Iraq’s Parliament calls for expulsion of US troops from the country following drone attack

We can patrol the bad Iraqi/Hezbo guys from Kabul. But there's a lot of stores and materiel on the ground in Baghdad. We're gonna need some security while we inventory all that stuff. Or we could just take our time talking to all the ministers and translators and waiting for them to act stupid again.
 
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Pack up and

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In Tom Clancy's Executive Orders, the United Islamic Republic (Iraq + Iran) was born from Iran's assassination of "the Mustache" - a euphemistic reference to Hussein. It might be interesting to observe the creation of a real United Islamic Republic, born a generation later, from events initiated by the taking out of Soleimani.

And where next ... I'll bet intelligence folks in Saudi Arabia are not getting much sleep.
 
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I heard that Iraq’s Parliament is split. Half of them are subservient to Iran’s interests and about half to the US and/or independence. Sounds pretty freaking messy. Not sure how we stay without bigger problems, or get out cleanly. Should have just cleaned house and got out quickly the first time.
 
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CZfool68 said:
I heard that Iraq’s Parliament is split. Half of them are subservient to Iran’s interests and about half to the US and/or independence. Sounds pretty freaking messy. Not sure how we stay without bigger problems, or get out cleanly. Should have just cleaned house and got out quickly the first time.
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I'll give you two guesses who was responsible for the maneuvering to get the Iran friendly folks in power. Here's a hint, he's currently assumed room temperature.
 
If the US, under Trump, pulls all troops out of Iraq and something really bad happens in the next few month with a terrorist attack or such any bets the Dims, MSM and other lefties scream Trump was wrong for pulling out of Iraq?
 
NCFubar said:
If the US, under Trump, pulls all troops out of Iraq and something really bad happens in the next few month with a terrorist attack or such any bets the Dims, MSM and other lefties scream Trump was wrong for pulling out of Iraq?
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regardless of what happens in the next few months - they will be screaming about trump so screw em.
 
NCFubar said:
If the US, under Trump, pulls all troops out of Iraq and something really bad happens in the next few month with a terrorist attack or such any bets the Dims, MSM and other lefties scream Trump was wrong for pulling out of Iraq?
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Let’s be honest, it doesn’t matter what Trump does, the Demtards will claim it was the wrong thing to do. Doesn’t matter what happens, it’s always Trumps fault...
 
NCFubar said:
If the US, under Trump, pulls all troops out of Iraq and something really bad happens in the next few month with a terrorist attack or such any bets the Dims, MSM and other lefties scream Trump was wrong for pulling out of Iraq?
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That's a given!

Which ever way the wind blows.
 
chiefjason said:
I'll give you two guesses who was responsible for the maneuvering to get the Iran friendly folks in power. Here's a hint, he's currently assumed room temperature.
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Nope, you are wrong!

I’d bet he’s still smoldering a little. :p
 
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NCFubar said:
If the US, under Trump, pulls all troops out of Iraq and something really bad happens in the next few month with a terrorist attack or such any bets the Dims, MSM and other lefties scream Trump was wrong for pulling out of Iraq?
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both narratives are already written, along with many others...
 
Here's a shocker...

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Time reread lights out and one second after.
 
So we've spent the last almost 20 years stuck in Iraq. A good portion of that trying to prevent a civil war.
Now we're going to (hopefully) leave and guess what's likely going to happen?

I just don't have any faith in any kind of lasting peace in that part of the world. So many tribal and religious groups, all gunning for each other. Let 'em Balkanize and fight their blood feuds, it's none of our business.
 
I will always wonder whether Trump stumbled into this or if it was a really brilliant move to kill a terrorist AND get our troops out of Iraq in a way that neither the Democrats or neo-cons can argue with.
 
We made the big mistake years ago and will never be able to remove our military presence in the area. Trump is just another boob in a long string of idiots that think they know how to play the game with those in that area. Hopelessly locked down with more to come.
 
gc70 said:
I will always wonder whether Trump stumbled into this or if it was a really brilliant move to kill a terrorist AND get our troops out of Iraq in a way that neither the Democrats or neo-cons can argue with.
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I dunno... Leaving with the job not finished and because they tell us to leave looks weak IMO. Long term tho it might just be the smallest turd on the buffet. Out is out, and I don't see another way.
 
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I dunno... Leaving with the job not finished and because they tell us to leave looks weak IMO. Long term tho it might just be the smallest turd on the buffet. Out is out, and I don't see another way.
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What job not finished?? What is the job?? That whole region was more stable when Saddam was running things over there. Sure he was a ruthless dictator who was killing people, but he was killing other Muslims who hated us anyway. Let's GTFO of there, and if they want to mess with us after we leave, ICBMs and high altitude bombing runs.
 
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It was a non-binding resolution. No law, no teeth.
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Correct...and the latest...their Prime Minister earlier today stated they were preparing the legal memo to fully implement the resolution; a second parliamentary session for a final binding vote to implement is now scheduled for 11 Jan.

The first vote was just to test the waters...
 
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Time to leave. They are scared as heck of there own people to make a decision that gives power to infidels. They know it will be bad for these governing guys but they don’t want to be assassinated. When we leave without aid they will finally be easy fruit for Iran to take over. Let Iran have them. Iran will be forced to fight skirmishes for many years to come.

I agree Hassan Saddam was a bad leader but he kept the country more stable than what has happened since. Killing his own people is better than us killing them and creating terrorist who create havoc around the globe.
 
Mixed feelings here ... a lot of money and way to much American Blood was given over the years ... but sometimes when shit ain’t working you gotta try something new. Kinda like warfare has evolved over history from Revolutionary and Civil War skirmish lines to WWI trench’s to WWII sea and air superiority to jungle tactics in Korea and Vietnam. Warfare has evolved and adapted to where and who you are fighting. This goes for any conflict we are in and in the Middle East we might be holding ground but we sure are not making friends and building anything that has or likely will be sustained ... it’s costing money, life and limb.

We have abilities to reach damn far damn fast with modern technology for intel. We have the ability to be wheels up in a couple hours ... and if really pressed minutes from true Allied bases. We have “special” abilities to go into places, handle the problem and get out pretty much before the problem even knows what’s happened.

Oh yeah ... when we do pull out bring every freakin’ thing home we can ... man, machine and MONEY and don’t send a damn thing back when they eventually start whining for help.
 
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Catfish said:
I dunno... Leaving with the job not finished and because they tell us to leave looks weak IMO. Long term tho it might just be the smallest turd on the buffet. Out is out, and I don't see another way.
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it does look weak. But that’s the endless cycle of America’s current foreign policy strategy. I get the arguments on both sides, but at some point just like the Cold War,, someone needs to take the “high road”.

fine we look weak. Let them challenge our weakness. If they declare war on us, at least we are entitled to repayments and all sorts or war booty when we annihilate them.
 
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