1911 Skool: Cocked and Locked for how long?

John Travis

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Here we go.

I have an personal anecdote that addresses this very question.

In the early fall of 1991, my stepfather's aunt died at a ripe, old age. Mid-90s if I recall.

Her granddaughters found her husband's old pistol in the attic, wrapped in a diaper and stored in a hat box. Uncle Will had been a town constable in Courtney, NC and part time railroad detective. He died in his sleep, and Aunt Emma found his pistol in the nightstand, and not knowing what else to do, wrapped it up and placed it in the hatbox in the attic, where it was forgotten until the girls discovered it.

Having no living male heirs, and being a little afraid of guns, they called Homer to come and get it. Then, he called me to tell me that he had the pistol and he thought it may be loaded.

When I got there, he handed me a nice commercial Colt Government Model that was indeed loaded...cocked and locked. I dropped the magazine and cleared the chamber. There were six rounds in the magazine. The serial number resolved to 1921.

After a cursory examination, I placed the loose round back into the magazine...locked it into the pistol...and stepped outside. I then proceeded to fire the gun to slidelock. It functioned perfectly.

The kicker? Uncle Will died a fairly young man in the summer of 1929. The pistol was cocked and locked...with six rounds in the magazine...for over 62 years.
 
Thanks for answering a question I'd often wondered about.
 
Because the gun functions does not say the springs are in spec.
Springs generally go bad or get light in a few different ways.
Corrosion (that reduces the overall dia)
Use (cyclic)
Compression (keeping compressed for extremely long times)
Over loading (to the point they deform)
Heat (high temp or extended hot or cold temp)

Not all springs react the same, coil springs, flat springs can all depend on the quality and materials.

If it were me, I would replace the springs on a gun that old, save the old ones in a bag if I planned to shoot the gun. Really no way of telling if they are good or bad without testing the spring or you start seeing damage because of a bad spring.
The coil springs make me more concerned than flat.
 
Sweet. This is not the first time I've heard very similar stories. At the risk of preaching to the choir, l it's the compression/uncompression cycle that wears out springs, not leaving them compressed.
 
Cool story, have a similar one with a battlefield pickup from WW2, German Luger.

Wife’s father’s oldest brother obtained it and brought it home. It was in its holster and placed in the top drawer of a dresser or vanity where it stayed. Around 2015 he passed and my FIL went down for the funeral. While there he collected the gun, holster, spare mag and ammo and shipped it all to me Fedex. It arrived in good shape, wrapped in socks. Cocked and locked.

Not my gun, so I did not fire it. I did clean it up and then returned it to my FIL who gave it to his only son. No indication that it would not have functioned perfectly. I did not return the ammo.
 
If it were me, I would replace the springs on a gun that old, save the old ones in a bag if I planned to shoot the gun.
He didn't. As far as I know, it was never fired again. His son-in-law likely wound up with his gun collection, and knowing him...likely sold for about half what they were worth.

Really no way of telling if they are good or bad without testing the spring or you start seeing damage because of a bad spring.
I didn't test any of them, but going strictly by feel and personal experience, mainspring and action spring seemed to be pretty normal, and the magazine spring was at least up to the task of getting the rounds into position to feed.

I'm not sure what sort of damage you mean unless it's that same old hoorah about slide to frame impact that I keep hearing about but have never seen.
 
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