As militia formed by police, veterans in Virginia explodes, so are others across America

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Virginia – While Virginia is turning into a whole different kind of “battleground state”, we’re receiving messages from people in Washington, Oregon, Arizona, New Mexico, and California saying their own militias are exploding in numbers.

And at the same time, lawmakers are looking into what they can do to stop it… and they’re starting to receive media backing.

Last week, Slate released an article called “How to neutralize a militia”, where they argued that nearly every state “has the legal tools to crack down on paramilitaries” and asking “why don’t they use them?”

The article starts off by seemingly trying to pass off the militias as being nothing but a bunch of crazy people:

“Not so long ago, it was possible to laugh off the American militia movement as a bunch of old white guys and gun nuts playing army in the woods or freaking out about black helicopters.


https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com...rginia-explodes-so-are-others-across-america/


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CFF bus trip?

Ill serve as the militia equivalent of a CIA spook—I am the master at coercing liberals. Sorry, at “handling wussy hippie assets”.

“You listen to me you female dog...sorry, non-binary pan sexual dogs legal guardian! Do you want this mother edging quinoa salad? Oh you do do you? With the extra butternut squash do ya? Then you get your hippie a$$ down to town hall and bring me back some actionable intel!!!!”
 
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I loved this quote...

“I always thought these militia folks were nuts,” wrote one man to LET. “As a retired law enforcement officer, I saw them as running against law enforcement. Now I realize that they are often made up of LE and we need to bridge that divide. The nation is turning upside down. That’s why I joined in Oregon.”

:D

Who needs the Oathkeepers organization. We're seeing it unfold dynamically in real time. But, through past connections with the organization, I know how plenty of active duty personnel are going to side.

Might soon have to put down the popcorn...
 
And at the same time, lawmakers are looking into what they can do to stop it…
Um, no. It’s the “law makers” that are going to get stopped. And hopefully hauled out of office and hung from scaffolding on the capitol steps.
 
There has been some chatter that the VA lefty governor has been asking staff if there is a way to shut down all means of communication in areas the national guard is executing confiscation operations.
Don't expect the MSM to cover this at all. They fully support elimination of other people's rights as if they would never be targeted.


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Don't expect the MSM to cover this at all.
The media is only part of their objective. What they’re afraid of and what they’re trying to prevent is people spontaneously rising up and stopping them by force. They’re assuming that it will happen via people using the corporate internet tools like happened in NY. You saw the real time information war that transpired with the PTBs trying to shut down the feed or misdirect the responders to the cemetery. Learn the lesson and when you’re facing a buffalo jump, be the Indian not the buffalo. Get your alternate means of communication in place now and that means something other than a cell phone.
 
There has been some chatter that the VA lefty governor has been asking staff if there is a way to shut down all means of communication in areas the national guard is executing confiscation operations.

Gov't knows how to readily disable utilities in a very timing fashion, period.

The "Overlords" are getting ready to Declare War on the Citizens of Virginia.

For the Left marching forward, & IDK if it will be "Alright."

 
The media is only part of their objective. What they’re afraid of and what they’re trying to prevent is people spontaneously rising up and stopping them by force. They’re assuming that it will happen via people using the corporate internet tools like happened in NY. You saw the real time information war that transpired with the PTBs trying to shut down the feed or misdirect the responders to the cemetery. Learn the lesson and when you’re facing a buffalo jump, be the Indian not the buffalo. Get your alternate means of communication in place now and that means something other than a cell phone.
Obama tried to have a White House Off Switch created to kill the internet with one click across the country.
You can bet Cuomo and other Big Gov governors are trying to find a way to create state level firewalls like China's.
Before streaming and satellite competition, Democrat controlled towns tried to block FNC for the local cable networks.


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Obama tried to have a White House Off Switch created to kill the internet with one click across the country.
You can bet Cuomo and other Big Gov governors are trying to find a way to create state level firewalls like China's.
Before streaming and satellite competition, Democrat controlled towns tried to block FNC for the local cable networks.


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Cutting off utilities is "Super Easy",
Internet = disable Hub~s or drop telephone poles

Electric, disable sub stations

Etc. etc,

It's not rocket science
 
There has been some chatter that the VA lefty governor has been asking staff if there is a way to shut down all means of communication in areas the national guard is executing confiscation operations.
Don't expect the MSM to cover this at all. They fully support elimination of other people's rights as if they would never be targeted.


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That's another level of escalation right there. Not NG to defend against activist protesters, but to do the actual confiscations?? With blackouts?? That would be putting the match to the powder keg.
They think the resistance will be reactive. They can't conceive that it will motivate some to be active and bring the fight to them. Not that I'm advocating that.
:rolleyes:
 
A good friend and customer of mine and I were talking yesterday. He said at least half of his employees gave warning that if something kicked off in VA they would be leaving to join the fight. He said he told them their jobs would be waiting for them if they came back.
 
A good friend and customer of mine and I were talking yesterday. He said at least half of his employees gave warning that if something kicked off in VA they would be leaving to join the fight. He said he told them their jobs would be waiting for them if they came back.

Stand up guy right there.
 
A good friend and customer of mine and I were talking yesterday. He said at least half of his employees gave warning that if something kicked off in VA they would be leaving to join the fight. He said he told them their jobs would be waiting for them if they came back.
I don't know if many noticed that. Reminds of the story in the video of the founding of America, where the father is walking out the door of his home, gun in hand and says to his wife, Take good care of the children. Knowning full well, he may not return.

ETA - So, it occurs to me, the left can't conceive of this, dying to keep your guns? That's irrational and crazy, But, it's never been about guns. It's about freedom. It's always been about freedom.
 
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What they don't fully grasp is it isn't "dying to keep my guns". It is a line between being a free man and being a subject. I choose to take part in this society, to obey its rules and its laws. I retain my natural right to preserve my life and the life of my family in the best way I know how. Disarming a man and forcing him to rely on the government to keep him and his people safe turns one into a subject.

What the left is saying is that you need to now fully outsource your safety to the government and police (whom they often protest for being oppressive and violent). If we all do this then we will all be safer. Except for the deafening cries of the 100million people in the 20th century who trusted their safety to a government that had sworn to protect them.
 
We need to be realistic here folks. Aint no mass revolt happening over guns. A single-issue such as firearms will only be enough to get the group(s) labeled with the Big T. To reach critical mass, which I believe is 3-5% of population (I'm not an expert--if any historians, anthropologists, sociologists or other relevant expert among us, please inform if numbers or theory a bit off), something far more reaching and deeply impact to the broader population will be necessary. One thing that can trigger it, has has historically emboldened the population in modern times, is militarization of the situation and censorship of the internet. So if Governor goes that route over a police force that has said its peace on behalf of citizenry, THEN the rest (remaining 2-4%) may very well follow.

Cut off guns. most don't care. cut off facebook? Every soccer mom and purple-haired teenager from here to San Diego will be setting buildings on fire. They need to disrupt the essentials (as perceived by all)---internet, food, water, etc.
 
Cut off guns. most don't care. cut off facebook? Every soccer mom and purple-haired teenager from here to San Diego will be setting buildings on fire. They need to disrupt the essentials (as perceived by all)---internet, food, water, etc.
The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive ;) The militias that are forming could very well take out a few bridges, roads, transformers, and cell towers around cities like Richmond and DC which will cut off the Internet and Farcebook.
 
The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive ;) The militias that are forming could very well take out a few bridges, roads, transformers, and cell towers around cities like Richmond and DC which will cut off the Internet and Farcebook.
Or tyrant Northam could be planning to cut of power or internet to try to confiscate the guns.
 
The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive ;) The militias that are forming could very well take out a few bridges, roads, transformers, and cell towers around cities like Richmond and DC which will cut off the Internet and Farcebook.

Then the population would turn against the militia. and the population is what the militia is standing for, which means that action would be counterproductive toward the larger strategy. That would be consistent with, and reported [accurately for once] as a strategy consistent with provoking lethal escalation by the state. Disrupting and targeting civilian activity for the purpose of achieving that political outcome makes it clear cut Big T. Population sides with state and is ever more afraid of guns and gun owners alike, and everything goes downhill. That would not be a good start toward an integrated and cohesive effort to disallow the extremist political leanings of a governor from gaining legislative traction.
 
...They think the resistance will be reactive. They can't conceive that it will motivate some to be active and bring the fight to them. Not that I'm advocating that.
:rolleyes:

I'm always careful in my responses in these types of threads, 'cos tin foil hat, but there a lot of veterans that would like nothing more than receiving the call that it's time to go break shit & no small number of them with experience in asymmetrical/unconventional warfare.
 
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LEO'S that could be a part of making or being part of a Militia should not be a surprise. Mainly started during the Odummer era where LEO'S are sacrificed during any racial encounter whether the LEO was in the right or not has in a major way has made this issue for the leftists. Now the LEO'S will be put in extreme danger by leftists leaders who are ignoring the Constitution.

Just my opinion
 
There has been some chatter that the VA lefty governor has been asking staff if there is a way to shut down all means of communication in areas the national guard is executing confiscation operations.
Don't expect the MSM to cover this at all. They fully support elimination of other people's rights as if they would never be targeted.


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Meh. There would be no actual way to defend that approach. The economic impact alone of taking a town off grid for even a few hours would be huge, and they wouldn't be able to keep it off long enough to achieve any measurable goal since as soon as the services were turned back on it would be all over everywhere.

Logistics is the name of the game. And this method just doesn't fit. And honestly neither does activating the net guard. At best for that to work you would need the guard from some super leftist places like NYC, or Maryland to do the raids. Risk of the local boys refusing to effectively turn on their neighbors is too high
 
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It ain’t just about “guns”...goes a hell of a lot deeper than that.

I get it. freedom, tree of liberty, inalienable rights, yada yada...This is the choir membership on that front. But out there its reality, not a philosophy class at UNC or a Constitutional law class at Duke. Perception IS REALITY. 95 out of 100 people are going to perceive the situation as a 'gun' issue. The 2nd amendment community is already energized, great. But in needs to go 'deeper' across a broader spectrum of issues impacting daily life of the average person before it would cross that boundary. whatever 'that' is.
 
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I get it. freedom, tree of liberty, inalienable rights, yada yada...This is the choir membership on that front. But out there its reality, not a philosophy class at UNC or a Constitutional law class at Duke. Perception IS REALITY. 95 out of 100 people are going to perceive the situation as a 'gun' issue. The 2nd amendment community is already energized, great. But in needs to go 'deeper' across a broader spectrum of issues impacting daily life of the average person before it would cross that boundary. whatever 'that' is.
You mean like a partisan majority of 1 house of Congress falsely accusing the highest elected official of "abuse of power" in an attempted polictical coup?
 
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You mean like a partisan majority of 1 house of Congress falsely accusing the highest elected official of "abuse of power" in an attempted polictical coup?

possibly. But I think the average American citizen today is also not astute nor independently critical enough to see through smoke mirrors on their own. They rely on facebook and liberal media, which tells them a very different story. Also, to my knowledge, that's not directly/publicly part of the discourse eliciting the movement in VA that is now fanning out across the country. I am admittedly not following this current event at high resolution, but from what I've read, including this threads article, the narrative has centered around 2A.

I will also reiterate again that I am in camp-2a here. I am in no way implying this doesn't have to do with 'rights' 'freedoms' and deeper issues for which the 2A, nor that there doesnt exist a mountain of other liberal BS. I am just saying, if your day dreaming about going head-to-head with the strong arm of left-wing political cronies, it is UNLIKELY to happen over gun confiscations. Susie Muffintop could give a eff less about whether you or I keep our 'weapons of mass murder' (which is how she is conditioned to perceive them).

This is also a enormously complex topic, for which PhDs could (and are) earned through years of dissertation research, to address ELEMENTS of the phenomenon. So its certainly isn't going to be squared away here on an Internet forum in few hundred words of back and forth comments. It is however, a fantastic topic to have over drinks and would happily debate with some bourbons if you are in RTP area.
 
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Then the population would turn against the militia. and the population is what the militia is standing for, which means that action would be counterproductive toward the larger strategy.
What is this "The Population" of which you speak? The majority of the urban population are already against us and against the militia types. Cutting them off, cutting of their electricity, their communications, and hampering their transportation ability will bring the cities to a halt and kick off riots within about three days and exhaust the govt. resources very quickly.
 
What is this "The Population" of which you speak? The majority of the urban population are already against us and against the militia types. Cutting them off, cutting of their electricity, their communications, and hampering their transportation ability will bring the cities to a halt and kick off riots within about three days and exhaust the govt. resources very quickly.
Bingo. Look at hurricane Sandy...most of those city dwellers holed up and didnt leave the house for 2 weeks and were bitchjng and complaining.

Now look at San Juan after that hurricane. Expect something in between the first week of total darkness
 
possibly. But I think the average American citizen today is also not astute nor independently critical enough to see through smoke mirrors on their own. They rely on facebook and liberal media, which tells them a very different story. Also, to my knowledge, that's not directly/publicly part of the discourse eliciting the movement in VA that is now fanning out across the country. I am admittedly not following this current event at high resolution, but from what I've read, including this threads article, the narrative has centered around 2A.

The narrative centers around the RTKBA, but the dissatisfaction, restlessness and “pushback” you’re witnessing is an aggregation...a “boiling point”, if you will, that has been coming for years, due to “a long train of abuses and usurpations”.

Anyone who has been paying attention at all for the last few decades, especially the last two, can clearly see the end game. Some folks have been awake for a while and with each day, more are becoming aware.

The situation in the Old Dominion, as well as a good portion of the rest of the Republic, does center around the RTKBA; primarily due to the right being under direct attack, but folks also understand without that right, the others will fall in short order. Both sides are acutely aware of this, which is why you see one side so willing to relentlessly attack the RTKBA (for the ultimate goal of totalitarianism) and the other side so fervent in retaining it (goal of remaining free citizens, by force, if necessary).
 
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Reminds of the story in the video of the founding of America, where the father is walking out the door of his home, gun in hand and says to his wife, Take good care of the children. Knowning full well, he may not return.

ETA - So, it occurs to me, the left can't conceive of this, dying to keep your guns? That's irrational and crazy, But, it's never been about guns. It's about freedom. It's always been about freedom.

He didn’t return, at least alive. When the alarm reached Acton, Massachusetts late in the evening of April 18th, 1775 - Isaac Davis and his wife Hannah were caring for their 4 young children, who were sick with a form of scarlett fever that had a 50% mortality rate. In a time where bleeding and leeches were considered medicine, the only treatment as you watched your children suffer was a cold rag for their heads and prayer. If any man that night had more important places to be, a legitimate excuse for NOT mustering with his men, it was he.

But Isaac Davis was the Captain of the Acton Militia, easily the best trained, most well equipped company of Militia in British North America. His men had cartridge boxes, bayonets. They drilled and practiced marksmanship twice a week, every week. Isaac Davis would join his men in the field, and it’s in Hannah’s diary that his only words that night were “Take good care of the children.”

As the militia formed on Punkatasset Hill just outside of Concord, smoke began to rise from the meeting house. From a half a mile away, men were certain that British Regulars were burning down their town, and decided to march.

“I haven’t a man who is afraid to go,” were the words of Captain Davis, and the Men of Acton led Massachusetts Militia down the hill towards the old North Bridge that crossed the Concord River, leading from the town to Barrett's farm.

The British held the bridge (several companies were at Barrett’s place looking for supplies and munitions), and upon the approach of the Militia, fired one volley into the creek as a warning. The next volley flew high, save for 2 shots. The first hit Isaac Davis directly in the heart, and the man - husband to a worried wife and father of 4 terribly sick children - was dead before his body hit the ground. The second ball killed his lieutenant, Abner Hosmer, a man described by peers as a soul no one would refuse to follow through the Gates of Hell.

Major Buttrick, in nominal command of the men of Massachusetts at the time cried out “Fire! For God’s sake fire! Fire as fast as you can!”

The Militia leveled their muskets, and in the first volley, killed 40% of the British officers on the Bridge, 6 NCOs, and a private. They reloaded and continued volley after volley until the Regulars fled, in a panic, back to Concord. The Militia crossed the bridge and had effectively cut off the British companies further afield at Barrett’s farm from the main British column.

Upon their return, they found the only British soldiers on the bridge were dead, and Militia between them and the rest of their column. The Militia let them cross, unmolested, to return to Concord. However, the orders to “not fire unless fired upon” would quickly give way on the British retreat from Concord, and the Revolutionary War would begin its eight year, 100,000+ casualty (25,000 on each side due to combat, 3 times or more to disease) march to secure for us a land to call our own and a government of defined, limited power where sovereignty lay with the People, and their Rights were the primary concern over all others.

Consequential decisions. Terribly consequential decisions.

And yet Isaac Davis chose to defend Liberty.

That is the price of Freedom, gents.

How far we have strayed.
 
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I will also reiterate again that I am in camp-2a here. I am in no way implying this doesn't have to do with 'rights' 'freedoms' and deeper issues for which the 2A, nor that there doesnt exist a mountain of other liberal BS. I am just saying, if your day dreaming about going head-to-head with the strong arm of left-wing political cronies, it is UNLIKELY to happen over gun confiscations. Susie Muffintop could give a eff less about whether you or I keep our 'weapons of mass murder' (which is how she is conditioned to perceive them).
I disagree, because they are considering active confiscation by force at risk of death. You can fine them, you can put them in jail, but to threaten someone with death to forceably remove, not merely an "illegal" object, but something that represents freedom of choice, freedom to pursue life, LIBERTY and happiness is where the line gets crossed. For a government to force it's will upon others by removing the very object that might allow the individual to resist that force is tragically ironic. The very act of forceable confiscation validates the need for the gun. The point being, this strikes to the heart of human survival and people will react.

This is also a enormously complex topic, for which PhDs could (and are) earned through years of dissertation research, to address ELEMENTS of the phenomenon. So its certainly isn't going to be squared away here on an Internet forum in few hundred words of back and forth comments. It is however, a fantastic topic to have over drinks and would happily debate with some bourbons if you are in RTP area.
At some point debate ends and action begins.
 
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To the OP and Law Enforcement Today, I would trust a Militia with active duty police within its ranks almost as much as I would a syphallitic crackwhore with an active herpes breakout and visible anal warts telling me her HIV test was negative so protection wasn’t necessary.

Institutionally, they will kill you or kidnap you and lock you in a cage over a plant because their masters said the peasantry can’t have it. I don’t see a sudden shift in their moral compass or a come-to-Jesus Saul on the road to Damascus moment simply because instead of a plant, their masters outlaw a piece of steel and hardwood.

But that’s just me.
 
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To the OP and Law Enforcement Today, I would trust a Militia with active duty police within its ranks almost as much as I would a syphallitic crackwhore with an active herpes breakout and visible anal warts telling me her HIV test was negative so protection wasn’t necessary.

Institutionally, the will kill you or kidnap you and lock you in a cage over a plant because their masters said the peasantry can’t have it. I don’t see a sudden shift in their moral compass or a come-to-Jesus Saul on the road to Damascus moment simply because instead of a plant, their masters outlaw a piece of steel and hardwood.

But that’s just me.

That's a very valid point.
 
That's a very valid point.

I do not like making it, despite what many here may believe. But the police have worn through the trust bracket, and have embedded provocateurs in every protest movement since the 60s. Given the article’s own distrust of “three percenters” (who are, in fact, former law enforcement and veterans, men and women, white, black, and in between) as some sort of extremist group of kooks, I find it difficult to see them miraculously thinking the Militia movement is for them.

It strikes me as a sudden realization that they are not big enough or equipped enough to stare down hundreds or thousands of armed people who have decided enough is enough, and trying to position themselves in a light that is anything other than the armed muscle of politicians who are desperately trying to get them killed.
 
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BEST thing that could happen would be for the USA to break up. I know I sound like a broken record here, but for a nation to truly be a NATION, it has to have common language, culture and common.... shall we say "metaphysical constructs." The USA has none of this, and therefore nothing will hold us together long. The longer we remain united, the bigger the % for tyranny from a centralized force.
One revolution was not enough.
 
BEST thing that could happen would be for the USA to break up. I know I sound like a broken record here, but for a nation to truly be a NATION, it has to have common language, culture and common.... shall we say "metaphysical constructs." The USA has none of this, and therefore nothing will hold us together long. The longer we remain united, the bigger the % for tyranny from a centralized force.
One revolution was not enough.
A mo better fix would be if the Feds were forced to stay within their playground. Those boundaries are clearly painted by the Constitution.
Then let the states manage their own affairs.
 
BEST thing that could happen would be for the USA to break up. I know I sound like a broken record here, but for a nation to truly be a NATION, it has to have common language, culture and common.... shall we say "metaphysical constructs." The USA has none of this, and therefore nothing will hold us together long. The longer we remain united, the bigger the % for tyranny from a centralized force.
One revolution was not enough.

Problem is, that won't work when half the country wants to force their will on the other half. Splitting apart and "live and let live" afterward isn't an option for the totalitarians.
 
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