6.5 creedmoor suggestions

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I'm trying with the idea of letting my Grendel go for it's big brother. Would like to stay under $850 and have the most accurate rifle possible. Will target shoot mostly but wouldn't mind being able to take it hunting.

6.5 CM seems to be the most logical choice. I reload but the limited amount of factory ammo for Grendel makes me lean towards the Creed Moor.

Open to suggestions on other calibers as well.

Thanks.
 
Fortunately there are numerous options these days as many manufacturers chamber for the 6.5 Creedmoor. I'm partial to the Savage 12 LRP line, but it is certainly not a carry in the woods hunting rifle at 11lbs.

https://grabagun.com/savage-arms-19137-12lrp-6-5-creedmoor.html

I believe the above suggestion of the Bergara HMR may actually be one of the best choices out there for the money. It's a 700Rem clone action so all the aftermarket triggers and stocks should fit.

https://grabagun.com/bergara-b14s352-6-5cr-hmr-molded-chas.html


http://www.bergarausa.com/bergara_b-14_series_hmr_hunting_and_match_rifle.php
 
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The action is supposed to be smoother among other things. The stock also has an aluminum mini chassis molded in to add rigidity. I haven't seen any negatives about it other than the feed ramp doesn't allow for long OAL's but people are fixing this in 5-10 minutes by notching it with s dremel.
 
I am shooting a Savage 12 LRP with HS Precision Stock, Bergara B14 HMR and a MPA Bolt Chassis Stock all in 6.5 CM. I also have a 6.5 Grendel that I built. The CM’s are 1000+ yard guns and the Grendel has been shot or 800 yards. It may make 1000 with right load.
 
No experience with the Begara but my Tikka T3X CTR has been great! I don’t think you can get any smoother action out of the box from a non custom rifle. I’m pretty sure the Tikka is a few hundred cheaper than the Begara as well.
 
The bergara and savage LRP both have a lot of good things going for them. I lean more towards the savage for having a better trigger, thicker/longer barrel. I lean towards the Bergara because of the stock, and it'd be a better hunting rifle.. But I shoot paper more than I hunt, by far, which points me, again, at the savage. I'd have to swap the trigger in the HMR to get it as light as the savage so it'd cost me more.

Choices choices.
 
My pick would be the savage. I've seen 2 hmr lately that did not shoot very well with box ammo.

@Paladin1911 the grendel will make a 1000 for sure. I use to do it a lot with my ar. 27 gr of ar comp with 123 gr sceners. 11.3 mils at 1000.
 
Joker00 said:
My pick would be the savage. I've seen 2 hmr lately that did not shoot very well with box ammo.

@Paladin1911 the grendel will make a 1000 for sure. I use to do it a lot with my ar. 27 gr of ar comp with 123 gr sceners. 11.3 mils at 1000.
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Me personally, I would not shoot too much box ammo from a rifle that cost almost $1,000. But I understand what you were saying. I feel like the Savage is a better rifle but I found the bergara on sale for just a tad over $800 and that makes it very tempting. I just hate that the barrel isn't thicker
 
jmccracken1214 said:
Me personally, I would not shoot too much box ammo from a rifle that cost almost $1,000. But I understand what you were saying. I feel like the Savage is a better rifle but I found the bergara on sale for just a tad over $800 and that makes it very tempting. I just hate that the barrel isn't thicker
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Where did you find one in stock? Cheapest I've seen is $859 and out of stock everywhere
 
Considering that the Bergara puts you into the Rem 700 aftermarket pool of accessories (especially the use of AICS pattern magazines and upgraded triggers). Even the best Rifle Basix or Target Accu-trigger is never going to compete with a a Timney Calvin Elite or Huber Concepts trigger. It really should be a no brainer decision.

I have a Savage 12 LRP and have built three other rifles on that action. I really like my Savages, but they are limited on the upgrades AND resale value. If the Bergara had been available 5 years ago I would have gone down that road and never looked at a Savage. YMMV
 
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Considering that the Bergara puts you into the Rem 700 aftermarket pool of accessories (especially the use of AICS pattern magazines and upgraded triggers). Even the best Rifle Basix or Target Accu-trigger is never going to compete with a a Timney Calvin Elite or Huber Concepts trigger. It really should be a no brainer decision.

I have a Savage 12 LRP and have built three other rifles on that action. I really like my Savages, but they are limited on the upgrades AND resale value. If the Bergara had been available 5 years ago I would have gone down that road and never looked at a Savage. YMMV
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Even with the shorter, thinner barrel
 
jmccracken1214 said:
Even with the shorter, thinner barrel
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Absolutely! 22" is plenty long enough for 6.5 Creedmoor to achieve good velocity with either 140gr or 130gr loads. A "thinner barrel" is relative, a #5 contour is basically a light varmint contour, which is 0.700" at the muzzle when 26" - 28" in length. At 22" the muzzle will be around 0.760" which is nowhere near a pencil barrel and has plenty of shoulder to support a suppressor. The Bergara is not some dainty little pencil barreled rifle coming in at 9.25lbs

http://www.bergarausa.com/Bergara-barrels-Process.php

http://www.bergarausa.com/bergara_b-14_series_hmr_hunting_and_match_rifle.php

The Savage is basically a bull barrel ie minimal contour around 1" diameter at 26" length. The 12 LRP is 11lbs and with that 26" axle of a barrel is very front heavy and not much fun to carry in the woods hunting. You also can't use AICS pattern mags without adding CDI bottom metal ($250) or swapping to a chassis system. The Dark Eagle Custom 10 rounds mags are great and work flawless with the factory DBM, but are $100 each w/shipping.

http://www.bergarausa.com/Bergara-barrels-Process.php

Barrels are consumables on a rifle. You will burn through a Creedmoor barrel in around 2k rounds, thus it will likely need replaced during the Lifetime of you and the rifle. At that point instead of a Rem 700 barrel put on a pre-fit Criterion Rem-age for about $350. It uses the Rem factory threading, barrel lug, but adds a Savage style barrel nut.

I've shot and loved my Savage rifles for the past 6 years. My current build is a Rem-age on a factory Rem 700 SA and all my future builds will be as well. It takes the easy barrel/ caliber swap of a Savage, but gives you all the nice aftermarket options of the Rem 700 platform. I will never build a rifle on a Savage action ever again.
 
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