.22 LR Federal ammo

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Does anybody have any experience with this ammo ?
Are the projectiles coated with anything or is it plain lead ?

I was looking to buy a few thousand rounds - primarily through a M&P 15-22 and my daughters P322.
CCI keeps going up in price and I would like to find an affordable alternative option

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I have some put away unopened. If you don’t get your answer I can go open a box and look at them.
 
Ive not tried the black packs (lead hollow point, but can vouch for excellent reliability on the similar priced Federal "Field and Range" 36gr version. Those are copper jacket hollow point, and usually goes for about .06/rd in store, and is my recent plinking inventory.
Aguila also makes great cheap ammo, and will keep me from going after thunderbolts, or buckets of other cheap crap.
My experience is with a 10/22 mixed use hunting, plinking and occasional mag dumps.
*edit had to double check and had the two mixed up. AutoMatch version is lead round nose, but i fully endorse those too.

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The only time I’ve had trouble with federal black pack ammo was when shooting for hours in pouring rain (the ammo was basically submerged for an extended period). Other than that it’s among the best bulk ammo I’ve used - reliable and accurate.
 
Federal is notorious for re-branding products. In other words, it's the same ammo with a different marketing name. Look for a small model number notation somewhere. Then you can compare reviews or comments.
For example, their standard 40gr. solid is model 510. I think I have 4 or more "different" Federal 40gr solids, but you'll find model 510 somewhere on the box. As mentioned, I believe the Federal 36gr HP is going to be a copper plated bullet. Also, remember that Federal and CCI are part of the same family.
 
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Been using the Champion 510 for so long it was Lightning back in the day. Always sure fire, works in every gun I've ever tried it in. Never found a reason to change. Its my go to for everything. Nice, slightly higher velocity than standard, plenty good accuracy for varmints/squirrels out to 75 yards. Used to shoot LR silhouette off hand with it in a set trigger winchester low wall. It always shoots as good as i can and really capable of much better. Just stocked up again from Outdoor limited....
 
Have you tried Target Sports USA? Just picked up a bunch of CCI Mini mag for $0.076 cents per round. Not in the $0.04-.05 range, but I thought it was still a pretty good price.
 
If you're satisfied with MOC plinking trash, buy north american fodder. If you want decent MOA fodder, buy euro made ammo.

Bill
 
BCR#1 said:
If you're satisfied with MOC plinking trash, buy north american fodder. If you want decent MOA fodder, buy euro made ammo.

Bill
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Well I figured I ought to learn myself somethin, so I googled MOC plinking trash, and danged if I didn't find, instead of a definition of MOC (minute of commie?):
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I use SK Semi Auto or Eley Contact in my Kidd/Feddersen build 10/22 for ABRA competition work. I don't use American made MOC trash for paper punching.

Bill
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So as the originator, or at least the most-quoting, I ask you, what is it? Minute of Critter? Commie? Cranky Old-Coot?
 
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Minute of can as that's all it's good for, shooting at cans and bottles.

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Well, after removing my shoes, to facilitate Higher Math, I do believe that a can shot repeatably at approx 250yds (assuming a standard profile 12oz aluminum) and beyond can be considered the result of MOA ammo.

I believe most would agree that MOC ammo might be considered Olympic worthy in the right context.

Therefore, and furthermore, MOC is a rather imprecise term when used to describe inherent accuracy. Even fer muricans.

But whadda I know? I can only count to 20 in public.

21 in private.
 
i avoid 22lr if it’s below 40 grains. almost every problematic ammo I’ve had was 36 grain. In rifles it’s fine but too many pistols want the heavier projectile and slower pressure curve to cycle well.
 
Back to @BrettB 's original question, it looks like you should be good to go. It looks like Federal's copper plated 36gr bullet. BUT, did you notice that in the picture @Bigdave0924 posted, the box is labeled 38gr?

The real answer is to try it in your own gun. .22 is fickle. One brand or model may work great in a particular gun and another may not and that can include "match" ammo. What you gain in "match" ammo is measureable consistency from round to round. While, with "bulk" ammo you'll run into more "outliers". And then "boxed" .22 is somewhere in between. If you find one that runs great in your gun and you want better consistency, you can sort the ammo based on rim thickness to cull out the outliers. That's been my experience anyway.

I think one of the keys to .22 auto's is keeping them fairly clean and well lubed. There's less oomph to cycle the action, so they're more sensitive to actions that are dragging or gummed from buildup.
 
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Back to @BrettB 's original question, it looks like you should be good to go. It looks like Federal's copper plated 36gr bullet. BUT, did you notice that in the picture @Bigdave0924 posted, the box is labeled 38gr?

The real answer is to try it in your own gun. .22 is fickle. One brand or model may work great in a particular gun and another may not and that can include "match" ammo. What you gain in "match" ammo is measureable consistency from round to round. While, with "bulk" ammo you'll run into more "outliers". And then "boxed" .22 is somewhere in between. If you find one that runs great in your gun and you want better consistency, you can sort the ammo based on rim thickness to cull out the outliers. That's been my experience anyway.

I think one of the keys to .22 auto's is keeping them fairly clean and well lubed. There's less oomph to cycle the action, so they're more sensitive to actions that are dragging or gummed from buildup.
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good catch I didn’t even notice the difference In bullet weight.
 
Bigdave0924 said:
good catch I didn’t even notice the difference In bullet weight.
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"Hey Bob!" "We had a production run error! The hollow point mold was off and we made all these millions 38gr loads. Do we scrap them all?" "Naw, just re-label the boxes. "
 
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