Pistol mounted RMR

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I picked up a Trijicon RMR and mounted to an XD(m) OSP. Got it dialed in at the range with about ~15 shots, very happy with how it performed on a square range with a high contrast target and good lighting.

Then I took it to a match today. I couldn’t hit squat with it. I could barely see the steel targets through the little window, and just wasn’t making hits that I’d ordinarily make.

I was using the same “lower” that I’ve used in matches for ~6 years, I just swapped the slide assembly w RMR.

So, for y’all that shoot RMRs, how long did it take to get used to?
 
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Took me ~300-400 rounds before I caught up to my iron sight proficiency levels, which have now been exceeded for sure. First 100-200 was my muscle memory auto drilling the gun to the sight post height (outside of eye relief for my zero and arm length and all that jazz)...the next 200 learning my holds.

What I will say too, is that the handgun optic has made me a BETTER shooter, not a complacent lazy shooter because its 'easier' (its not). To be clear, by better shooter, I mean fundamentally, independent of the dot. Thats because the dot facilitated my optimizing grip pressure and elbow tension....Before the dot I thought I was doing everything right, and misses were simply errors in executing the orchestra perfectly, but it didn't take more than 5 rounds for me to realize how much my gun actually wobbled all over the place like a sniper rifle in a video game. This was NOT discernible (to me anyway) with big chunky blocks. Once I needed to start holding that little 3 MOA dot over a steel plate at 25+ yards it hit me hard. Trying to keep that dot still on 10-12 inch plates @ 50 yards will hone every muscle in your hands, angles of your elbow joints and neck...Its a training tool in and of itself.

LOVE IT.
 
About 2 15 minute dryfire sessions basically just doing draws. Freestyle, stronghand, weakhand. Don't look at the dot, look at the target, dot should show up wherever you look, if not, work your index it's not good enough. Good index, good recoil management, with target focus and window size is all but irrelevant.
 
Beef15 said:
About 2 15 minute dryfire sessions basically just doing draws. Freestyle, stronghand, weakhand. Don't look at the dot, look at the target, dot should show up wherever you look, if not, work your index it's not good enough. Good index, good recoil management, with target focus and window size is all but irrelevant.
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This right here. Focus on the target and practice bringing the gun up consistently. Safe dynamics has several videos on this. I took his RDS class in the spring and it was great.


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When I got my first RMR, I didn’t even live fire for a couple months, I dry fired the hell out of it in my house and by the time I took it to the range, picking up the dot came very easily. As mentioned above, just bring the gun up and focus on the target, if you do everything right, the dot will be there. Also try this when your practicing. If you bring the gun up and don’t see the dot, don’t move the gun, move your head around till you see it and more often than not the dot will be where you wanted it
 
Derek8404 said:
When I got my first RMR, I didn’t even live fire for a couple months, I dry fired the hell out of it in my house and by the time I took it to the range, picking up the dot came very easily. As mentioned above, just bring the gun up and focus on the target, if you do everything right, the dot will be there. Also try this when your practicing. If you bring the gun up and don’t see the dot, don’t move the gun, move your head around till you see it and more often than not the dot will be where you wanted it
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Finding the dot wasn't an issue. Finding the target on the other side of the dot was. I just need to work with it
 
I’ve had an RMR on a blinged G19 for several years now. The initial learning curve was a bit steep however it does get easy. You have suppressor height sights? Present the front sight on target and the dot is there. Lots of draws and dry fire and you will figure out where it’s off.

I don’t shoot matches but do like to shoot when I can. Even without regular practice the RMR doesn’t slow me down and may be a bit faster. It does make longer distance shots easier.
 
When I shoot regularly I’m more accurate. If I let it slide a week or so, I can feel the difference. It’s just like any other gun, all it takes is practice.
 
At some point I will get one... I haven't had enough interaction with one to get used to them though.

Really waiting for one small enough for my Glock 43...
 
S&W has an RMR on their new 4” Shield from their Performance Center. Wish I knew whose optic it is.
 
bigfelipe said:
If only they would make Shield RMSc's with glass lenses...
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while it won’t have glass lenses, there is a new RMS coming out called the RMSw, it’s supposed to be a waterproof design and more durable that the current models.
 
Love2shoot said:
Hopefully Sage gets his hands on it fast to test.... he does a great job of RMS testing imo
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Yeah I’m sure that he will, he’s usually on top of reviewing any new optic that comes out. I’m hoping that I performs better than the current shields because they are currently about the only thing that will fit in a glock 43 size pistol but I don’t consider them reliable enough for carry.
 
Derek8404 said:
Yeah I’m sure that he will, he’s usually on top of reviewing any new optic that comes out. I’m hoping that I performs better than the current shields because they are currently about the only thing that will fit in a glock 43 size pistol but I don’t consider them reliable enough for carry.
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In Shield's marketing, they emphasize use of their red dot by the British military. Really??

I have a JPoint, which is made by Shield, I think. So far it is acceptable, used on a CZ P10 (3 months), no drop tests by me yet! I did have to put in a shim plate to get the dot zeroed.
 
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Derek8404 said:
while it won’t have glass lenses, there is a new RMS coming out called the RMSw, it’s supposed to be a waterproof design and more durable that the current models.
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The biggest complaint I have heard is they scratch if you look at it wrong... That's a lot of cheddar for cheap sunglasses...
 
Burris Fast Fire on G34. Very hard for me to p/u dot but I remember same learning curve with C-more on my old Caspian 38 Super.
 
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