4 men with rifles rob man in Sams Club parking lot.

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draco88 said:
As an aside...wth? Forcing people out of the store and into the area where armed robbery is happening?
Not the brightest move, Sammy boy. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts somebody tries to sue Sams Club in the near future.
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I'm sure it made it a lot more difficult for the responding officers too.
 
Award for Stupidest Headline This Week:

Woman talks about being inside Sam’s Club in Winston-Salem as 4 men with rifles robbed a man in the parking lot

RYKM? Fox8's news story originated and revolved around talking to one scared shopper??

Deep investigative reporting, NOT.
 
Some time back, my wife had a recurring dream where I was accidentally shot while at a range. She said I was mad as hell as they loaded me into the back of a pickup for the trip to an ER. For a couple of years I wore concealed body armor to all events and competitions. It was a good exercise. It exposed some issues with gear fit and body armor getting in the way.
 
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georgel said:
Some time back, my wife had a recurring dream where I was accidentally shot while at a range. She said I was mad as hell as they loaded me into the back of a pickup for the trip to an ER. For a couple of years I wore concealed body armor to all events and competitions. It was a good exercise. It exposed some issues with gear fit and body armor getting in the way.
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That was just her subconscious thirsting for that Life Insurance..... :D
 
SPST said:
I've never seen a sign at Costco.
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https://www.costco.com/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10701&langId=-1&disclaimerCookieName=memberCookie&disclaimerItemNumber=35669&storeId=10301&krypto=ATcIV84CPXhuy+bfCvii6a2jhQT13jZ7zBS4YjtDwlQ48r4TTQ55EmMwHMLp6JvEfy7p2cf7E1jR4m01Od1cxZLaCQyEITeMt27xIbqRHGNoIWlY/FEvpccbfVWaJpqEs0rSMcatLFQvB4rTov3aUxuUD9jAnHE2TjVoc0nADFAyCjn0x05V6wZiGWjW2kzfFSq+SrA9+K4RwYvBzBz128+eKaqMLasQl5h5uRb0JQ2phJOXgaz3pLx4X3Vgr93srjPwHxXCECF3vPB+uOSjiQ==&ddkey=http:ManageShoppingCartCmd

This is in the “contract” you sign to become a member ... go down to General Policies

General Policies
  • Shirts and shoes must be worn inside the warehouse at all times.
  • Members are welcome to bring their children and up to two guests into the warehouse; howeveri members are responsible for their children and guests. Children should not be left unattended. Only Costco members may purchase items.
  • It is Costco's intent to provide a shopping environment free from all forms of harassment and discrimination for employees, applicants, independent contractors, members and suppliers. We prohibit all forms of harassment and discrimination.
  • Costco reserves the right to inspect any container, backpack, briefcase, etc., upon entering or leaving the warehouse.
  • To ensure that all members are correctly charged for the merchandise purchased, all receipts and merchandise will be inspected as you leave the warehouse.
  • Liquor and tobacco sales cannot be made to minors.
  • Costco policy prohibits firearms to be brought into the warehouse, except in the case of authorized law enforcement officers.
  • Animals are not permitted in Costco warehouses unless admission is required by applicable law.
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  • Costco policy prohibits firearms to be brought into the warehouse, except in the case of authorized law enforcement officers.
Since you agreed to the terms when you joined they don’t really need to post signs. Many do post but not all do.
 
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"The suspects had rifles and assaulted the victim, taking a black plastic bag with his wallet inside, according to a police press release."

Who carries their wallet inside a black plastic bag? ???
 
NCFubar said:
https://www.costco.com/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10701&langId=-1&disclaimerCookieName=memberCookie&disclaimerItemNumber=35669&storeId=10301&krypto=ATcIV84CPXhuy+bfCvii6a2jhQT13jZ7zBS4YjtDwlQ48r4TTQ55EmMwHMLp6JvEfy7p2cf7E1jR4m01Od1cxZLaCQyEITeMt27xIbqRHGNoIWlY/FEvpccbfVWaJpqEs0rSMcatLFQvB4rTov3aUxuUD9jAnHE2TjVoc0nADFAyCjn0x05V6wZiGWjW2kzfFSq+SrA9+K4RwYvBzBz128+eKaqMLasQl5h5uRb0JQ2phJOXgaz3pLx4X3Vgr93srjPwHxXCECF3vPB+uOSjiQ==&ddkey=http:ManageShoppingCartCmd

This is in the “contract” you sign to become a member ... go down to General Policies



  • Costco policy prohibits firearms to be brought into the warehouse, except in the case of authorized law enforcement officers.
Since you agreed to the terms when you joined they don’t really need to post signs. Many do post but not all do.
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Damn. I guess I'll have to quit carrying there?:confused:
 
NCFubar said:
https://www.costco.com/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10701&langId=-1&disclaimerCookieName=memberCookie&disclaimerItemNumber=35669&storeId=10301&krypto=ATcIV84CPXhuy+bfCvii6a2jhQT13jZ7zBS4YjtDwlQ48r4TTQ55EmMwHMLp6JvEfy7p2cf7E1jR4m01Od1cxZLaCQyEITeMt27xIbqRHGNoIWlY/FEvpccbfVWaJpqEs0rSMcatLFQvB4rTov3aUxuUD9jAnHE2TjVoc0nADFAyCjn0x05V6wZiGWjW2kzfFSq+SrA9+K4RwYvBzBz128+eKaqMLasQl5h5uRb0JQ2phJOXgaz3pLx4X3Vgr93srjPwHxXCECF3vPB+uOSjiQ==&ddkey=http:ManageShoppingCartCmd

This is in the “contract” you sign to become a member ... go down to General Policies



  • Costco policy prohibits firearms to be brought into the warehouse, except in the case of authorized law enforcement officers.
Since you agreed to the terms when you joined they don’t really need to post signs. Many do post but not all do.
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Never seen a sign.
A bullet point way down in a contact they know that nobody reads seems pretty much unenforceable beyond revoking a membership.

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Well, Costco is more than welcome to revoke my membership and refund my membership fee. Until then I may or may not be carrying whilst there. Also, I never signed a damn thing there. That was the wife's doing.
 
fishgutzy said:
Never seen a sign.
A bullet point way down in a contact they know that nobody reads seems pretty much unenforceable beyond revoking a membership.

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Yep, that was my thought until my membership expired an I didn’t renew. As long as the location is not posted you only are in breach of contract not violating NC statutes.
 
I'm not allowed in Costco or any of the membership warehouses, because I embarrass my wife every time we go. That's because I refuse to stop for the people at the door that want to look at my receipt and whatever's in my cart. Nope, not stopping. Walk right past them. Even more fun when there's 3-4 people waiting and I roll right past all of them. Had one of the old ladies start screaming for security one time. If they ever actually attempt to force me to stop, I'll roll it all over to customer service and get a refund.

So now I go to Costco to get propane, and that's it. Everything else is up to her. :D
 
BigWaylon said:
I'm not allowed in Costco or any of the membership warehouses, because I embarrass my wife every time we go. That's because I refuse to stop for the people at the door that want to look at my receipt and whatever's in my cart. Nope, not stopping. Walk right past them. Even more fun when there's 3-4 people waiting and I roll right past all of them. Had one of the old ladies start screaming for security one time. If they ever actually attempt to force me to stop, I'll roll it all over to customer service and get a refund.

So now I go to Costco to get propane, and that's it. Everything else is up to her. :D
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Yep, they save you $1 on every $100 you spend and they treat you like shoplifter. Screw them. I willingly pay other stores more that treat me like a law abiding human,
 
Here’s the scoop as I’ve heard...of course it’s from a friend who talked to an employee...so it could be true, may not.

The guy who was robbed had around $10k with him. He would drive down here, load up on cigarettes and drive them back up north to sell at a profit. Some ol smugglin action. Some folks found out about it and jacked him for the cash. So it wasn’t a random attack.


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B00ger said:
Here’s the scoop as I’ve heard...of course it’s from a friend who talked to an employee...so it could be true, may not.

The guy who was robbed had around $10k with him. He would drive down here, load up on cigarettes and drive them back up north to sell at a profit. Some ol smugglin action. Some folks found out about it and jacked him for the cash. So it wasn’t a random attack.


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So... It was the BATF. :D
 
NCFubar said:
Yep, that was my thought until my membership expired an I didn’t renew. As long as the location is not posted you only are in breach of contract not violating NC statutes.
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Nope. N.C. statute says the posting must be conspicuous. Conspicuous, which hasn’t had a legal challenge that I know of that would define it otherwise, generally mans in a manner designed to get attention. Putting a statement or a line in the agreement that nobody is going to read is most certainly the opposite of conspicuous.
 
B00ger said:
Here’s the scoop as I’ve heard...of course it’s from a friend who talked to an employee...so it could be true, may not.

The guy who was robbed had around $10k with him. He would drive down here, load up on cigarettes and drive them back up north to sell at a profit. Some ol smugglin action. Some folks found out about it and jacked him for the cash. So it wasn’t a random attack.


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Here's where you see the effects of prohibition and the rise of the black market. Nothing illegal about smokes - but the cost with the government involving itself creates an opportunity for a alternate source.

People will get the things they want regardless of silly words on paper, or hired muscle to enforce those words.
 
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I was not aware about Costco I rarely go there, but this is not enforceable with the NC statue I am sure. Even if it was wouldn’t it be a simple fine now? I think this is a good example why they changed the penalty for carrying in off limits places.
 
SPM said:
Here's where you see the effects of prohibition and the rise of the black market. Nothing illegal about smokes - but the cost with the government involving itself creates an opportunity for a alternate source.

People will get the things they want regardless of silly words on paper, or hired muscle to enforce those words.
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Yeah....

God forbid an enterprising citizen makes a profit on a legal substance. Meanwhile, .gov, while having no part in the manufacturing process, believe they have the authority to profit handsomely via regulation/taxes....at the point of a gun, if need be.

That's nothing but legalized armed robbery. "We can make money off of this, but it's verboten for you, citizen, to do the same. If you do and we catch you, we will lock you away."

There ain't a damned bit of difference between that and a gang "turf war".
 
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Cigarettes are no cheaper at Sam's than anywhere else so he must have been from waaaaay up north for it to be worth the trip/effort. And I seriously doubt that Sam's even had 10K worth of cigs in inventory, so the story doesn't exactly add up...
 
Bailey Boat said:
Cigarettes are no cheaper at Sam's than anywhere else so he must have been from waaaaay up north for it to be worth the trip/effort. And I seriously doubt that Sam's even had 10K worth of cigs in inventory, so the story doesn't exactly add up...
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I have a relative that lives in OH who used to use them before quitting. He used to visit and stock up because they were much cheaper here.
 
Bailey Boat said:
Cigarettes are no cheaper at Sam's than anywhere else so he must have been from waaaaay up north for it to be worth the trip/effort. And I seriously doubt that Sam's even had 10K worth of cigs in inventory, so the story doesn't exactly add up...
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Yeah...no...on all accounts...

As of April 2017

http://fairreporters.net/health/prices-of-cigarettes-by-state/

Average cost of a pack in NC: $5.45
Average cost of a pack in Conn: $9.52
Average cost in NY: $12.85

The victim was from Conn.

$4-7 difference on a per pack basis. $40-70 per carton.

$10,000 would only buy roughly 180-190 cartons of smokes. And nowhere in the story that was conveyed did they mention that he was purchasing them all from the same store. He drove from Connecticut...driving to a few different stores isn’t that big of a stretch.


So, like I said. It’s from the source of some who were there. Your “cost analysis” disagreement is what doesn’t add up.


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noway2 said:
I have a relative that lives in OH who used to use them before quitting. He used to visit and stock up because they were much cheaper here.
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Several years ago, cigs were over $10-$12 a pack in Mass.
 
I've been going to the WS Sam's for about a year .
I've seen people from time to time that seem to be out of place in the parking lot, more so than Costco that's not far away.
You've got to be aware of the people around you everywhere you go.
 
NCFubar said:
Reread what I wrote

... I said that it would only be a breach of contract as long as the location (and as we all know CostCo has many in many states) is not posted (and some are posted while others are not)

... not a violation of NC statutes.
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Sorry, you are correct. I misread what you typed. I missed the not.
 
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ES44AC said:
I've been going to the WS Sam's for about a year .
I've seen people from time to time that seem to be out of place in the parking lot, more so than Costco that's not far away.
You've got to be aware of the people around you everywhere you go.
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Parking lots are a fringe or transitional place and the bad things usually happen in those areas.
 
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