3 Durham shootings reported in less than 5 hours Monday night

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    Still work there but veeeeeeeery happy to not live there anymore.
     
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    Murder in Charlotte, Durham, and Raleigh is so common that the story only last one day before the next murder story takes its place. No daddy means angry poverty kid who devalues human life. We go on in life chalking metro area murder up to part of navigating big city madness.
     
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    Thugs gonna thug.
     
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    Durham has always been "sporty". It will only get worse under the current mayor, DA and COP.
     
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    Got a massage from SCLEOA that there were 5 LE involved shootings last week end in S.C. I had heard of none. The local news folks must just be ignoring these incidents??
     
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    Durham has Detroit envy
     
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    Probably a good thing the incidents didn't make the news, we don't need anymore rioting.
     
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    When we opened a transfer station in Durham several years ago (when I was with another company) the station manager and I were out picking up supplies. We saw a couple of Durham police officers so we stopped to say hello and tell them we were a new business in the area and opening up at this address and invited them to stop by any time.

    They looked at each other and then back at us and said "If y'all aren't armed I would suggest you get armed. We won't be coming out that way unless it's to pick up a body" We told them we were armed and I joked that we were going to set up a sniper on an overwatch tower. They then told me he better have a machine gun.
     
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    Meh, no worse here than most any other city of same size. 95% of all shootings in Durham happen in the same 15-square block area, and 98% are people who either know the other or has a beef with the other.

    Never, ever worried about living here, and I rarely feel unsafe.
     
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    Well...finish the story? Did you go belt fed?
     
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    I agree with this statement mostly. I was born there and you learn fairly quickly where to go or not go and if you stick to those guidelines, you are safe. My thing is after hearing about a close friends' mom robbed at gunpoint outside a bulls game, me having to show a gun to 3 homeless guys begging for change outside of an ABC, and then various friends having their cars and homes broken into, I'm just like whats the point? Imo taxes are too high to deal with that mess. Not to mention the property values are stupid right now. I saw a house in a terrible neighborhood that had been used as a flop house for addicts and homeless that was also lit on fire and the whole front was charred black with bullet holes for sale for 88,000$. Ive come to realize that i am too poor and peaceful to live in Durham anymore... Good riddance.
     
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    I assume beef=conflict, or perhaps they should have pork instead. As far as Durham goes, I'm not concerned with starting any conflict, it's being around others whom engage in an armed confrontation that lack the skill to execute said conflict appropriately.
     
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    You bring up good points. Now that the DBAP and DPAC/warehouse area has become respectful, no one gets tossed any more. But yeah, that used to happen from time to time.

    Homeless are a problem here, for sure. If you just tell them to eff off, they'll eff off.

    Spot on about insane property values. Homes downtown that sold for $125K 10 years ago are now selling for $300K. Gentrification is a real thing. We owned a rental house for a while on Hyde Park (crappy part of town), bought it for $60K, sold it for almost three times that price...in a crappy part of town. To get anything 'affordable' now you have to go into north Durham (we're in north Durham), and even the rural northern areas are getting crazy with property values.

    I like Durham 'OK', it's the only city I'd live in in NC. But I am a nurse and I can work anywhere; if it wasn't for my wife's family being here now, I'd pack up and head to Morehead City.
     
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    No, but we did consider it. That was a baaaaaad area. As long as you were out of there before night fall it was ok. We did have to put a heavy duty cage over the AC unit outside and put heavy duty metal doors on the office building though.
     
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    Yeah...I guess installing a crew served weapon system would add too much to the payroll...
     
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    At least the UNC and Duke ER docs get lots of practice.

    #silver lining
     
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    That they do. For every shooting you hear about in the news, two more go to the ED via "Home Boy EMS"....
     
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    I used to go to the Bull City every two weeks on business back 40 yrs ago. Bad vibes and bad experiences there 5 years ago or so (attempted car jacking). I dont go there anymore. We used to go to concerts in Durham and CH but not anymore. A buddy thought I was kidding when he told me he was driving us thru Durham and neither of us had a gun and I told him to let me out on the side of the road and I would call my wife to come get me. I wasn't. Another buddy used to be a surgical nurse at Duke and then the VA. Lots of gun shot wound stories. He told me one the other day about 2 fatboy brothers who go lit up by a guy with a Beretta 92 loaded with 115gr ball. Miraculously (or not) they both lived.
     
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    When my father moved us down here from Kentucky, he was offered two jobs. One in Durham and the other in Newark NJ. The first day in Durham for interviews he stayed at the econolodge on guess road. As he checked in the room, a guy with a knife came in behind him and robbed him. He was actual on the phone with my mom at the time. She heard everything and when the guy left she said Durham still sounded better than Newark. That was 39 years ago.
     
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    Glad I live in the middle of nowhere, with all these "big city" horror stories......dang!!
     
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    Like i said, you learn pretty quickly where to go and not to go;)...Bahama and Rougemont are like another world though. Beautiful and peaceful.... unless the crackheads make their way up there to steal things.
     
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    Not a real problem in Bahama, we all have land and shovels ;)
     
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    ^^^ this is why I love Bahama. I wish i could have moved there but the prices went up so fast, it passed me by financially:mad:. I grew up shooting out there. It was better than any indoor range i have ever visited.
     
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    Durham was the city that got me to start carrying everyday. 1993 I did a lot more rental property work than I do now. 1PM in the afternoon, sitting at the corner of Holloway and Alston waiting for a red light. Guy puts a pistol in the passenger side window -which was halfway down. I took off -hoping no one was coming to my left. He put a bullet hole in the back of my tool box on the back -but I think I messed his wrist up when I floored it, Saw him holding it in the rear view. Went to The old police station on Main St. -desk officer just kind of shrugged when I reported it. Nothing ever came of it. Couple years later I was at a call further down Holloway about 6 in the evening. Was going to my truck, officer pulled up and asked me did I have a weapon with me. I replied I did. His response was -" Good, because I can't protect your crazy ass down here by yourself" -I thanked him for his concern. Durham has always been bad.
     
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    Yes, northern Durham County is beautiful. Rented up around Rougemont many years ago, but by the time I could look for property it was pricy, the taxes were up, and the County Commission was starting to go progressive too.
     
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    Yup. My experiences with criminals here is what turned me into a gun owner.

    What @Chuckman said is true regarding most shootings being personal and in limited zones of the city, but there have been more than enough attacks on innocent victims to justify a much more aggressive arrest and prosecution of dirtbags. A big part of our problem is DAs and judges who don't penalize violent criminals adequately.
     
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    Durham of 93 and Durham of 2020 are two very different cities. In 93 a lot of downtown was still abandoned, with homeless, squatters, and thugs. Durham is safer than Asheboro, Asheville, Elizabeth City, Charlotte... Durham is no more "bad" than most any other city....

    @Mr. Bggs , for context, Newark's rate is 733/100K pop; Durham is 411/100K pop.
     
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    Absolutely....
     
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    Yea everytime my mom would see a crime, my dad would ask her if she still liked nc better than nj. She always replied with a YES![/QUOTE]

    You have great points, and a person with experience always beats a person with an opinion. If I was involved in a mugging my perspective would also be skewed. Durham definitely has its' warts, I just want to see it get a fair shake.
     
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    Yea everytime my mom would see a crime, my dad would ask her if she still liked nc better than nj. She always replied with a YES!
    As long as ive lived there, Alston ave and Holloway st were pretty rough. when the harley place was jumping, there were enough bikers to keep things halfway even so you could go in the daytime if you wanted to. At night, it was always a no go or go at your own risk type of place.
     
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    You have great points, and a person with experience always beats a person with an opinion. If I was involved in a mugging my perspective would also be skewed. Durham definitely has its' warts, I just want to see it get a fair shake.[/QUOTE]

    I dont mean to make it sound worse than it is. these incidents happened over a period of 40 years. None of the people ive named have actually been shot or killed. Durham has some good people in it and i do feel safe when im there, although that could be bc i spent a good 30+ years there before i got out so i got a few friends. Things like the DPAC have brought some big names to the city. If you would have told me dave chapelle was coming to durham in the 90s, i would have laughed you outta the building. Today its at least trying to be better and i can respect that much.
     
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    Remember Few Gardens? I was a young medic (1990ish), they issued us those big, heavy cumbersome body armor vests just for Few Gardens. That one apartment complex accounted for 50% of all shootings and stabbing in Durham. They tore it down...2003? But yeah, Alston/Holloway/Liberty/Elizabeth, and the area around DTCC/NCCU. Tough.
     
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    I will admit my experience of Durham is from years ago -I was plumbing supervisor for the city schools before I went into business for myself. I saw all I wanted. Now I just keep my distance.
     
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    I had to deliver a pizza there once... They surrounded the vehicle and wouldnt let me leave until i gave them all the cash i had on me. I told the supervisor and he said yea they do that every friday.... I told em i wasnt going back without a gun. I was 17. we eventually quit delivering to them due to all the robberies. Then they started coming and robbing the physical store, I quit after that... man, i havent heard the name few gardens in a really long time.
     
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    I Rented in Durham for 5 years in the early '80s. Crime was not too bad then but the infusion of crack , national gangs and liberal politicians has lead to the Durham of today. I moved to Bahama 35 years ago. Almost never go to town and don't really miss it.
     
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    any of you remember that welcome to durham documentary? Heres a quick look