United Nations "Force Intervention Brigade", Yes the UN has an offensive combat unit, I didn't Know

@YeeHaa sorry I was in a pissy mood yesterday. You seem to spend a fair bit of time rooting about in the muck of the far right, and mostly you seem to be a guy trying to make sense of things that make little sense at least to me. What you’re doing is clearly not for me, I’m pretty dismissive of most of that stuff, but you have come up with stuff that’s good for folks to think about even if only to better understand why things could or could not happen. Anyway, I’m doing a crap job of it but wanted to apologize dumping a turd in your thread.

Jim

WoW!

Apology Accepted

I'm coming Elizabeth!


 
One thing that's I think making assumptions is that u.s authorities that world cast a veto vote would be more pro American than pro UN.

Yes, under normal(?) circumstances.


We are not living in Normal Times , anymore, as the Left is making bolder decisions & the magnitude of their actions has escalated.

So, back to the VA situation, I believe Gov Black Face is taking direction ~ orders from Bloomberg and trying to find out where the "Push Back Line" is at with the "Citizens" of Virginia.
It would be of NO Surprise to me if the "Tards ~ Overlords" Mis-Calculate and started a Shooting Civil War, period.

So what does this have to do with Virginia?
Nothing,,, as of yet or maybe ever.

Going to "States Rights", IDK if any state can call on "Out Side" military assistance to operate within said borders.
Even if a state did have that right I do not believe Trump would put up with such a thing.
Which made me recall the recent change of order~s in calling Marines up for Active Duty for Civilian Law Enforcement purposes.
 
The VA thing definitely seems to be testing a lot of waters for their various temperatures. We’ve lulled ourselves into a process where verbal diarrhea gets passed and blessed as “law”. It is supposed to go through a process before passage to ensure that it isn’t already in code or a violation of existing code. It is therefore assumed to be valid and therefore enforceable until someone who, with immensely deep pockets (because in this country justice is about money not right and wrong) can demonstrate being harmed and challenge it in various rounds of the circus, er I mean kangaroo court.

It seems to me that the wannabe dictators are challenging this on several fronts. They’re passing crap, while declaring it constitutional that even a 5th grader whose read a few SCOTUS cases can tell you is a violation. They’re testing how far and what enforcement agencies will go along with it. They’re testing how compliant or resistant the people will be. They’re testing how much people believe the State can dictate its will to the localities.
 
The VA thing definitely seems to be testing a lot of waters for their various temperatures. We’ve lulled ourselves into a process where verbal diarrhea gets passed and blessed as “law”. It is supposed to go through a process before passage to ensure that it isn’t already in code or a violation of existing code. It is therefore assumed to be valid and therefore enforceable until someone who, with immensely deep pockets (because in this country justice is about money not right and wrong) can demonstrate being harmed and challenge it in various rounds of the circus, er I mean kangaroo court.

It seems to me that the wannabe dictators are challenging this on several fronts. They’re passing crap, while declaring it constitutional that even a 5th grader whose read a few SCOTUS cases can tell you is a violation. They’re testing how far and what enforcement agencies will go along with it. They’re testing how compliant or resistant the people will be. They’re testing how much people believe the State can dictate its will to the localities.

So True.

It is therefore assumed to be valid and therefore enforceable until someone who, with immensely deep pockets (because in this country justice is about money not right and wrong) can demonstrate being harmed and challenge it in various rounds of the circus, er I mean kangaroo court.
Yes, Much after the damage has been done, such as Dis-Arming ( in this case ) Citizens of Virginia.

This means every gun control Law(?) already passed is Unconstitutional and we ( as US Citizens ) have accepted (?) to abide by them.

Existence Of Law





I resubmit:

2A B2B: Prefatory Clause & Operative Clause (Simple As That)
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https://www.carolinafirearmsforum.c...clause-operative-clause-simple-as-that.48880/
 
I agree, however the left has proven time and again they don't care about the constitution.


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They don't, as they care about their agenda and spinning what ever narrative necessary to keep US Citizens in line and also to keep the "Lower Level Leftest Minions ~ Useful Idiots ( Antifa, etc) " in the Dark until it's really Too Late.
 
They don't, as they care about their agenda and spinning what ever narrative necessary to keep US Citizens in line and also to keep the "Lower Level Leftest Minions ~ Useful Idiots ( Antifa, etc) " in the Dark until it's really Too Late.
To be fair, I don’t think you’d argue that either political party, or the bureaucracy, acts differently. We aren’t picking between good and bad, we’re picking slightly different flavors of corruption. It’s like picking the strain of aids to get.
 
But this election is just too important...
Maybe not this election, but I was thinking of more umm... radical forms of not being restricted in choices. Door #3
 
To be fair, I don’t think you’d argue that either political party, or the bureaucracy, acts differently. We aren’t picking between good and bad, we’re picking slightly different flavors of corruption. It’s like picking the strain of aids to get.

As a whole both political parties need to be watched and I have consistently referred to both parties combined as the Uniparty with the current situation in Virginia being different because it is clearly the Dems pushing the gun law~s.

I might add that in my view, for political purposes, a conservative is one who finds and supports solutions keeping our constitution and "Bill OF Rights" in mind and a progressive doesn't keep or uphold the fundamentals of our "Bill Of Rights" or the constitution in mind.

A good or better example of Republicans would be, Freedom Caucus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Caucus

To your reference to bureaucracy ~ ies?

Bureaucracies are created, staffed, and funded, not elected.



So, in the end if a policy or law(?) flies in the face of the constitution or sound established law why would anyone continually settle to get AIDs?

I will say that the vast majority of both major parties acts as one, they just use different tailors.
 
To be fair, I don’t think you’d argue that either political party, or the bureaucracy, acts differently. We aren’t picking between good and bad, we’re picking slightly different flavors of corruption. It’s like picking the strain of aids to get.

I hear that sentiment a lot. But what rational human being can watch what has gone on in politics for any amount of time and compare the actions and policies of the Dems and R’s and say they are the same?

But I do agree there is corruption on both sides. And there is also a large dose of ineptitude as well. But as time goes by I really do wonder how much influence has been asserted by the dirty intelligence agencies and their agents throughout the government.
 
But what rational human being can watch what has gone on in politics for any amount of time and compare the actions and policies of the Dems and R’s and say they are the same?
Crap soup and crap sandwich, you’re still getting the same crap.
 
I hear that sentiment a lot. But what rational human being can watch what has gone on in politics for any amount of time and compare the actions and policies of the Dems and R’s and say they are the same?

But I do agree there is corruption on both sides. And there is also a large dose of ineptitude as well. But as time goes by I really do wonder how much influence has been asserted by the dirty intelligence agencies and their agents throughout the government.


Yes indeed,
However I do believe JimB has a valid observation with the following condition~s;

Individuals / people tend to relate to events as they see / experience in "Their World."

My use of "Their World" is not intended to call out or slam anyone, as I mean just that.

A persons surroundings and environment has a major impact on how they interact or don't interact with events, etc.

The ( loose ) phrase " The beltway is out of touch with mainstream America" is used often and I believe to be accurate.

Some ( or many ) here are political Hawks ( of sorts ) of different levels and others, just are not.

So with the complexity of these political situations being presented / discussed it can and is overwhelming to the ( more ) average individual~s and thus it is very easy to Blur everything into one group.
 
Crap soup and crap sandwich, you’re still getting the same crap.

IMO that is not true. Taxes differ and judges differ. Those two are obvious. I’d say more like New England Clam Chowder vs Manhattan Clam Chowder. Both chowder, but one really sucks worse than the other.
 
I run across some current info concerning the Virginia situation and different scenarios of how the situation could further develop and it was suggested / brought up that the UN could enter a conflict(?) under their own authority.
BTW, the UN entering conflict was not in reference to the current situation in Virginia but to another recent situation.

IN searching how in the Hell the UN could just inject themselves into a situation I discovered the following offensive force they have.
I am also unclear if they just deploy on their own or if such an action requires approval / SC Vote~s etc.

One thing is for certain, If an UN Offensive Force ( Force Intervention Brigade ) were to operate on USA Soil ( invited or not ) they would be Target Practice and I'm just stating the obvious, like it or not.

I'm also still looking into how this "FIB" is called up.


United Nations Force Intervention Brigade
the Force Intervention Brigade is the first UN peacekeeping operation specifically tasked to carry out targeted offensive operations to "neutralize and disarm" groups considered a threat to state authority and civilian security.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Force_Intervention_Brigade

UN approves DR Congo 'intervention brigade'

The resolution, sponsored by France, the US and Togo, would give the brigade a mandate to operate "in a robust, highly mobile and versatile manner" to ensure that armed groups cannot seriously threaten government authority or the security of civilians.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/afri...MIo5DUranJ5gIVBdvACh0SKAeGEAMYASAAEgIgQ_D_BwE



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The ones I am really worried about are the international brigade from Burundi. If they ever send in THOSE commandos, well, I fear the the blue helmets of the UN aggressors almost as much as those top notch special forces from Burundi. We should all fear their military might!
 
The ones I am really worried about are the international brigade from Burundi. If they ever send in THOSE commandos, well, I fear the the blue helmets of the UN aggressors almost as much as those top notch special forces from Burundi. We should all fear their military might!
The problem with the forces from Burundi are they will be robots. No connection to the moral and ethical values of their targets. They will simply do as they are told.
 
The ones I am really worried about are the international brigade from Burundi. If they ever send in THOSE commandos, well, I fear the the blue helmets of the UN aggressors almost as much as those top notch special forces from Burundi. We should all fear their military might!

Somehow I expected nothing less from you Tans.

As I pointed out ( yet in content you quoted ) it's not that a particular group is . "Called Up?" , but whether the UN has or had an "Offensive Unit" or used Troops / Resources Offensively, period.

As to this;
The ones I am really worried about are the international brigade from Burundi.

Now, I would expect any group or force to practice "When In Rome, Do As The Romans Do", meaning to "Blend In" with the Natives ( wherever ) and would be prudent with the following blend in troops;

With APC
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Content You Quoted, Tans;

United Nations Force Intervention Brigade
the Force Intervention Brigade is the first UN peacekeeping operation specifically tasked to carry out targeted offensive operations to "neutralize and disarm" groups considered a threat to state authority and civilian security.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Force_Intervention_Brigade
 
Now, I would expect any group or force to practice "When In Rome, Do As The Romans Do", meaning to "Blend In" with the Natives ( wherever ) and would be prudent with the following blend in troops;

With APC
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They'll have blue helmets, duh!
 
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I would certainly hope no one ever thinks such is a good idea, 'cos it's not & will end very badly.

As @tanstaafl72555 alluded to, no 'force' they might deploy here will be willing to die over our homeland. I doubt any 1st world nations would allow their members to be deployed in such a manner (that pesky willing to die thing) & any 3rd world country troops will simply desert en masse at first contact. The Dutch UNPROFOR troops couldn't/wouldn't prevent Srebrenica, so I really don't see any of them having the stomach for what they'd face here, despite any bullshit UN edicts.
 
I would certainly hope no one ever thinks such is a good idea, 'cos it's not & will end very badly.

As @tanstaafl72555 alluded to, no 'force' they might deploy here will be willing to die over our homeland. I doubt any 1st world nations would allow their members to be deployed in such a manner (that pesky willing to die thing) & any 3rd world country troops will simply desert en masse at first contact. The Dutch UNPROFOR troops couldn't/wouldn't prevent Srebrenica, so I really don't see any of them having the stomach for what they'd face here, despite any bullshit UN edicts.

Yes, and I fully agree that the UN deploying troops on US Soil would be a very bad idea.

However we do have some smart people here and one thing I brought to LIGHT in the beginning that naturally leads to a question, being;

1) The UN in fact has set a precedent for using "Offensive Troops" ,
United Nations Force Intervention Brigade
the Force Intervention Brigade is the first UN peacekeeping operation specifically tasked to carry out targeted offensive operations to "neutralize and disarm" groups considered a threat to state authority and civilian security.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Force_Intervention_Brigade

2) Do states ( under states rights) have the right to employ security forces ~ law enforcement forces ~ paramilitary or military forces outside the purview of any official state or US Federal agency or department?

The question is simple and I'm not saying that ( in this case Virginia ) doing such a thing is or would be smart, at all.
However with the apparent ( and justified ) tremendous push back from VA's different Gov Agency types to enforce unconstitutional law~s Northam and his AG are against the wall and ( by my beliefs ) still being ordered by their masters ( Bloomberg ~ Soros , etc ) to enforce gun laws by any means possible.


Currently, Gov Black Face has to decide to "Push or Select PLAY" or not.
I believe they are going to select "PLAY" when they feel the least damage will be done and I mean both in the financial markets and the Human cost because there will be Blood Spilled.

Shall We Play A Game
 
Currently, Gov Black Face has to decide to "Push or Select PLAY" or not.
I believe they are going to select "PLAY" when they feel the least damage will be done and I mean both in the financial markets and the Human cost because there will be Blood Spilled.
It might be interesting to consider his actions in the mathematical context of game theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory
 
Yes, and I fully agree that the UN deploying troops on US Soil would be a very bad idea.

However we do have some smart people here and one thing I brought to LIGHT in the beginning that naturally leads to a question, being;

1) The UN in fact has set a precedent for using "Offensive Troops" ,


2) Do states ( under states rights) have the right to employ security forces ~ law enforcement forces ~ paramilitary or military forces outside the purview of any official state or US Federal agency or department?

The question is simple and I'm not saying that ( in this case Virginia ) doing such a thing is or would be smart, at all.
However with the apparent ( and justified ) tremendous push back from VA's different Gov Agency types to enforce unconstitutional law~s Northam and his AG are against the wall and ( by my beliefs ) still being ordered by their masters ( Bloomberg ~ Soros , etc ) to enforce gun laws by any means possible.


Currently, Gov Black Face has to decide to "Push or Select PLAY" or not.
I believe they are going to select "PLAY" when they feel the least damage will be done and I mean both in the financial markets and the Human cost because there will be Blood Spilled.

Shall We Play A Game


Blustering, feckless, powerless punks who can't bring a force sufficient to stop a third world conflict in a povery stricken nation, and we are supposed to worry about them coming here because they have a written statement that says they have the "right" to do so?

Okay. I am emperor of the world, and if you don't pay your taxes to me, I have the right to come and take them. There. I have said it.
 
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... and for a final giggle...., does anyone in here want to hazard a guess where EIGHTY PER CENT of the UN operation budget comes from?
 
Blustering, feckless, powerless punks who can't bring a force sufficient to stop a third world conflict in a povery stricken nation, and we are supposed to worry about them coming here because they have a written statement that says they have the "right" to do so?

Okay. I am emperor of the world, and if you don't pay your taxes to me, I have the right to come and take them. There. I have said it.

Yup, well I think everyone has the same opinion of the UN.

Also keep in mind the UN was offered as a vague vehicle for an outside "Enforcement Arm" and was not the question.

The question still has not been answered, and I guess there may not be an answer because if Bloomberg and Like Minds wants to Hire Enforcement out, then they will just do it, legal or not as they could get who ever including "The Three Little Pigs" or
The Knights Who Say "Ni!"


2) Do states ( under states rights) have the right to employ security forces ~ law enforcement forces ~ paramilitary or military forces outside the purview of any official state or US Federal agency or department?

The question is simple and I'm not saying that ( in this case Virginia ) doing such a thing is or would be smart, at all.
However with the apparent ( and justified ) tremendous push back from VA's different Gov Agency types to enforce unconstitutional law~s Northam and his AG are against the wall and ( by my beliefs ) still being ordered by their masters ( Bloomberg ~ Soros , etc ) to enforce gun laws by any means possible.


 
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