.308 Reduced Recoil

[scmoose]

Has anyone ever messed with reloading .308 at a reduced recoil. I want to try my young son on my .308 but cant seem to find any reduced recoil factory rounds locally. Rifle is a Its a Ruger American Compact.

 

[ncav8tor]

If you don’t have one, a muzzle brake will reduce recoil significantly and doesn’t have to break the bank. I use a Jerry Miculek, they are available for around $40.


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[scmoose]

Id have to get the barrel threaded.

 

[ncav8tor]

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...nition-308-winchester-125-grain-sst-box-of-20

I’d still get the barrel threaded and roll your own. Would be a great father/son project.


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[ncav8tor]

reloading reduced recoil .308

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/308-lite-hunting-loads.3790855/

https://rifleshooter.com/2017/09/reduced-308-winchester-loads-with-trail-boss/


there are a bunch of links with info on this subject matter

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[Grits]

Do you reload?. If you do, Trail Boss and some cast bullets will be the ticket.

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[Ikarus1]

H4895 is the only powder I would trust in .308 to do really reduced loads. There's data on the Hodgdon site to do just that.
https://imrpowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/h4895-reduced-rifle-loads.pdf

 

[KnotRight]

Slip on a limbsaver. Works great on heavier loads in the 45-70

 

[11B CIB]

Semi auto or bolt?

I load 308 with trail boss and 150s for subs/low recoil

 

[Bailey Boat]

150 grain bullets or less and keep the velocity to 2500 or slightly less and you have reduced recoil.... Yet a rifle that will KILL......

 

[nbkky71]

Here's a reduced recoil load that I used to use when I shot my M1A competitively. It's an accurate 200yd load that recoils like an M1 carbine. It can reach out to 300yds, but you'll lose a lot to wind.

Speer 125gr TNT
41.5gr IMR4895
WLR primer
2.75" OAL

EDIT - As a matter of fact, I shot this group last weekend at PHA shooting a practice HP match using the above load. 10 rounds, 200yds prone, iron sights. NRA-SR target (3" x-ring)

 

[Combat Diver]

Try loading some 110 gr or 125gr PSP. .30 Carbine bullets a good start also.

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[Slacker]

Just curious, has the kid "learned" on a 22lr? I think its important to not go zero to center fire.

 

[Toprudder]

You don’t have to thread the barrel to mount a brake. Whitt Machine makes clamp-on brakes. Send them the measurements of your barrel and they make one to fit.

https://www.wittmachine.net/clamp-on-brakes/

 

[Spartan]

So, a couple of ways you can go-

1.) Try subsonic ammo. Nowadays, lots of companies are making good 308 Subsonic.
https://beckammunition.com/308-win-subsonic
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/308-winchester?ikw=subsonic
https://ebrammo.com/308-win
This was from a quick search. You could probably find better with a decent 20 min search.
I know that Cabelas used to sell it under the brand name Atomix.

2.) Clamp on muzzle brake
https://kahntrol.com/index.php/muzzle-brakes/clamp-on-muzzle-brakes/
https://www.wittmachine.net/
https://www.wittmachine.net/custom-clamp-on-muzzle-brake.html
Again, this was from another quick search...

3.) Use a heavier rifle

4.) The Patriot Ordnance Factory Revolution rifle
https://pof-usa.com/firearms/revolution/
https://www.cflgunandtactical.com/POF-USA-Revolution-s/129.htm

It is an AR platform that fires 308, but uses all the parts from an AR-15, including the bolt and BCG, which results in significantly reduced reciprocating mass, and significantly reduced recoil.

 

[Combat Diver]

You can use any starting load for a youth load with a lighter bullet.

These are from Hodgdon
.308 Youth Load using Win brass, Fed 210M primer
125 gr NOS BT H4895 38.0 grs vel 2592 fps (24") 31,600 CUP C.O.L 2.800"
130 gr HDY SSP H4895 37.0 grs vel 2542 fps (24") 30,800 CUP C.O.L 2.700"
135 gr SIE SP H4895 36.5 gr vel 2495 fps (24") 30,500 CUP C.O.L 2.700"

https://www.ballisticstudies.com/site/ballisticstudies/files/Hodgdon H4895 reduced load data.pdf

Nosler and Speer data

 

[scmoose]

Just curious, has the kid "learned" on a 22lr? I think its important to not go zero to center fire.

He shoots my 6.8 in an ar platform lights out. He shot a buddies 7-08 reduced recoil the other day and handled it fine.

 

[scmoose]

Thanks for the responses, now to pick up a set of dies and components and off we go