Anyone ordering a 1911 from CMP?

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Tomorrow is the the first day to send your order forms into CMP to go into the lottery to purchase a CMP 1911. Is anyone sending an order form in? I was considering sending one and if I am lucky enough to me selected see what grade I am being offered and make a choice from there. Honestly I cannot see buying anything below Field Grade and for $950 that is a stretch.

Thoughts?
 
It seems like they are overpriced for what they are but they will at least have some providence vs a lot of the mix masters sold on the open market. It is a shame that all of the "excellent" guns will go to the auction market where people will pay more than they are worth. I figure it will cost me $5 to put my name in the hat and I will make a choice if and when my name comes up.
 
I am not a collector and I have no need for an additional nostalgia piece, so I have no vested interest in the CMP 1911s.

I have a strong suspicion that this year's CMP 1911s will prove to be attractively priced in the current market, next year's batch will be heavily over-subscribed, and the next real opportunity to buy one will be in the third, or more probably fourth, year of sales.
 
Not me.
 
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At first I was in the "no way" camp, but now I'm thinking that I will throw in an application. GI 1911's aren't getting an cheaper and if you look at the value of all the CMP's offerings, they have done nothing but climb in value. Mine will be a shooter.

I'm sure that there will be a mad rush of folks that FedEx overnight their packages tomorrow too, all for naught. CMP is accepting packages until october.
 
At first I was in the "no way" camp, but now I'm thinking that I will throw in an application. GI 1911's aren't getting an cheaper and if you look at the value of all the CMP's offerings, they have done nothing but climb in value. Mine will be a shooter.

I'm sure that there will be a mad rush of folks that FedEx overnight their packages tomorrow too, all for naught. CMP is accepting packages until october.

Yup as long as it is post marked within the proper time frame it will be entered in the drawing the same as everyone else.
 
Was going to, but the way CMP has handled this has really turned me off. They have changed their minds so many times on the terms of sale. Never mind their background check policy.
 
At first I was in the "no way" camp, but now I'm thinking that I will throw in an application. GI 1911's aren't getting an cheaper and if you look at the value of all the CMP's offerings, they have done nothing but climb in value. Mine will be a shooter.

I'm sure that there will be a mad rush of folks that FedEx overnight their packages tomorrow too, all for naught. CMP is accepting packages until october.
I honestly don't see the point of these.
Main reason being is I've always heard the GI 1911's were so worn as to be useless.
I can see paying a premium price for, say, a Garand, which is a great classic rifle, and not being made anymore(outside of Fulton).

Since 1911's are still being made, and at much better quality(not worn) than these surplus, I don't really see the point.

P.S. - Of course, I'm a savage, I prefer the Ishapore 2a1 in .308 over the SMLE in .303. :p
 
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I honestly don't see the point of these.
Main reason being is I've always heard the GI 1911's were so worn as to be useless.
I can see paying a premium price for, say, a Garand, which is a great classic rifle, and not being made anymore(outside of Fulton).

Since 1911's are still being made, and at much better quality(not worn) than these surplus, I don't really see the point.

P.S. - Of course, I'm a savage, I prefer the Ishapore 2a1 in .308 over the SMLE in .303. :p

Unless I was a collector, or it was inherited from my grandpa, I agree - not much point to an old beater. A new Springfield GI model is cheaper and much better.
 
I honestly don't see the point of these.
Main reason being is I've always heard the GI 1911's were so worn as to be useless.
I can see paying a premium price for, say, a Garand, which is a great classic rifle, and not being made anymore(outside of Fulton).

Since 1911's are still being made, and at much better quality(not worn) than these surplus, I don't really see the point.

P.S. - Of course, I'm a savage, I prefer the Ishapore 2a1 in .308 over the SMLE in .303. :p

They are arsenal rebuilds but still are GI pistols that rattle when shaken. If I was even 10 years younger I'd be in line for nostalgia satisfaction but I'm divesting not adding firearms at this point in my life.
 
For me I am interested in purchasing one as a gift for my father in law who was a Marine and carried one in Vietnam. The providence of it being an actual USGI pistol is meaningful. Not as meaningful as it being the actual gun he carried but it is as close as I can manage.
 
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I'm not paying that much money for a well worn (and likely worn out) pistol. Count me out.
 
These are a total rip off. Why pay that much for a scratched up mixmaster when I can drop the same coin on a new Kimber? All you are paying for when you buy these is the CMP certificate.

Like the saying goes, "buy the gun, not the story".
 
Like the saying goes, "buy the gun, not the story".

There is a difference between a seller's questionable story and provenance proven by a serial number and "US Government Property" rollmark.

A new Springfield GI model is cheaper and much better.

Springfield has not made the GI model in a number of years; Springfield's current base model is the Mil-Spec, which isn't a mil-spec 1911.
 
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I carried one of their 1911's way back.
You could shake it and it sounded like a can of rocks.
I would doubt there are many that ain't just slap ass worn out, and those that ain't will go for a premium.
I did get used to carrying that can of rocks but I'm not paying as much as they are wanting for a nice one.
My Dad carried one in WWII, he said when he handed it back in at the end of the war he said it felt like he was missing part of his hip. It would be nice to have an older one in good shape, but they might be scarce.
If you go for it I hope you get a good one @wvsig
 
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Holding out for the CMP M9s in 30 years. :D

I assume you are being sarcastic but I have seriously considered getting a new Beretta just to have one because there are some good deals on new ones right now. I am not aware of anything that makes the M9 a better gun than the commercial models.
 
I assume you are being sarcastic but I have seriously considered getting a new Beretta just to have one because there are some good deals on new ones right now. I am not aware of anything that makes the M9 a better gun than the commercial models.


The coolness of having the USGI markings. I do hope the M9s get surplussed through CMP. I'll buy one.
 
There is a difference between a seller's questionable story and provenance proven by a serial number and "US Property" rollmark.

I still don't see how that makes a mix master pistol with rust/pitting worth $850 - $950. You could spend about the same money and get a match grade Kimber. The "provenance" is what you're paying for which is nothing more than part of the story. At those prices, you sure won't be paying for a nice finish, matching parts, or match grade.
 
It is a shame that all of the "excellent" guns will go to the auction market where people will pay more than they are worth.

But...... but.......
 
I'm going to be checking out a WWI era Colt 1911, and a WWII era Garand hopefully later today that an old friend has had forever.
 
I still don't see how that makes a mix master pistol with rust/pitting worth $850 - $950. You could spend about the same money and get a match grade Kimber. The "provenance" is what you're paying for which is nothing more than part of the story. At those prices, you sure won't be paying for a nice finish, matching parts, or match grade.

Whether you or I would prefer a pristine new gun is totally irrelevant. Gun auction sites clearly show many people are willing to pay $850 or more for an old and often ragged 1911 that certifiably belonged to the US military. After everyone else who really wants a military 1911 gets one, prices may drop to the $400 range where I might be interested in buying one as a novelty.
 
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If I had money to buy things for feels I'd put my name in the hat. Dad carried a 1911 when he was seeing the world, or at least SA, with 7th. He has several commercial 1911s, but it'd be cool to put an old GI gun in his hands. His reports of them are mixed, but it's very clear he preferred them to the M9s he qualed with his last few years, not that he hated on the M9.
 
Whether you or I would prefer a pristine new gun is totally irrelevant. Gun auction sites clearly show many people are willing to pay $850 or more for an old and often ragged 1911 that certifiably belonged to the US military. After everyone else who really wants a military 1911 gets one, prices may drop to the $400 range where I might be interested in buying one as a novelty.

I personally do not see the market dropping but who knows. The current market is high because of the limited availability of guns with providence. I agree that the comparison to a NIB 1911 clone or even a Colt is a false comparison. They are not the same thing. All poodles are dogs not all dogs are poodles.

Only 8,000 are hitting the market this year. 10,000 is the annual maximum. There is no guarantee how many will actually be sold. For those who assume the guns will be worn out and shot out these are pics of a Service Grade Ithaca. Clearly not perfect but also not a horrible looking gun. I see a lot of suspect USGI guns sold in classifieds and on GB for more. There is no guarantee what you will get but it cost me $.50 in postage to put my name into the hat. Most likely I will not have to make a choice but at least I have a chance to say no.

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