We can agree to disagree on that point, because as you stated he was “allowed” to shoot, and according to you, because someone is born different, or has limitations they should only be “allowed” what other people are willing to accommodate, and any other burden should fall on friends and family. With your outlook it would have been perfectly fine for the range to tell this gentleman, no, even though you have worked out a way to be able to compete, we don’t want you to, so go home. And as far as employment goes this is more typically the case, employers don’t want to hire someone that needs even the least bit special treatment, as a general rule. God help the poor handicapped soul stuck in chads world who doesn’t have a support group of peoe to care for and accommodate them, because as you said, nobody should be responsible for helping them but friends and family, essentially if someone else can’t do it screw them. The gentleman shooting was able to because he was supported by everyone there, but I hate to be the one to break this to you but the rest of the world is not that supportive, in fact in general people are incredibly self serving, as is evidence by you being all butthurt you had to install a ramp (0mg
) your absolute liberatarian ideals are no more practical than any other ideal, they don’t work when applied to every situation.
You’re right. I would have been fine had they not allowed him to shoot although I would have been one of the ones that would have advocated to allow him to. But if there was a legitimate reason to not allow it I would have conceded.
I’m really not sure why your reply has to be snarky with regards to my distaste over having to install a ramp. If you could give me a valid and legitimate reason as to why I had to pay more money, which raises my overhead, to install a device that will never have a use I’d be willing to listen.
On that note the original ADA stated simply that you could not take a persons disability into account during the hiring process as long as they could perform the work with reasonable accommodations.
Seems fair right? Hell I even personally agree with that mindset. So what are reasonable accommodations? Cleverly left ambiguous. How much additional money should a business have to spend to accommodate someone? $500 a year? $10,000 a year?
That’s where it started. Then because adding ramps and enlarging doorways and reconfiguring bathrooms all to be able to hire someone with a wheelchair, when there was a candidate just as good who can walk wasn’t reasonable they changed building codes to force us all to spend money we shouldn’t have to spend.
And I really don’t understand the argument against saying that the responsibility of taking care of a disabled person belongs to the friends and family of that person. I didn’t say that others can’t help or shouldn’t, if they want to, but being forced to help is another matter.
What’s actually kind of funny to me is the argument we are having is exactly along the lines of what mike Rowe was taking about in his response.
I am questioning the necessity for the government to cause undo cost and forcing companies to be subject to the undue burden of that, as well as substandard performance and you are accusing me of hating people who have disease, physical or mental disabilities.
My issue started with a group of people now wanting to claim to the world “Look at me you inconsiderate Bastard’s I am the face of the invisible disability”.
I used the internet to find several resources that listed what those were and claimed it was a crock. Because you have a child with one of the more legitimate “invisible disabilities” you have decided that I’m a callous individual when you know absolutely nothing about me and what I’ve done for people that are truly disabled, whether mentally or physically.
I even went a step further and tried approaching this from a different way and brought up the military lowering their physical standards just to be able to accept women.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree that lowering standards and forcing private companies to employ people or preventing them from firing them is a good thing.
