career because of those ideals and corporate culture. I've seen the switch from a company that focused on ideals and the employees to one that focused on money. And I've watched it drive a good company into the ground. CFA will never be McDonalds. But that's why a lot of folks like them, they are not McDonalds. And a large part of that is the corporate culture that trickles all the way down to the cashier. Worst case scenario, that culture shifts from the top down. Making them even more, just another fast food joint.
 
There's "in your face", and then there's "look at THIS".

When a business is out there actively promoting this or that political agenda, I don't want to hear it.

I want a sammich without all the brouhaha, please.

When a business is out there making sammiches without all the brouhaha, I don't want to hear all the other people throwing out all the stuff they had to dig up on them.

I want a sammich without all YOUR brouhaha.

Despite all the BS we see and hear from the far Left and the fart Right, what we're having pushed on us doesn't represent the vast majority of the population.

You know what the vast majority of the population wants?

They want their d*mn sammich without all the brouhaha, that's what they want.

This is a tactic that's been around since time immemorial. Get loud and get in the face of people to intimidate them into going going with whatever THEY are screaming about.

The average person does not give a cr*p about someone else's sexual preference. They are more concerned with whether that person is a decent human being.

The average person is not an extremist in most things, in fact. They are really more concerned about things like raising their families, putting food on the table, going to work, spending time on their hobbies, getting together with friends and family.

In fact, the "decent human being" and living their lives in peace part pretty much sums it up.

Want a CFA sammich? Get one!

Want a Starbucks? Get one!

Or have ulcers about all the other brouhaha. Your heath, I say.
 
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Chick-fil-A Has a Change of Heart

Late last year Chick-fil-A ruffled feathers across the fruited plain when they announced they would no longer provide charitable donations to the Fellowship of Christian Athletes and Salvation Army.

Both organizations had faced years of withering attacks from sex and gender revolutionaries who were angered because the two renowned Christian ministries affirmed the biblical definition of marriage.

So when Chick-fil-A made their decision public, many Christians accused the company of backing down to a bunch of militant LGBTQ bullies. And in response many of Chick-fil-A's staunchest supporters flew the coop.

“I now regret that I did it and that I invited your participation,” Gov. Mike Huckabee wrote in a letter to supporters. I wonder how long before they go ahead and open on Sundays? Might as well. Or just change their name to ‘Ichabod Chicken Sandwiches.'”

American Family Association, one of the nation's top Christian ministries, launched a petition drive that generated more than 116,000 signatures. They wanted clarification on the company's giving habits.

"In my personal letter to Mr. Cathy, I asked him two questions: (1) Will Chick-fil-A publicly state that it does not believe the Salvation Army and FCA are hate groups because of the ministries' beliefs about sexuality, marriage, and family? (2) Will you publicly state that Chick-fil-A will not hesitate to fund these two ministries again, should the opportunity arise in the future," Wildmon said.

And the other day -- American Family Association president Tim Wildmon received a response -- from Chick-fil-A chairman and CEO Dan Cathy.

"We inadvertently discredited several outstanding organizations that have effectively served communities for years," Mr. Cathy wrote in his correspondence. Click here to read the entire letter.

Wildmon said he welcomed the clarification.

"It appears that Mr. Cathy understands how many evangelicals perceived the company's decision, as he stated that these Christian groups were 'inadvertently discredited.' The fact that Dan Cathy called these two Christian groups "outstanding organizations" will mean a lot to evangelicals," Wildmon said.

However, American Family Association said they plan on keeping an eye on Chick-fil-A -- especially since the company chose to stop sending money to the Salvation Army and instead funded Covenant House, a pro-LGBT organization.

"Most of the Christians I know love Chick-fil-A and want to trust the company to uphold scriptural principles. We have all been huge fans of Chick-fil-A, and want that to continue," Wildmon said.

American Family Association deserves a round of applause for standing up and asking the tough questions when others did not. In doing so, they convinced one of the nation's largest fast food restaurants to do the right thing.

And Mr. Cathy deserves a round of thanks for listening to the people who made them one of the most popular restaurant chains in the nation.

A lot of folks took their original decision personally - leaving many people of faith feeling angry, bewildered and betrayed.

The reason we took it so personally is that we never thought of ourselves as Chick-fil-A customers, we thought of ourselves as family.




 
I had an opportunity to eat at CFA a few weeks ago. Dang, but do they make a tasty spicy chicken sandwich.

Still not likely to eat there often, but that's more due to my people/crowd issues than politics. I admire what they used to stand for & would hate to see that change.
 
I had an opportunity to eat at CFA a few weeks ago. Dang, but do they make a tasty spicy chicken sandwich.
...and they’re about to have spicy chicken tenders. ;)

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