Liberals really can be snobby.

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Ever notice that liberal city dwellers think everyone should want to live in a city?
They actually think Gov't transportation is public. They think posing 40 to 50% of income for rent is worth it for all the "culture" that cities have. They also area oblivious to just how must effort other city dwellers put into ignoring everyone around them.
The old NY echo home it true

"HELLO"
"SHUT THE EFF UP"

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Ferrisfan said:
Meh. City living is “efficient”. Things to do are close, people to do things with are close.

Doesn’t make it better.
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By no means cost efficient nor quality of life value.
The result of so people in a small area is that people inevitably sell to find any way to isolate themselves so they can have some semblance of space.
It is human nature. I've seen this in Boston, NY, San Francisco, Shanghai.
People will take out their phones to record a violent crime but most will do nothing to help the person being attacked.
Cities like Portland area what happens when the government outlaws living outside defined city limits unless one is operating an income producing farm.
Portland is overrun with lunatics who think they can use violence to force others to submit. The Police won't even allow officers to stop the violence.
That is what city dwellers want, though they will deny it in public.

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B00ger said:
I also love how it’s city folks who want to tell country folks how to take care of the land...
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They learned everything they needed to know about the countryside from coffee table books, just like they learned about wild animals.
 
This type of thinking is the same as those you are blaming. I met a country boy who was dumb as a box of rocks. However, I did not assume all country boys were the same. Stereotyping is an insidious habit, and I attribute it to a lot of today's problems.
 
fishgutzy said:
By no means cost efficient nor quality of life value.
The result of so people in a small area is that people inevitably sell to find any way to isolate themselves so they can have some semblance of space.
It is human nature. I've seen this in Boston, NY, San Francisco, Shanghai.
People will take out their phones to record a violent crime but most will do nothing to help the person being attacked.
Cities like Portland area what happens when the government outlaws living outside defined city limits unless one is operating an income producing farm.
Portland is overrun with lunatics who think they can use violence to force others to submit. The Police won't even allow officers to stop the violence.
That is what city dwellers want, though they will deny it in public.

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That’s why I put it in quotes. People move to the cities because it is close to work/sounds like fun to be close to stuff. Then they find they can’t afford the fun stuff anymore. Then the fun stuff starts going out of business and they look to move.

I think that most actually move to another city that costs less (younger in the growth process). Durham has tons of people who relocated from SF and Boston.
 
longhair said:
This type of thinking is the same as those you are blaming. I met a country boy who was dumb as a box of rocks. However, I did not assume all country boys were the same. Stereotyping is an insidious habit, and I attribute it to a lot of today's problems.
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Stereotyping liberal city dwellers. [emoji1787]
Liberals, on the whole, think what they believe is good for themselves should be mandated by law for everyone.
Liberals tend to be pro-choice only when we make choices they approve of.[emoji6]

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longhair said:
This type of thinking is the same as those you are blaming. I met a country boy who was dumb as a box of rocks. However, I did not assume all country boys were the same. Stereotyping is an insidious habit, and I attribute it to a lot of today's problems.
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Except, in this case, it is true... :D
 
longhair said:
This type of thinking is the same as those you are blaming. I met a country boy who was dumb as a box of rocks. However, I did not assume all country boys were the same. Stereotyping is an insidious habit, and I attribute it to a lot of today's problems.
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No one "invents" a sterotype out of nothing. It is just a trend people notice, with good cause. The urbanization of society has its good and bad, but the pathetic supercilious arrogance of the coasties -and the economic policies responsible for hollowing out "flyby" is the reason why the current polarization exists. There is ABSOLUTELY a privileged, self annointed smug attitude that "they" owe "us" the tax base and policies that enable the creation and flow of moneys to urban centers.

The shock, outrage, indignation and hatred that has come about from the unwashed saying "hell no!" reminds me of white folks in the 60s when blacks demanded their legit rights. It is Jim Crow redux, best summed up in "get back in your assigned place, else we kick you back there."

Uhhhh, no.
 
I love the people who look down their nose at me because I built my own deck or replaced the rear axle on my car. Like they're somehow better because they're committed to eat ramen for a month so they can pay someone to do those things rather than get their hands dirty.

I think they have a general disdain for people who are reasonably self sufficient
 
You couldnt pay me enough to live in a city again. My work takes me into the RAL area few times a month... I dont know how people maintain sanity in these places.
 
Jabroni said:
You couldnt pay me enough to live in a city again. My work takes me into the RAL area few times a month... I dont know how people maintain sanity in these places.
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It's like The Tick says: You're not going crazy, you're going sane in a crazy world. (i.e they don't).
 
longhair said:
This type of thinking is the same as those you are blaming. I met a country boy who was dumb as a box of rocks. However, I did not assume all country boys were the same. Stereotyping is an insidious habit, and I attribute it to a lot of today's problems.
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I can understand the appeal of both. There is a significant time cost to living far away from things where more of your time is spent just getting places. It balances the money cost of living in a city where things are close by. I like visiting cities where I can walk to lots of things. I like visiting the country where I can't see any neighbors. I wouldn't live somewhere over 30 minutes from work though.

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I think the bigger issue is really just a mindset liberals tend to have, regardless of where they live. A mindset that if you aren't doing it the way they are, then you are wrong.

In my experience the "political spectrum" on how others should behave goes something like:

Republican: I don't do it that way, you should try doing it this way.
Liberal: I don't do it that way, I will make you do it this way.
Libertarian: I do what I want, you do you just do it over there.

This applies to where people live, how they live, and what they believe in. It is a mindset of ingrained supremacy of thought. I >know< how I am leading my life may not be the best for everyone in the world. People think different and act different. Best I can do is show people how I am living and hope I am either a good example to follow, or a great deterrent. The vast majority of more liberal minded people I have dealt with are absolutely dead set on changing all those around them to either follow the herd, or get trampled. We see this in cancel culture all the time. Step out of line, the left will crush you if they can.

The absolute most racist people I have ever met are white liberals. They have some idea that minorities fail to have the mental capacity to find the DMV for an ID, research who to vote for, understand economics, and repeatedly remind them that they are not intelligent enough to know they have been oppressed by "the other whites".

The most greedy people I have ever met were white liberals. When I was growing up success was something to be praised. Someone getting a high paying job, or building a nice house, or amassing wealth was an awesome thing. These days greedy white liberals see it as an absolute sin for someone to have more than them. I personally know some dudes from this forum who are far more well off than me, and probably have far less education/experience than me. But they got their piece of the pie by grinding day in and day out and doing things I wasn't able or willing to do. So freaking awesome for them! When I see Battery Oaks Billy talk about his absolute wealth of an ammo/gun collection my first thought isn't "Well, he should really share with the forum, after all, how many does one man need..." my thought is "ROCK ON OLD MAN! GET You THEM IRONS! I WANNA BE LIKE YOU ONE DAY!". Had a young white liberal gal insist that "rich" people should pay more in taxes so she could have free healthcare...when I personally pay more each year in taxes alone than she earns as total wages.

Rant off...for now
 
Ferrisfan said:
Meh. City living is “efficient”. Things to do are close, people to do things with are close.

Doesn’t make it better.
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Yep. Expensive things to do are close by everywhere in every major city I've been too. I remember trying to get change from a store in LA to do the laundry at my friend's apartment, and they wanted .25 cents from every dollar. No thanks.

Supply lines and on-demand food delivery contracts are really close. Ask anyone from NYC how Hurricane Sandy affected their ability to get food (if the fridge wasn't stocked up) or move around/exit the city.

In a major disaster (or 2 Chechen's with pressure cookers and fireworks) expect to live in a city full of panicky folks with pointed stakes surrounding you. And we all know how that worked out for Jerusalem in 70 CE.
 
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tanstaafl72555 said:
No one "invents" a sterotype out of nothing. It is just a trend people notice, with good cause. The urbanization of society has its good and bad, but the pathetic supercilious arrogance of the coasties -and the economic policies responsible for hollowing out "flyby" is the reason why the current polarization exists. There is ABSOLUTELY a privileged, self annointed smug attitude that "they" owe "us" the tax base and policies that enable the creation and flow of moneys to urban centers.

The shock, outrage, indignation and hatred that has come about from the unwashed saying "hell no!" reminds me of white folks in the 60s when blacks demanded their legit rights. It is Jim Crow redux, best summed up in "get back in your assigned place, else we kick you back there."

Uhhhh, no.
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When we lived in MA, the town where I worked, drove out all companies that provided well paying manufacturing jobs that didn't require a degree.
Those companies were replaced with minimum wage retail jobs or financial services. Boston did the same thing decades earlier.

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tanstaafl72555 said:
No one "invents" a sterotype out of nothing. It is just a trend people notice, with good cause. The urbanization of society has its good and bad, but the pathetic supercilious arrogance of the coasties -and the economic policies responsible for hollowing out "flyby" is the reason why the current polarization exists. There is ABSOLUTELY a privileged, self annointed smug attitude that "they" owe "us" the tax base and policies that enable the creation and flow of moneys to urban centers.

The shock, outrage, indignation and hatred that has come about from the unwashed saying "hell no!" reminds me of white folks in the 60s when blacks demanded their legit rights. It is Jim Crow redux, best summed up in "get back in your assigned place, else we kick you back there."

Uhhhh, no.
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Every single one is the same, huh? Every single "coastie" is full pathetic supercilious arrogance? They ALL believe this? You have met every one?

How about the dumb redneck flyover stereotype? Is that a "good cause trend" people just "happen to notice"?
Or is it a dumb ignorant stereotype made by people who really don't know or interact with many Country people, and only make the statement to make themselves feel a notch up on the social ladder?

I think it's more of the latter, having lived extensively in both. Splitting people into "Country GOOD / Coastie BAD" is intellectually lazy AF.
 
Ikarus1 said:
I remember trying to get change from a store in LA to do the laundry at my friend's apartment, and they wanted .25 cents from every dollar.
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heh heh. Some guy in a quick shop wanted 10 cents to give me change for a dollar. I thanked him, declined, and bought a 3 cent piece of candy and paid for it with a 20 dollar bill.
 
I've never had a job within 30 minutes of where I live. Hell, I thought I had hit the jackpot when I found one a little over 30 minutes away.

I've lived in the city briefly. If the sound of nonstop traffic, some Mexican running a backpack leaf blower to push around 16 cigarette butts in a courtyard, and living close enough to somebody to kill them with a ND from a slingshot is the height of culture, count my ass out.

The most judgemental folks I have ever met were inner city liberals. Their discrimination was either blatant (in that I was some inbred hick that probably couldn't figure my way out of a paper bag) or pitying condescension (as if I couldn't follow their cognitive dissonance posing as logic). Hell, we have (had) some here that believe you are white trash for parking in your yard.

One thing is for damn sure; their liberal utopia couldn't exist without the efforts of those they love to look down on.
 
My closest neighbor is 500 yards away and I love it.

I recall an article I read some time ago about the UN wanted everyone to live in the cities. Sounds like a control thing to me. If it is a control thing the Millenials are falling into a trap, because they love the city life .
 
ES44AC said:
My closest neighbor is 500 yards away and I love it.

I recall an article I read some time ago about the UN wanted everyone to live in the cities. Sounds like a control thing to me. If it is a control thing the Millenials are falling into a trap, because they love the city life .
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But as soon as they get married and have children, priorities change and they want to move out of cities, for the most part.
To me, there is nothing to do in cities.

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NKD said:
Every single one is the same, huh? Every single "coastie" is full pathetic supercilious arrogance? They ALL believe this? You have met every one?
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Did not say nor imply that. A "Trend" is just that. A generally observed characteristic.

NKD said:
How about the dumb redneck flyover stereotype? Is that a "good cause trend" people just "happen to notice"?
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Yep. and anyone who is from Gadsden Alabama would agree. Whether it is driving by a filling station with "Machanic on duty" or having a sign in back of the courthouse "Reserved for Department of Edacation" (no lie, both of these really happened), there is a REASON for caricatures).

NKD said:
Or is it a dumb ignorant stereotype made by people who really don't know or interact with many Country people, and only make the statement to make themselves feel a notch up on the social ladder?
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I am not sure it is an "either/or." When Carole and I moved to Boca Raton Fl, I was even MORE ignorant and unsophisticated than I am now (no kidding, I did not even know what a "bagel" was till I was 19 years old). I have a very pronounced Southern Drawl as does my wife. The funny thing was the different ways people from New York/New Jersey/Boston Corridor responded to us. My wife is beautiful and was in her day SMOKING hot! With that soft southern thing and her gentle ways, she literally knocked them out. I mean, men would walk across the room to open the door for her... thought she was Scarlet O'Hara or something. They noticed me, too, but mostly to check if the hillbilly was wearing shoes!

You have to learn to laugh at this (and play to your strengths.... it helped to be able to flip my accent to my advantage.... humor helps). When I see the snooty coasties mocking anyone who doesn't live in their world (my brother lives in LA and it is interesting to hear their world reflected and parodied in his dialogue), you can see why I sneer

NKD said:
I think it's more of the latter, having lived extensively in both. Splitting people into "Country GOOD / Coastie BAD" is intellectually lazy AF.
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A generalization is not. Just depends on how locked into the generalization you are
 
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B00ger said:
A mindset that if you aren't doing it the way they are, then you are wrong.
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I read that at least three times a day on this forum. " I do it like this and everyone else is wrong!"

I think the attitude stems from an inability to believe that you might be wrong.

I understand what you meant: the liberal says "No one should be allowed to do this any way but mine". The conservative says "You should do this the way I do because my way is the best".

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GoWolfpack said:
I read that at least three times a day on this forum. " I do it like this and everyone else is wrong!"

I think the attitude stems from an inability to believe that you might be wrong.

I understand what you meant: the liberal says "No one should be allowed to do this any way but mine". The conservative says "You should do this the way I do because my way is the best".

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No doubt, among individuals its hard to accept that the way someone else is doing something may have merit, or even be the best for them. There are times where there are relative absolutes. Measuring a powder load carefully, using quality gear is best, getting training is a good idea and so forth. Its when the "If you don't get training 12 times per year you suck" or the "If you aren't using X super expensive reloading gear then you suck" or "If you aren't running a 5,000 AR then you are just a poor" starts up that I get irritable.
 
ES44AC said:
My closest neighbor is 500 yards away and I love it.

I recall an article I read some time ago about the UN wanted everyone to live in the cities. Sounds like a control thing to me. If it is a control thing the Millenials are falling into a trap, because they love the city life .
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Mine is almost a mile away, moved to that after spending most of my life living in neighborhoods on 5000-square-foot lots. Won't ever go back. My son (18) used to want to live in the city, until he realized all the things he COULDN'T do.

Now they're proposing eliminating home ownership: https://twitter.com/thenation/status/1210181476949606402
 
random said:
Mine is almost a mile away, moved to that after spending most of my life living in neighborhoods on 5000-square-foot lots. Won't ever go back. My son (18) used to want to live in the city, until he realized all the things he COULDN'T do.

Now they're proposing eliminating home ownership: https://twitter.com/thenation/status/1210181476949606402
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The Nation is a communist propaganda rag. [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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ES44AC said:
My closest neighbor is 500 yards away and I love it.

I recall an article I read some time ago about the UN wanted everyone to live in the cities. Sounds like a control thing to me. If it is a control thing the Millenials are falling into a trap, because they love the city life .
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If you need to dedicate resources toward getting people clean water, processing sewage, providing medical care, etc. then having people densely located in cities makes sense.
 
GoWolfpack said:
I can understand the appeal of both. There is a significant time cost to living far away from things where more of your time is spent just getting places. It balances the money cost of living in a city where things are close by. I like visiting cities where I can walk to lots of things. I like visiting the country where I can't see any neighbors. I wouldn't live somewhere over 30 minutes from work though.

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Disagree whole heartedly. I left home early one morning to go to a job site on hwy 1 in Raleigh NC. Took me less time to get to Knightdale from Williamston than it took to get from Knightdale to Hwy 1. That is about 92 miles compared to around 15 miles. Just being close doesn't mean you get there quick.
 
I live in Lewisville, so it isn’t a major city but next to one. I get most of the benefits of living in a city with few of the drawbacks. However I get none of the benefits of living in the country. Neighbors close, can’t shoot on my land, can’t take leaves naked.


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