Yet another reason not to trust anything coming out of Cambridge U?

It's a visual image, it calls for attention by default. The size, location, and target audience do not override the fact that it's designed for visual attention.

Again, nope.
I have one, no one would ever know. Heck, I forget most of the time.
I did it for ME, for no one else, that's why, as Ive hinted, it's hidden. Again, strip me down (Im sure you and your friends would love to, but, please, no) and you'll not see it. You could spread my butt cheeks, lift my sack and peen, look between my fingers and toes...nah, not visible. Shave my head, look behind my ears, on the bottoms of my feet, and still nothing.

But sure, keep backing up BB thinking that they are only for grabbing attention and screaming out 'LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!'
 
Again, nope.
I have one, no one would ever know. Heck, I forget most of the time.
I did it for ME, for no one else, that's why, as Ive hinted, it's hidden. Again, strip me down (Im sure you and your friends would love to, but, please, no) and you'll not see it. You could spread my butt cheeks, lift my sack and peen, look between my fingers and toes...nah, not visible. Shave my head, look behind my ears, on the bottoms of my feet, and still nothing.

But sure, keep backing up BB thinking that they are only for grabbing attention and screaming out 'LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!'

That's all well and good, but despite the fact that it can't be seen, you still used this thread to call attention to it, so your argument isn't too persuasive.

If you had thought about it you might have realized that in effect using your own tattoo to prove your point is calling attention to it, proving BBs point.
 
Last edited:
Sure is...and not from those with tattoos.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You seem to have conveniently ignored those folks in this thread with tattoos who agreed with the premise, only to attack BB for offering a personal opinion. You countered with a personal opinion that has no more or less validity. What's your point?
 
If y’all can’t keep it together this thread will disappear. Only warning
 
You seem to have conveniently ignored those folks in this thread with tattoos who agreed with the premise, only to attack BB for offering a personal opinion. You countered with a personal opinion that has no more or less validity. What's your point?

My point, Matt, is that the reasons people get tattoos are as varied and different as the people who get them. There is no “one mold” or purpose behind them that can be applied universally as many people here are so desirous to do. Some people get them to be show offs, some people enjoy the shock value. And some people get them because they don’t care what you think and just like them. And even some people get them for deep personal reasons and have no problem keeping them hid for decades, and if by chance they are seen it is not because they wished to make a spectacle out of it.

I didn’t “attack” BB, despite your belief that I did. I merely pointed out that his view of tattoos were extremely narrow minded and harken back to the boomer age.

Face it, this is all “personal opinion”.

To further this, we could apply this study and perspective to many more things, including firearm ownership. Some people are show offs and want the world to see their toys. Some people even want to shove them in people’s face as a “screw you” to the establishment. While some people are merely collectors, or others who are in it purely as a means of self defense.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Last edited:
If y’all can’t keep it together this thread will disappear. Only warning

giphy.gif

giphy.gif



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
My point, Matt, is that the reasons people get tattoos are as varied and different as the people who get them. There is no “one mold” or purpose behind them that can be applied universally as many people here are so desirous to do. Some people get them to be show offs, some people enjoy the shock value. And some people get them because they don’t care what you think and just like them. And even some people get them for deep personal reasons and have no problem keeping them hid for decades, and if by chance they are seen it is not because they wished to make a spectacle out of it.

I didn’t “attack” BB, despite your belief that I did. I merely pointed out that his view of tattoos were extremely narrow minded and harken back to the boomer age.

Face it, this is all “personal opinion”.

To further this, we could apply this study and perspective to many more things, including firearm ownership. Some people are show offs and want the world to see their toys. Some people even want to shove them in people’s face as a “screw you” to the establishment. While some people are merely collectors, or others who are in it purely as a means of self defense.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thank you for clarifying that, perhaps I can do the same.

Based on re-reading BB's post, I don't see the implication that getting attention is the sole reason for getting a tattoo, but that's just me and my reading comprehension and what I gather from knowing BB personally.

Re-reading what I have posted, I don't see anything suggesting the same.

It doesn't seem unreasonable to believe that a desire for attention could be a motivating factor for a tattoo, so inform me as to why acknowledging BB's opinion as valid is so preposterous, given that it wasn't offered as a sole motivating factor.
 
Last edited:
lol ok

What if someone has one tattoo. And it's hidden, they did it for themselves and not to show off.
And when I say 'hidden' I mean they could strip down naked and still not be visible.
That's one example. Some people just really enjoy them, it's not about drawing attention to themselves
But, yeah, you right, it's all an attention thing...
You means something like "Welcome to Jamaica, have a nice day?"

[emoji6]

Sent from my LG-H820 using Tapatalk
 
Too many variables: what are the tats, why did one get the tats, when did one get the tats, etc.

The answers are as varied as the people who get them.
 
Thank you for clarifying that, perhaps I can do the same.

Based on re-reading BB's post, I don't see the implication that getting attention is the sole reason for getting a tattoo, but that's just me and my reading comprehension and what I gather from knowing BB personally.

Re-reading what I have posted, I don't see anything suggesting the same.

It doesn't seem unreasonable to believe that a desire for attention could be a motivating factor for a tattoo, so inform me as to why acknowledging BB's opinion as valid is so preposterous, given that it wasn't offered as a sole motivating factor.

“I have always thought a tattoo was a cry to ‘Look at me look at me’”

Is an extremely narrow focused.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
“I have always thought a tattoo was a cry to ‘Look at me look at me’”

Is an extremely narrow focused.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I grant you that, and I agree, but nobody wants to read 3 chapters of a personal opinion on the many motivational factors behind tattoos either, so in this case narrow is probably better.

Shall I remedy this with a request for BB to share a detailed thesis?
 
Last edited:
I grant you that, and I agree, but nobody wants to read 3 chapters of a personal opinion on the many motivational factors behind tattoos either, so in this case narrow is probably better.

Or just not default to being narrow minded and obtuse and remaining silent works well too.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
  • Like
Reactions: HMP
Thank you for clarifying that, perhaps I can do the same.

Based on re-reading BB's post, I don't see the implication that getting attention is the sole reason for getting a tattoo, but that's just me and my reading comprehension and what I gather from knowing BB personally.

Re-reading what I have posted, I don't see anything suggesting the same.

It doesn't seem unreasonable to believe that a desire for attention could be a motivating factor for a tattoo, so inform me as to why acknowledging BB's opinion as valid is so preposterous, given that it wasn't offered as a sole motivating factor.


The need for attention, unless reaching clinical grade outcomes (fake suicide, compulsive disruptive behavior, pathological lying to redirect attention, blah blah) has nothing to do with the findings of the researcher. Just to keep this in check. Honestly, this papers only purpose is to educate psychologists and psychiatrists on a particular statistically significant demographic they uncovered in their research. the interpretive verbiage of the study results are just telling said clinicians that they should stay current with medically-relevant procedures such as tattoo removal methods etc so they can have productive patient-physician discussions in the event their patients are having exacerbated medical problems with regard to a particular tattoo. After all, the medical community would rather those wishing to get a tattoo removed solicit such medical advise from their doctor, rather than their bartender or next door neighbor. Really has nothing to do with peoples non-clinical needs for attention or anything non-clinical at all for that matter. Any attempt to support a conclusion the study wasn't designed and controlled for would be disingenuous and meritless.
 
Last edited:
Or just not default to being narrow minded and obtuse and remaining silent works well too.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Or just not default to being narrow minded and obtuse and remaining silent works well too.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Think your way or be quiet...

That's open-mindedness in a nutshell. :rolleyes:
 
Last edited:
The need for attention, unless reaching clinical grade outcomes (fake suicide, compulsive disruptive behavior, pathological lying to redirect attention, blah blah) has nothing to do with the findings of the researcher. Just to keep this in check. Honestly, this papers only purpose is to educate psychologists and psychiatrists on a particular statistically significant demographic they uncovered in their research. the interpretive verbiage of the study results are just telling said clinicians that they should stay current with medically-relevant procedures such as tattoo removal methods etc so they can have productive patient-physician discussions in the event their patients are having exacerbated medical problems with regard to a particular tattoo. After all, the medical community would rather those wishing to get a tattoo removed solicit such medical advise from their doctor, rather than their bartender or next door neighbor. Really has nothing to do with peoples non-clinical needs for attention or anything non-clinical at all for that matter. Any attempt to support a conclusion the study wasn't designed and controlled for would be disingenuous and meritless.
upload_2020-1-3_16-10-48.jpeg
 
Think your way or be quiet...

That's open-mindedness in a nutshell. :rolleyes:

No...he expressed a narrow minded and ignorant perspective and got called out. If he did that as opposed to actually explaining how he really feels then he is intending to be inflammatory.

He made a choice to speak his narrow minded views. I never said he couldn’t. But when you do you need to be prepared to be challenging on your views. Which I did.

I get it...he’s your friend and you want to stick up for him. Good on you.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Last edited:
No...he expressed a narrow minded and ignorant perspective and got called out. If he did that as opposed to actually explaining how he really feels then he is intending to be inflammatory.

He made a choice to speak his narrow minded views. I never said he couldn’t. But when you do you need to be prepared to be challenging on your views. Which I did.

I get it...he’s your friend and you want to stick up for him. Good on you.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You chose the most narrow-minded interpretation of his statement and took exception to it. Our friendship isn't relevant to this conversation at all. I'm simply addressing what has and hasn't been said. Some of y'all are clearly foreigners to the concept of having real friends stick up for you, and your jealousy is flattering but wasted.
 
You chose the most narrow-minded interpretation of his statement and took exception to it. Our friendship isn't relevant to this conversation at all. I'm simply addressing what has and hasn't been said. Some of y'all are clearly foreigners to the concept of having real friends stick up for you, and your jealousy is flattering but wasted.

I interpreted it exactly as he wrote it. And I assure you, there is no jealousy to be found here.

Now excuse me while me and my “sad life” as BB accused me of having continues on as I go on vacation with my family and enjoy a fun weekend.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
I guess low self esteem would be considered a mental disorder?? I have always thought a tattoo was a cry to "look at me, look at me"....

Especially those done in places that are covered by clothes, right? A lot of people get them done for themselves, their own pride, etc. My tattoos are visible to others only rarely, like when I’m at the beach in a tank top or shirtless. Just because they can occasionally be seen doesn’t mean they’re there so people will “look at me...”
 
My tattoos are visible to others only rarely, like when I’m at the beach in a tank top or shirtless.

I saw them at Battery Oaks when your little ass was sleeping in the flower pot hanging outside the bunkhouse
 
Real friends would stop you from running off the rails, not tell you every thing's fine while you're barreling towards a chasm.

What chasm are you referring to? I often experience threats when good arguments/responses are running short, wouldn't want to deny you your opportunity...

Perhaps I've violated some rule by being civil and/or passionate?
 
Especially those done in places that are covered by clothes, right? A lot of people get them done for themselves, their own pride, etc. My tattoos are visible to others only rarely, like when I’m at the beach in a tank top or shirtless. Just because they can occasionally be seen doesn’t mean they’re there so people will “look at me...”

Mine's only visible when I bend over in the nude. It reads : "Not gay or European. Please keep digits out. Violators will be shot".
 
I interpreted it exactly as he wrote it. And I assure you, there is no jealousy to be found here.

Now excuse me while me and my “sad life” as BB accused me of having continues on as I go on vacation with my family and enjoy a fun weekend.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Have a great weekend, thank you for engaging with me in this discussion.
 
I've found as I've gotten older that transferring some of those emotions & images to my skin helps to close the book on certain things & cuts down on the number of voices yammering angrily inside my head.

I believe I read somewhere that this plays a large role in Japanese tattoo culture.
 
Again, nope.
I have one, no one would ever know. Heck, I forget most of the time.
I did it for ME, for no one else, that's why, as Ive hinted, it's hidden. Again, strip me down (Im sure you and your friends would love to, but, please, no) and you'll not see it. You could spread my butt cheeks, lift my sack and peen, look between my fingers and toes...nah, not visible. Shave my head, look behind my ears, on the bottoms of my feet, and still nothing.

But sure, keep backing up BB thinking that they are only for grabbing attention and screaming out 'LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!'

Well, dammit, you have me intrigued. Is it Glenn Danzig's portrait in your navel?
 
Well, dammit, you have me intrigued. Is it Glenn Danzig's portrait in your navel?
dude I told you not to tell!!!

To be honest, as much as I enjoy the 1st and 2nd forms of Misfits (Danzig and Graves eras), I think Danzig is a prick.

Mine is so basic - sXe
 
dude I told you not to tell!!!

To be honest, as much as I enjoy the 1st and 2nd forms of Misfits (Danzig and Graves eras), I think Danzig is a prick.

Mine is so basic - sXe

Straight edge, but where is it? Lower lip?

Danzig, he's from Jersey, it's just part of the territory. I've really enjoyed his musical evolution over the years, from Samhain to his current offerings. And while I like the dude, watching him get glassjawed by the big ol' cornfed boy in the video going around a while back was funny.

I actually have a live recording of us doing a cover of "Theme For A Jackal" pulled from a soundboard recording, somewhere.

Mikail Graves was outstanding on American Psycho; "The Shining" is a fantastic track. Famous Monsters was a bit meh. Didn't he on to be a B team hockey player?
 
  • Like
Reactions: HMP
@premise
Isnt it Friday Night Fight Night or something?



Bah, you posted it will I typed it out.

That is just one choreographed, fat armed haymaker.

One of the first things my pop taught me when I was old enough to fight was to never shove anybody if you're planning on doing them harm; just go ahead and swing or grab them.
 
Straight edge, but where is it? Lower lip?

Danzig, he's from Jersey, it's just part of the territory. I've really enjoyed his musical evolution over the years, from Samhain to his current offerings. And while I like the dude, watching him get glassjawed by the big ol' cornfed boy in the video going around a while back was funny.

I actually have a live recording of us doing a cover of "Theme For A Jackal" pulled from a soundboard recording, somewhere.

Mikail Graves was outstanding on American Psycho; "The Shining" is a fantastic track. Famous Monsters was a bit meh. Didn't he on to be a B team hockey player?


I dont think he did hockey, to my knowledge he's still doing music.
He's a bit of an outcast in the punk world, as a vocal Republican.

So, I've got to be honest with you about my Misfits history:
First time I ever heard their songs was part of a tribute album (Violent World, had covers by Bouncing Souls, Earth Crisis, Goldfinger, NOFX, Pennywise etc REALLY GOOD!). So Im hearing these punk covers but never heard THEM.
I just ASSUMED they were metal or something cause all the metal heads I knew wore their shirts and patches etc

Anyway, they came through WS back in 99/00ish with Earth Crisis opening (yeah, theyre sxe, btu Im not a fan), and I remember when they started I turned to my friend and went, "THIS IS PUNK!"

Yeah, I didnt know.
KILLER show.
Jerry Only came out afterwards and punched me in the hand (as he was want to do to his fans) with his spiked glove.

So the first time I heard THE MISFITS was Graves, so its always stuck with me.
And as good as Danzig is with the vocals, those old recordings are garbage. Would love to see one of their reunion shows with him back, but the prices are ridiculous.
 
I dont think he did hockey, to my knowledge he's still doing music.
He's a bit of an outcast in the punk world, as a vocal Republican.

So, I've got to be honest with you about my Misfits history:
First time I ever heard their songs was part of a tribute album (Violent World, had covers by Bouncing Souls, Earth Crisis, Goldfinger, NOFX, Pennywise etc REALLY GOOD!). So Im hearing these punk covers but never heard THEM.
I just ASSUMED they were metal or something cause all the metal heads I knew wore their shirts and patches etc

Anyway, they came through WS back in 99/00ish with Earth Crisis opening (yeah, theyre sxe, btu Im not a fan), and I remember when they started I turned to my friend and went, "THIS IS PUNK!"

Yeah, I didnt know.
KILLER show.
Jerry Only came out afterwards and punched me in the hand (as he was want to do to his fans) with his spiked glove.

So the first time I heard THE MISFITS was Graves, so its always stuck with me.
And as good as Danzig is with the vocals, those old recordings are garbage. Would love to see one of their reunion shows with him back, but the prices are ridiculous.

Lol. I was a metal head before I was into punk, but I was indoctrinated, like many, by friend's older brothers. Love hearing folk's stories about how they got into it.

And while those old recordings lack a lot of modern production, I believe it absolutely works for the greater body of their material. I've spent a lot of time trying to make albums sound that stripped down and raw, both at my own behest and people paying for it.

These first two songs they recorded, when Glenn was playing a Rhodes or some other electric piano, with no guitar whatsoever have more atmosphere and depth than anything else they did as a band:

 
  • Like
Reactions: HMP
Agreed, cool hearing stories of how people got to something pretty obscure like punk rock.
 
I believe I read somewhere that this plays a large role in Japanese tattoo culture.

Very cool. I did not know that. My motivations for getting tattooed have evolved over the 30+ years since my first. It wasn't until I got serious about it when we started work on completing my right sleeve a few years ago, that I came to that kinda philosophy.

A tattoo session is very cathartic for me. Rite of passage of sorts, where hours of physical pain scrub away years of emotional anguish. Some are willing to pay that price & some of us will have much more expensive journeys than others.
 
Very cool. I did not know that. My motivations for getting tattooed have evolved over the 30+ years since my first. It wasn't until I got serious about it when we started work on completing my right sleeve a few years ago, that I came to that kinda philosophy.

A tattoo session is very cathartic for me. Rite of passage of sorts, where hours of physical pain scrub away years of emotional anguish. Some are willing to pay that price & some of us will have much more expensive journeys than others.

I haven't got a tattoo since I was legally able.

Joining the workforce and meeting people has become my ever present painful rite of passage.

A good friend of mine has a similar philosophy. He is family oriented and has a limb devoted to each member. It's impressive, and comes off very much as a tribute to the people that created him, and those that he has created.
 
Being a Boomer gives me a perspective of tattoes that is vastly different from those of today's younger generations. My first remembrance of tattoos was of persons who were not very socially acceptable but then along came Dennis Rodman and all his friends, that's when I knew I was no longer mainstream. So be it, every generation has to have their identity and as time passes the definition of youth will be currently unguessable but certainly there will be a different look in the future. I probably won't be around but I'm sure when those of you with the tattooed bodies turn into bonified geezers and the wrinkles set in the display will be a sight to see, one that I'll gladly pass on to my heirs.
 
Back
Top Bottom